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#975278 - 07/14/10 06:36 PM Producing Sterile Lines
Guerita135 Offline
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I just wanted to send out a friendly reminder to breeders in the glider community to please double check your mosaics' lineages to ensure that they really are from non-sterile lines.

Just within the last couple weeks I've seen about 10 joeys listed as being from "non-sterile" lines, when, in fact, they are not! And in every single case the breeders were completely unaware of their gliders being from sterile lines! shock

9 times out of 10 those gliders are from Priscilla and in some cases they are older gliders from Stacie Jolley.

Stacie used to have her babies from Goliath(a sterile-line male mosaic who has proven to not be sterile) as "non-sterile". However, when one of her customers got flack because of it and was having a hard time selling her joey as "non-sterile", then both Stacie and Priscilla were contacted and it was decided to call the "proven" sterile lines "Producing Sterile Lines" rather then "non-sterile". So, people who got Stacie's babies from Goliath BEFORE the change are often unaware that their babies are from a sterile line.

It was done to prevent confusion so that customers were informed.

Lately I've seen sterile-line mosaics paired with cremino lines, platinum lines, albino lines, leu lines, and even TRUELLY non-sterile lines! cry

So, please, everyone double-check the lineages on your babies and if you're not sure if they're from sterile lines, then feel free to post their lineages here and we can figure it out!

Also, be sure to check the FULL lineage ALLLLL the way back, not just the first couple generations.
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#975283 - 07/14/10 06:46 PM Re: Producing Sterile Lines [Re: Guerita135]
ValkyrieMome Offline
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I think not everyone knows what the "sterile lines" are. I know I don't.

If my breeder said it was "non-sterile lines" - I'd have to believe them!
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#975299 - 07/14/10 07:30 PM Re: Producing Sterile Lines [Re: ValkyrieMome]
JamieInWA
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Yeah, I wish we could have them listed somewhere. Aside from asking someone with more experience than me, I wouldn't know how to find out.

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#975304 - 07/14/10 07:44 PM Re: Producing Sterile Lines [Re: ]
tjlong Offline
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There was a thread on 5/08/10 started by NGS about Mosaic lines. I don't know how to copy the thread link. Sorry. Jamie, you could do it!

Guerita135 gave a wealth of information on that thread! It is definitely worth a read. smile


Edited by tjlong (07/14/10 07:48 PM)
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#975307 - 07/14/10 07:46 PM Re: Producing Sterile Lines [Re: tjlong]
Glide_Bye_Lily Offline
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Also a reminder to people to check your glider's lineage even if it's FROM mosaic lines but is not itself a mosaic. If you're planning on breeding that is. smile
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#975308 - 07/14/10 07:48 PM Re: Producing Sterile Lines [Re: tjlong]
Glide_Bye_Lily Offline
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#975310 - 07/14/10 07:49 PM Re: Producing Sterile Lines [Re: Glide_Bye_Lily]
tjlong Offline
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#975311 - 07/14/10 07:49 PM Re: Producing Sterile Lines [Re: Glide_Bye_Lily]
JamieInWA
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Thanks. I was just going to post that.

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#975315 - 07/14/10 08:17 PM Re: Producing Sterile Lines [Re: ]
Kayla Offline
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What are some of the names of the gliders from the sterile line?
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#975320 - 07/14/10 08:26 PM Re: Producing Sterile Lines [Re: Kayla]
Glide_Bye_Lily Offline
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There are a few- you can find a list of names in the thread I posted. This is a quote from Tyler in that thread. I hope it helps:

Originally Posted By: gliderboy4life
Tilly is a sterile line, champ is not sterile. Tilly was paired with another male, a WF named casino and produced sterility.

There are many different sterile mosaic lines, there is Sally, Ms. Leu, Lollie, Tilly, Helena, Heidi, Bianca and maybe a few others.

Priscilla took on only about 8 mosaics when she got them from Helen. It was believed that to produce mosaics there were hets. So that is how the sterility came about from continuous inbreeding.

Champ most likely came from the mosaic line, several joeys from the original mosaics appeared champagne.

