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#981774 - 07/26/10 09:15 PM Please pray for Gracie...
LabNGliderMom Offline
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June 28th she had to go to the vet for a UTI- she took her antibiotics and seemed to be better...

Then Sunday morning I get up and hear hissing and I think, oh no- not again... I pull Gracie out of her pouch and see that her cloaca is swollen and she has been over grooming between there and the base of her tail... (not SMing - she wasn't attacking it or having issues leaving it alone - she had just licked it raw trying to clean it since she had some feces stuck in the fur there). But being the worry wart that I am, I stuck her in an e-collar and headed for the e-vet over in St. Augustine.

Unfortunately, all they did was a culture- they didn't even want to touch her really- the only e-vet there who ever handles gliders was on vacation. They did get on the phone with the exotic/glider vets at UF in Gainesville, though... and let me talk to the vet while they emailed her pictures of the area. SHE felt it could be stones or some other kind of "blockage like constipation"... but she told me straight up that if I had a regular glider vet, I should wait and take her to him Monday morning... the charge for getting a vet into the UF office after hours is $200.00 - AND they MAKE you pay 75% of "the high end" of "whatever they feel the bill even COULD be" and that is UP FRONT. She said they do NOT do payment plans and that they WOULD turn her away EVEN at the risk of her health if I did not pay the 75% up front... and she told me the range for what she "thought" this was might be $500.00 to $1200.00 so if I had a regular vet I should keep an eye on Gracie overnight and take her in to see her regular vet then. She also said to keep her in the e-collar and to coat the area with sugar, which she said would "draw out the swelling". All of which is what I did.

Of course, I am a HUGE softy- and Gracie is my glider who HATES being confined... a zipped bonding pouch makes her flip out... so you can imagine what the e-collar did to her... of course I spent half the night on the floor beside the hospital cage so she could be out of the collar to eat and drink- she did eat some and drink some but not much- and she did not even try to groom the area, either. Regardless, her cloaca continued to swell and feel "hard" and there was a large "area" showing up in the center of it that was very dark in color like a blood clot.

This morning I was in the vets office as soon as they opened and of course the vet was running late <sigh> but once he arrived, he looked at the whole thing- the swollen cloaca which he commented was "obviously not the vaginitis he envisioned when the office called him upon my arrival"- the darkened clot-looking center of the cloaca which he said "could be a tumor possibly" or that "may be due to impaction"- the over groomed area which upon closer inspection is really "raw meat with no skin left on it" in a spot about half the size of a dime- and her weight which is only 60 grams but she has always been my petitest glider (though the weight and this whole thing started to remind me vaguely of Andi's issue with Shy last year).

The first thing he said was that he wanted to NOT do surgery if it could be helped... he felt the risk was just to high... he palpated the area and almost immediately it was like she totally relaxed- there was an "ahhhhh" look on her face- and then urine flowed out of her cloaca like it was a water faucet. We decided that aside from the "possible tumor" which he'd rather look at after we got her healthier, this was "likely" a stone that had passed when he palpated... they gave her Metacam for inflamation & pain and Baytril for infection and Silver Sulfadine ointment for the raw area and Gracie took a nap and slept the whole way home. Since then she drinks like there is no tomorrow every time she gets up and she is eating more and accepting her favorite treats again.

HOWEVER

This evening she is swelling again and though her vet showed me how to do the palpating thing he did this morning, either I am not doing it right or it is just nor working. Granted it is NOT as swollen as it was this morning... but it IS swelling again and that dark spot is showing again when after the vet this morning the swelling subsided so much I couldn't even see it anymore. So... another long night in store and another trip to the vet in the morning... please pray for my little Gracie girl- she's the first female glider I ever got- mate to my first ever glider, Scout- and she means the world to me... I'm going to take a nap while my husband is awake enough to let me know if she is in distress....


Edited by LabNGliderMom (07/26/10 09:15 PM)
Edit Reason: spelling
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#981782 - 07/26/10 09:30 PM Re: Please pray for Gracie... [Re: LabNGliderMom]
saturngirl Offline
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Hugs and prayers going out to you and Gracie hug2
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#981786 - 07/26/10 09:36 PM Re: Please pray for Gracie... [Re: saturngirl]
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Our Gracie is having problems right now too! We will keep yours in our thoughts & prayers.

