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#927069 - 04/06/10 07:31 AM Broken Stripe WFB Baby
IowaMisty Offline
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I just wanted to share about our new joey. He's a beautiful WFB baby with a broken stripe. I had never seen this before (other than on mosaics), but I did a search on GC & saw another post. I guess this happens sometimes with WFBs. He's our first WFB baby. This little guy's mom has a little break in her stripe but not as much as he does. I think it'd be really neat if someone wanted to breed him to a light WFB girl & see if the trait could be passed down. Has anyone tried intentionally breeding for WFB with broken stripe? I'd keep him but I don't have any room left in my house for more gliders. Anyway, check out this beauty:




Isn't he adorable?

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#927092 - 04/06/10 08:42 AM Re: Broken Stripe WFB Baby [Re: IowaMisty]
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He is the cutest!
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#927105 - 04/06/10 09:06 AM Re: Broken Stripe WFB Baby [Re: hpyhwn2003]
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#927113 - 04/06/10 09:21 AM Re: Broken Stripe WFB Baby [Re: ]
oakley Offline
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Wow, beautiful joey!

I have a Mosaic, Leu pair... their first joey was just a WF and he had a tiny little break in his stripe.... I thought he may be a MO at first, but his little hands were not white, so he was definitely a WF... It would be really cool if we could breed for this trait!

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#927118 - 04/06/10 09:37 AM Re: Broken Stripe WFB Baby [Re: oakley]
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He is gorgeous Misty. Congrats on the baby. I think it would be interesting to try and breed for that trait. Maybe you and Danielle should get together and see. I know she tends to have many WFB joeys.

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#927149 - 04/06/10 10:21 AM Re: Broken Stripe WFB Baby [Re: Lindsay]
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What a cutie. My last WFB joey had a broken stripe. He was a 3+ gen though. His parents don't have broken stripes on the other hand.


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#927161 - 04/06/10 10:30 AM Re: Broken Stripe WFB Baby [Re: ]
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beautiful joey, somebody is going to get lucky.

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#927257 - 04/06/10 01:17 PM Re: Broken Stripe WFB Baby [Re: hwh4ev]
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What is his lineage? The lineages of the others with broken stripes? I wonder if there is a connection in the family trees that this could be coming from.

I had one little girl here, Isis, who also has a broken stripe. She is a 3rd gen wfb.
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#927268 - 04/06/10 02:00 PM Re: Broken Stripe WFB Baby [Re: Dancing]
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My 2nd generation WFB has a broken stripe. So far non of her joeys have it. I'm pretty sure she's also a "super whiteface" dunno if that makes a difference or not.



(sorry not the best picture, but the best I could find! lol)

Her lineage is from Pele/ Iris, Cereal, and Old Yeller. dunno
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#927280 - 04/06/10 02:43 PM Re: Broken Stripe WFB Baby [Re: Glide_Bye_Lily]
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So far two out of three white faces from my pair have all had broken stripes as well. I thought it had something to do with the leucistic gene, but maybe not. dunno

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#927281 - 04/06/10 02:52 PM Re: Broken Stripe WFB Baby [Re: Glide_Bye_Lily]
IowaMisty Offline
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Thanks for sharing your pictures, everyone. This is my boy's lineage, Dancing, if you want to try & notice any similarities with other broken-striped gliders:
http://www.thepetglider.com/pedigree/modules/animal/pedigree.php?pedid=4211

The WFB is on the mother's side.

I definitely think it would be cool if someone wanted to start trying to breed for this trait. I could keep him & try for that if I retired & re-homed one of my other pairs (which we are considering doing)....but I don't have to be the one to do it.

Anyone, feel free to PM me if you have a really young female with a broken stripe & good lineage.

If anyone else has pics to share of their broken-stripe non-mosaic babies, feel free to post them here. I'm interested in seeing if there are many of these little guys out there.

Misty

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#927287 - 04/06/10 03:03 PM Re: Broken Stripe WFB Baby [Re: IowaMisty]
Lindsay Offline
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I wonder if you would get the same results if you had him paired with a higher gen WFB.


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#927289 - 04/06/10 03:14 PM Re: Broken Stripe WFB Baby [Re: Lindsay]
TheGliderPlayroom Offline
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I had a 3rd gen wf pair that produced several babies with broken stripes. One of the males went on to produce several male joeys with broken stripes, but it was oddly only the males that had it.

IMO it's from the lightness of the lighter wfs (not just the higher gens, but the general lighter color range), just like the lighter spots in the diamond that some wfs have. I think most of my joeys that had the broken stripe also had the light spots in the diamond.
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#927292 - 04/06/10 03:31 PM Re: Broken Stripe WFB Baby [Re: TheGliderPlayroom]
IowaMisty Offline
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I think it's from the lightness of the WFBs too. Although the mom to this joey has a small break (which doesn't seem to be as noticeable now as when she was younger). I definitely think it'd be cool to try to breed in the trait, until we had a few lines of joeys with just a diamond on their head & a big break in the stripe or a really light stripe. It seems like this could be happening enough that some breeders could get a few pairs from different lines of broken-striped WFBs breeding & see what happens.

Misty

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#927295 - 04/06/10 03:52 PM Re: Broken Stripe WFB Baby [Re: IowaMisty]
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Do you think you would need to pair two broken stripes together or a really light WFB and broken stripe?