I know Mother white was wild caught. She didn't live long. I think when she came in, a few others did-some of which might have been the ones listed above....not sure though. Odds are they are all related. What are the odds of catching such a different color in the wild and them not being related.

Anyways, we have snow white who is producing, this is most likely b/c it hadn't been inbred to the point of sterility.

A majority of mikes stuff came from helens line, so again related to the other mosaics.

There is NO record of any of the breedings done before priscilla got them. The records were according to helen eaten by her praire dogs. I doubt she kept records of the breedings anyways as it was not common or known to do so many years ago.

So there is my knowledge based on the 2 years working at TPG.

Take it or leave it,... but thats what i know!!!


Edited by Glide_Bye_Lily (07/14/10 08:30 PM)
Edit Reason: add info
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#975327 - 07/14/10 08:32 PM Re: Producing Sterile Lines [Re: Glide_Bye_Lily]
Kayla Offline
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I read the post above last night, and it got kind of confusing after i read a post on leus and I am already horrible at names.. Here is the lineage of a boy I might be getting, I wrote out his whole family tree today so i could see everything without having to click around alot. Although theres probably an easier way to do it lol

http://www.thepetglider.com/pedigree/modules/animal/pedigree.php?pedid=5653
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Remy, Bolt & Luna
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#975328 - 07/14/10 08:39 PM Re: Producing Sterile Lines [Re: Kayla]
Glide_Bye_Lily Offline
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I don't see any sterility in your glider's lineage. thumb

Lynsie knows what she's talking about with mosaics. She'd let you know if there was sterility in the line. smile


Edited by Glide_Bye_Lily (07/14/10 08:39 PM)
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#975329 - 07/14/10 08:40 PM Re: Producing Sterile Lines [Re: Kayla]
ValkyrieMome Offline
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That doesn't really answer it for me!

We are supposed to check the "whole lineage, not just a few generations."

Are the names Tyler listed the only Sterile lines?

So if none of these gliders "Sally, Ms. Leu, Lollie, Tilly, Helena, Heidi, Bianca" is in my glider's lineage, he isn't from sterile lines?
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and very many great gliders!

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#975330 - 07/14/10 08:50 PM Re: Producing Sterile Lines [Re: ValkyrieMome]
Glide_Bye_Lily Offline
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Originally Posted By: ValkyrieMome
That doesn't really answer it for me!
I'm sorry- I really don't know what you're looking for then.

We are supposed to check the "whole lineage, not just a few generations."

Are the names Tyler listed the only Sterile lines?
I believe they are the known sterile lines.

So if none of these gliders "Sally, Ms. Leu, Lollie, Tilly, Helena, Heidi, Bianca" is in my glider's lineage, he isn't from sterile lines?
In theory no- he isn't from sterile lines. Unless there are others that are not known.
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#975331 - 07/14/10 08:52 PM Re: Producing Sterile Lines [Re: Glide_Bye_Lily]
B19 Offline
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Thanks for all the great info guys! It is very helpful!!
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#975340 - 07/14/10 09:02 PM Re: Producing Sterile Lines [Re: B19]
Kayla Offline
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I figured she would let me know, and since i wrote out the whole thing today i didnt see any of those names... Thanks for the help!
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Remy, Bolt & Luna
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#975346 - 07/14/10 09:15 PM Re: Producing Sterile Lines [Re: Kayla]
wildlifeangel Offline
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Registered: 11/25/08
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I was told that Preston was from NON-sterile lines. But when Nicole and I had a conversation, it was found that because he had Kat in his lineage, he WAS from sterile lines. I was very upset when I found out, as he is only a couple generations out from sterility. The breeder did NOT tell me he was from sterile lines. So, at this point I'm not sure WHAT to do with my joeys!

Preston is producing, his dad Kale produced, and Freddy produced... this is the only link to sterile lines. It looks Kat is the only link to sterility... but there is no sterility in him, his dad, or his grandpa... help?!