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#981789 - 07/26/10 09:42 PM Re: Please pray for Gracie... [Re: ]
Feather Offline
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Julie, I will keep you and your baby in my thoughts and prayers.
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#981802 - 07/26/10 10:13 PM Re: Please pray for Gracie... [Re: Feather]
suggiemom1980 Offline
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Sending prayers your way!
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#981832 - 07/26/10 10:44 PM Re: Please pray for Gracie... [Re: LabNGliderMom]
ozzi Offline
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hug2 Many Prayers going out for you and Gracie Julie hug2
angel angel angel
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You have not lived until you have done something for someone who can never repay you.....Unknown

Rest in Peace our little sweet friends that have crossed over the "Rainbow Bridge".
I miss you gangel Boo-Boo, Lucy, BJ, and Fivel gangel

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#981841 - 07/26/10 11:06 PM Re: Please pray for Gracie... [Re: ozzi]
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My prayers are with you and Gracie! Please keep us updated.
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#981862 - 07/26/10 11:47 PM Re: Please pray for Gracie... [Re: GliderGrrrL]
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Julie, your poor little girl. My best thoughts and wishes coming your way for her.
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#981865 - 07/26/10 11:55 PM Re: Please pray for Gracie... [Re: Dancing]
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Sending prayers and hugs for you and Gracie hug2
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#981872 - 07/27/10 12:00 AM Re: Please pray for Gracie... [Re: 6102]
LSardou Offline
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Sending tons of hugs and prayers to you and Gracie. hug2

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#981882 - 07/27/10 12:13 AM Re: Please pray for Gracie... [Re: LSardou]
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hug2 Hope things get better soon and they figure this out!
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#981915 - 07/27/10 02:07 AM Re: Please pray for Gracie... [Re: SugareeErin]
the gliders angel Offline
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i just got thru a problem with my 5 yr old who is also small. she was so close to death dehydtated and needed to be force fed for over 2 wks. and now she is running around in her wheel so all things are possible. there was no time for tests the vet gave her a shot of baytril and then i gave it orally she was severly dehydrated too but now she is better. still weak but eating on her own and playing. i would do a fecal bacterial culture and sensitivity and a culture of the fluid that you said came out. this will tell u alot. no surgery it will do her in. my curly had a uti last yr. trimethoprim sulfa worked best for her. you can do an xray but i dont think its a tumor most likely the blood clot is from her chewing the area. pray for her healing thats what i did with my girl i layed hands on her and prayed for a miracle and it happened. if u would of saw her she was a goner and basically came back from near death. its amazing. see u at the sgga look for me gliders angel

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#981922 - 07/27/10 02:37 AM Re: Please pray for Gracie... [Re: the gliders angel]
Gizmogirl Offline
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I am sending lots of prayers to you and Gracie. hug2 hug2
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#982008 - 07/27/10 09:32 AM Re: Please pray for Gracie... [Re: Gizmogirl]
Srlb Offline
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I just got off the phone with Julie.

She lost Gracie this morning at the vets office.

She has asked me to come in here to let you all know as soon as she is able, she will be along to fill you in on what all the vet said and what was done.

GodSpeed Lil Gracie, Glide free.

Jules, you know Im here for you. I am so so sorry my friend.
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#982010 - 07/27/10 09:34 AM Re: Please pray for Gracie... [Re: Srlb]
Gizmogirl Offline
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I am so sorry! cry Please tell Julie I am thinking of her! hug2
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#982013 - 07/27/10 09:38 AM Re: Please pray for Gracie... [Re: Srlb]
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Oh no! frown I'm so sorry to hear that. Glide free, little one.
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#982015 - 07/27/10 09:41 AM Re: Please pray for Gracie... [Re: MissSarah]
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Oh Julie, I'm so sorry to hear about Gracie...thinking of you - glide free, beautiful girl.
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#982018 - 07/27/10 09:42 AM Re: Please pray for Gracie... [Re: MissSarah]
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Julie,

I am so sorry to hear this news. May you find comfort in your memories of little Gracie.

Glide Free Little Gracie :rbridge:
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#982027 - 07/27/10 10:15 AM Re: Please pray for Gracie... [Re: Feather]
DirtyPaws Offline
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Oh gosh Julie, I feel so terrible. I'm so sorry. I know you did everything you could. hug2
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#982038 - 07/27/10 10:50 AM Re: Please pray for Gracie... [Re: DirtyPaws]
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Julie, I'm so very sorry about Gracie, I was praying for her.
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#982043 - 07/27/10 10:57 AM Re: Please pray for Gracie... [Re: glidrz5]
saturngirl Offline
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I'm so sorry Julie.
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1 ~silly puppy Darci~

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#982087 - 07/27/10 12:27 PM Re: Please pray for Gracie... [Re: Srlb]
ozzi Offline
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cry cry cry Heartbreaking, Heartbreaking, Heartbreaking cry cry cry
I am so sorry Julie hug2
Glide free Gracie gangel :rbridge: gangel
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You have not lived until you have done something for someone who can never repay you.....Unknown

Rest in Peace our little sweet friends that have crossed over the "Rainbow Bridge".
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#982118 - 07/27/10 01:48 PM Re: Please pray for Gracie... [Re: ozzi]
suggiemom1980 Offline
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Oh gosh, I hate to hear this. I am so sorry, Julie. hug2 cry You did everything you could for Gracie. She knew she was loved!