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#927297 - 04/06/10 03:55 PM Re: Broken Stripe WFB Baby [Re: IowaMisty]
sketchyglider Offline
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i have a wfb female 2nd gen and a wf male 2nd 66% leu het and so far both of their joeys been wfb with broken stripes. they are part of a trio and the other female is a cg and she has had wfs but no broken stripe
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#927331 - 04/06/10 05:11 PM Re: Broken Stripe WFB Baby [Re: sketchyglider]
IowaMisty Offline
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Lindsay, I think if two broken stripes were paired together, that would speed up the process of breeding that trait into the line. Two light WFB broken stripes might be even better. It's kind of like if you want to breed a toy-sized dog. You'd just put two small dogs together, get a small puppy, breed that to another small puppy, & so on until the trait is several generations deep.

Our parent gliders are a 1st gen WFB girl with a little break in her stripe and a platinum-colored white mosaic who also has kind of a patch on his head & a break in the stripe. I was assuming that he got the trait from his mother though & it does sound like it typically comes from WFBs.

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#927345 - 04/06/10 06:14 PM Re: Broken Stripe WFB Baby [Re: IowaMisty]
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Her lineage is from Pele/ Iris, Cereal, and Old Yeller


Mine are also from this family tree.
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#927354 - 04/06/10 06:37 PM Re: Broken Stripe WFB Baby [Re: Dancing]
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Wow, that is a good size gap in the stripe. Beautiful baby!
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#927361 - 04/06/10 06:48 PM Re: Broken Stripe WFB Baby [Re: IowaMisty]
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Originally Posted By: IowaMisty
Our parent gliders are a 1st gen WFB girl with a little break in her stripe and a platinum-colored white mosaic who also has kind of a patch on his head & a break in the stripe. I was assuming that he got the trait from his mother though & it does sound like it typically comes from WFBs.


Although my mosaic that is not WF also has a small break in his stripe just below the diamond on his head. However his father was a WF leucistic, possible a trait shared by Mo's and WFB? dunno

ETA: It doesn't seem like the break is a 'mosaic' trait, there is no white patch-just a break.


(baby picture as he has powdered so much now you can't see the break)


Edited by Glide_Bye_Lily (04/06/10 06:51 PM)
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#927367 - 04/06/10 07:01 PM Re: Broken Stripe WFB Baby [Re: Glide_Bye_Lily]
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Here's the lineage on my guy who has the broken stripe. His sister doesn't have one though.



http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u146/threewingedfury/CarolinaPedigree.jpg


Edited by threewingedfury (04/06/10 07:02 PM)

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#927459 - 04/06/10 10:45 PM Re: Broken Stripe WFB Baby [Re: ]
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I think it'd definitely be a neat idea to pair 2 broken-striped WFs together and see if they produce joeys with even larger broken stripes. Maybe it could get so big the stripe would almost disappear, lol!

I have a couple broken-striped WFs. One of my joeys, Alexander, has one of the biggest broken stripes here:

As a wee joey


More recent


His mother and grandmother have broken stripes as well.

Mother


Grandmother
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#927461 - 04/06/10 10:49 PM Re: Broken Stripe WFB Baby [Re: Guerita135]
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Perhaps it's just me but, if the glider has a mosaic parent, we can't count them as wfb with broken stripes. There is no way to rule out the mosaic as being a contributing factor.
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#927471 - 04/06/10 11:26 PM Re: Broken Stripe WFB Baby [Re: Dancing]
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I agree we can't rule out that mosaic could be contributing. The break in the strop seems to be in the same spot that a lot of mosaics have a white patch/break. However, I think we've had a few people mention broken-stripe babies without a mosaic parent. Nicole, are you volunteering to try breeding for this trait? You got any young females with broken stripes? wink

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#927484 - 04/07/10 12:20 AM Re: Broken Stripe WFB Baby [Re: IowaMisty]
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This is Lavender, one of my current joeys. She is a wf 25% leu het. Dad is a grey 50% het, and mom is a wf 50% het. So even a 1st generation can have both the broken stripe and the spots in the diamond.


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#927485 - 04/07/10 12:21 AM Re: Broken Stripe WFB Baby [Re: IowaMisty]
Glide_Bye_Lily Offline
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Has anyone actually ever seen a WF with a broken stripe from mosaic parents actually prove out though? I mean with JUST a broken stripe- no white hands and feet?

I've seen people advertise those as 'possible' mosaics, but I've never seen anyone prove them out...

I would be interested to know if there was a case though!

IMO I don't believe the broken stripe has really anything to do with the mosaic gene. Unless there is white involved. Don't we characterize mosaic as any glider with random patches of WHITE? Where's the white in a broken stripe?

I believe they are different factors completely. JMO of course! smile
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#927486 - 04/07/10 12:21 AM Re: Broken Stripe WFB Baby [Re: IowaMisty]
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Lol! Sorry IowaMisty, but I'm going to have to decline. tounge I've got too much on my plate at the moment.
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#927487 - 04/07/10 12:25 AM Re: Broken Stripe WFB Baby [Re: Guerita135]
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I hear you, Nicole!

Glide_Bye_Lily, I agree with what you're saying. The mosaics don't need to prove out. The gene works like WFB. There is no het. Either they have white patches of fur or they don't.

Misty

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#927491 - 04/07/10 12:32 AM Re: Broken Stripe WFB Baby [Re: IowaMisty]
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I have had some broken stripe joeys born here of Nala(CG) and Simba(WFB) son of Sir Lance! Love the joeys all colors!!
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