Edited by wildlifeangel (07/14/10 09:22 PM)
Edit Reason: added info
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#975352 - 07/14/10 09:32 PM Re: Producing Sterile Lines [Re: wildlifeangel]
ValkyrieMome Offline
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Loc: Denton, TX
But Kat is not in that list from Tyler?

So - there are others?

This is really frustrating! Why isn't there a complete list somewhere of the sterile lines!
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Mom to Valhalla; 6 cats; 1 macaw; 2 hedgehogs;
and very many great gliders!

(plus the 2 skin kids)
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#975358 - 07/14/10 09:41 PM Re: Producing Sterile Lines [Re: ValkyrieMome]
Glide_Bye_Lily Offline
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Kat is the granddaughter of Tilly.

As was said, you have to look at the entire lineage- not just a few generations.
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#975364 - 07/14/10 09:53 PM Re: Producing Sterile Lines [Re: wildlifeangel]
Glide_Bye_Lily Offline
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Originally Posted By: wildlifeangel
I was told that Preston was from NON-sterile lines. But when Nicole and I had a conversation, it was found that because he had Kat in his lineage, he WAS from sterile lines. I was very upset when I found out, as he is only a couple generations out from sterility. The breeder did NOT tell me he was from sterile lines. So, at this point I'm not sure WHAT to do with my joeys!

Preston is producing, his dad Kale produced, and Freddy produced... this is the only link to sterile lines. It looks Kat is the only link to sterility... but there is no sterility in him, his dad, or his grandpa... help?!


Even though they are producing you still have to make it known that the joeys are from sterile lines. You can sell them under the title of "producing sterile lines" if you choose to. Generally speaking it is thought that if a male glider from sterile lines produces there is no longer a possibility of sterility being passed on to his offspring. Sterility is thought to be an X linked trait- similar to color blindness or hemophilia in humans. This is why the females can pass it on but are generally not sterile themselves.

I'm very sorry this happened. It may be possible the breeder didn't know their gliders were from sterile lines or thought that since their male was producing, they no longer had to make buyers aware of the sterility.


Edited by Glide_Bye_Lily (07/14/10 09:54 PM)
Edit Reason: oops
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#975369 - 07/14/10 09:59 PM Re: Producing Sterile Lines [Re: Glide_Bye_Lily]
wildlifeangel Offline
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What is the opinion of breeders on producing sterile lines? (Look up PLL, those will be my joeys).

I want to know opinions on what breeders would do with this trio... because I had hoped to breed the joeys eventually...
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#975371 - 07/14/10 10:01 PM Re: Producing Sterile Lines [Re: wildlifeangel]
Lynsie Offline
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Nadine, I have a mosaic out of that same line and Priscilla did the same thing to me. She told me she was from a non-sterile line when in fact it is a producing sterile line. So far all the males out of that line have produced but I still make sure that my buyers are aware of the joeys lineage before they decide to buy one of those joeys.
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#975374 - 07/14/10 10:14 PM Re: Producing Sterile Lines [Re: Lynsie]
gliderboy4life Offline
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To my knowledge those are the only sterile lines. Some popular names to look for that may be farther up in your lineage would be:

Ms. Kitty
Kit and Kat
Heather
Sierra
Juliet
Ribbon

ummm... its been so long since I've worked with the gliders. As I think of more I can add them to the list.

As for breeding gliders from "producing" sterile lines. I feel it is ok, but would not cross them back to other gliders of color. Breeding prosucing sterile gliders is a personal opinion you would have to make. I personally have seen no reason not to.
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#975390 - 07/14/10 10:34 PM Re: Producing Sterile Lines [Re: gliderboy4life]
Guerita135 Offline
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Alden, if you post your lineage here then we could all take a look at it for you.

Some lineages are very trickey, especially if they're listed in The Pet Glider Database because if a relative doesn't have a name or is unknown then it's simply left blank, so you have to be very careful and always double-check it with a few breeders who are familiar with the original lines.