Glide free, beautiful Gracie :rbridge: over the Rainbow Bridge.

You will be forever loved, forever missed, forever remembered......
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SmallWorldSuggies

"The greater the challenge, the sweeter the reward"

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#982131 - 07/27/10 02:23 PM Re: Please pray for Gracie... [Re: suggiemom1980]
hpyhwn2003 Offline
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Sorry for your loss Julie. Glide free Gracie.
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#982146 - 07/27/10 02:41 PM Re: Please pray for Gracie... [Re: SugareeErin]
6102 Offline
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Loc: NJ
Glide free Gracie :rbridge:

Hugs for you Julie hug2 I am sorry for your loss.
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#982182 - 07/27/10 03:17 PM Re: Please pray for Gracie... [Re: 6102]
LabNGliderMom Offline
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I sped to the vet’s office with Gracie this morning. My vet was actually on his way to his other office a good distance from my regular one when he got the call that Gracie and I were on our way and he did a u-ey and headed straight for us, arriving at the office shortly after Gracie and I did. I wish there had been more that we could have done for her, but there was not. Gracie torsioned and prolapsed her bladder, which blocked off her cloaca entirely, causing her to rupture her colon. I held her as she crossed the bridge and after composing myself managed to participate in the necropsy.

Gracie’s vet feels that given the extensive size of her duodenum and kidneys, this may have been caused by tumors or stones… the urinalysis he completed after draining her swollen bladder found blood and protein in the urine, a high PH, an almost normal specific gravity, and no stones he felt were large enough to have caused the original blockage. Her bladder being torsioned as well as prolapsed was causing it to become necrotic — and it was so damaged that even in death he could not get it back completely in place. In addition, sepsis was setting in, as her abdominal cavity was full of feces from the ruptured colon.

It is very hard to talk about this right now- but since it might help another glider for everyone to know what Gracie went through, I am posting it. I am also posting a link to a few photos I took during this ordeal- WARNING: These photots are graphic images of glider trauma

Thank you Peggy, for letting everyone know about Gracie for me- and for being there at a moment’s notice to encourage a friend in tears- repeatedly. Your friendship is impossible to place a value on.

Thank you, Tammy, for taking the time to talk with me and express your sadness over my loss of Gracie. I love you, too, girl.

Thank you Pat, for your message– you are correct: there is no worse pain than the pain of loss. And yes- it is a welcoming thought that he was there waiting for her as she crossed the bridge.

Thank you, Paula, for expressing your condolences and then refusing to allow me to wallow in my grief. All the details we discussed were helpfully distracting during a very heart wrenching time for me today.

Thank you to everyone who prayed for Gracie and who mourns her loss with my family. We are so sad that she is gone but so happy that she is at peace and no longer in excruciating pain.

Glide free, my first girl — we miss you and love you so very much.

A couple pics of Gracie in better days:



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Edited by LabNGliderMom (07/27/10 03:17 PM)
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#982191 - 07/27/10 03:25 PM Re: Please pray for Gracie... [Re: LabNGliderMom]
ozzi Offline
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upset upset More Hug's Julie upset upset
hug2 gangel hug2
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Rest in Peace our little sweet friends that have crossed over the "Rainbow Bridge".
I miss you gangel Boo-Boo, Lucy, BJ, and Fivel gangel

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#982197 - 07/27/10 03:31 PM Re: Please pray for Gracie... [Re: ozzi]
Gizmogirl Offline
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hug2 hug2 :sorry:
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#982231 - 07/27/10 04:34 PM Re: Please pray for Gracie... [Re: Gizmogirl]
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Julie, my heart is breaking for you - my tears are for you, Gracie and the rest of your babies - I'm so sorry. hug2
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#982258 - 07/27/10 05:22 PM Re: Please pray for Gracie... [Re: DCMuffin]
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Registered: 09/26/08
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Loc: Wichita Falls, Texas
I'm just bawling ~ been thinking of you and little Gracie all day.

Thank you so much for picking yourself up and posting all the details. I know it must be very hard right now. I'll be back to go over it again when it's all not so new.

I'm thinking it might be nice to have Gracie's ordeal over on Val's site for reference when you're able.

hug2
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