EXAMPLE: I bought a glider from sterile lines, but this is what her lineage looks like in the Pet Glider Database- http://www.thepetglider.com/pedigree/modules/animal/pedigree.php?pedid=1067

As you can see, at a glance it would seem that she's from the non-sterile mosaic line. However, if you look closely you'll see that her grandfather, Poncho, who is from Mac and Cheese, is a gray/100% Leu het and NOT a mosaic. The grandmother is the mosaic and since she had no name then she wasn't listed.

However, here's what the lineage looks like from the breeder: http://justforfuzzies.com/pedigrees/Nadine_pedi.html

As you can see, she's actually from sterile lines.

So, if you are at all unsure about a lineage or see lots of blanks then do not hesitate to get a second, or third, or FORTH opinion!

Thanks for that list Tyler! I'm not good with names and can never remember all the sterile-line gliders.

KAYLA- your boy is from a non-sterile line. wink
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#975395 - 07/14/10 10:39 PM Re: Producing Sterile Lines [Re: Guerita135]
Lynsie Offline
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Yep Kayla, both Envy & Dante have absolutely NO sterility in thier lines.
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#975396 - 07/14/10 10:41 PM Re: Producing Sterile Lines [Re: Guerita135]
Guerita135 Offline
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Since the sterility came about as a result of inbreeding, then it could be something recessive and if a joey from sterile lines(whether they are producing or not) were to be bred with another glider that has the same recessive gene then it could, once again, bring out the sterility.

So if someone is going to breed a glider from sterile lines then it must be done carefully, which is why it's important to be informed. Whether a sterile-line glider is producing or not, breeders need to tell their customers that those joeys are originally from sterile lines.

It sad enough seeing gorgeous little mosaics being born that are sterile. I would hate to start seeing sterile creminos, leus, platinums, etc... cry
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#975454 - 07/15/10 12:52 AM Re: Producing Sterile Lines [Re: Guerita135]
wildlifeangel Offline
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Registered: 11/25/08
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To clarify, I indicated Kat because she was the one, grandchild of Tilly. Nicole told me to look for Kat because she was visible in the first glance of Preston's pedigree.

His mom was from Leu lines and he has a small % het, so originally I was hoping to be able to breed his joeys to the joeys from the trio I am getting next month... but that won't be happening now!

How should that effect price? For an identical glider that is from sterile lines vs one from non-sterile lines? I just want to have competitive prices and still be fair because they can't breed to other colored lines...

also, does anyone know of a contract clause that you can forbid them from breeding the joeys TO other colors?
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#975746 - 07/15/10 03:16 PM Re: Producing Sterile Lines [Re: wildlifeangel]
Guerita135 Offline
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I seriously need to stop looking at gliders' lineages. It's not good for my health. :\

Today I was glancing around at some more mosaic joeys' lines that are in the classifieds and saw one that is a sterile-line mo from leu lines paired with a leu het. cry

Personally, I don't agree with breeding the sterile lines, but if you ARE going to breed them, please be very careful when choosing a mate and, as Tyler has already said, do NOT cross them with other colored lines!

Speaking of which...Lynsie, I noticed that you have a sterile-line mosaic paired with a leucistic. frown Did you realize that Doodle is from a sterile mosaic line? His grandma is Kat.
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#975768 - 07/15/10 04:40 PM Re: Producing Sterile Lines [Re: Guerita135]
Lynsie Offline
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Nicole, that is the glider I was referring to. Doodle was sold to KDR, then to me and we were told that she was Non sterile when in fact she was from a producing sterile line. KDR already had her paired with a leu, I had them together for awhile here before I was made aware of her lineage and I did not feel like splitting them up, nor was I willing to neuter a pair that I just paid $5000 for. All the males from this line, including Doodles joeys have been able to produce. I do make sure that all buyers are aware of this lineage before they purchase one of thier joeys. So far they have only had 7 joeys.
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#976005 - 07/15/10 11:39 PM Re: Producing Sterile Lines [Re: Lynsie]
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Nicole- poncho's mate is unknown but she's known to be a mosaic from sterile lines? With so many unknown breeders/owners in that family tree, how is one to know what is what with that line?
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