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Review for Pocket Pets cage
by Ladymagyver. 05/18/19 09:37 PM
Lineaged Gliders to Back Yard Breeders
by Claralice. 05/17/19 10:23 PM
Pics and Videos of my Gliders
by Ladymagyver. 05/17/19 08:41 AM
Hirarchy has been Overthrown
by Xeno. 05/17/19 02:13 AM
A Special Day For Special Ladies
by KarenE. 05/12/19 11:01 AM
Custom Cage Liners Machine Wash & Dry
by gr8pots. 05/12/19 07:24 AM
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by alicat. 05/11/19 06:36 PM
One of my girls is failing
by KarenE. 05/11/19 10:14 AM
One of my girls is failing
by Feather. 05/10/19 11:13 PM
Dominance or Mating?
by Xeno. 05/09/19 03:17 PM
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Housing & Accessories
Yesterday at 01:37 AM
I can understand your point. They have a bad rap on diet and bonding.

The diet has changed and improved.

I agree that something as simple as a cage they have made for years should be the last thing that has quality issues. I've never bought one new, but I have been where someone had them and I looked it over really well. The hog rings are the only issue I've seen that would concern me. I'm looking to buy a used one the size you have as a hospital cage.

I bought a Martin's cage that had to be put together with hog rings. The pliers they supplied were junk and had to go buy a good pair so I could close them properly. Their cages are powder coated and no sharp edges on the wire. It was cut, filed and then powder coated. No bare wire.

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Housing & Accessories
05/18/19 06:23 PM
The bigger point I'd also like to make here is Pocket Pets is censoring negative reviews.
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Breeding & Babies
05/18/19 02:23 AM
Thanks Dawn, I was only concerned as someone that is learning but prior to this site thought I understood. Breeding is so complex and I would never (now that I know better) do anything to risk mine-or gliders in general. However, not everyone out there gets it and I agree with others; probably just dont care about "improving" glider health.
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Breeding & Babies
05/17/19 01:34 PM
Originally Posted by Claralice
Okay, I am hearing experienced and reputable breeders describe why BYB should not occur. I wonder, how many were/are like me. I have no plan to breed my four but could have gotten lineage on my two Caramel males (now neutered) but not my two Leucistic females. I didn't and dont intend to breed. I researched quite a bit. In my research it did address lineage vaguely. However, there was not the kind of information that I stumbled upon on this site.
After reading this discussion, it feels elitist-and I know this is not what this discussion is about. However, I just have to wonder out loud, how many not yet members and surfers etc read this and say to themselves this matters not. There are probably many like me that saw these cute, tiny animals and dreamed of seeing the tiny cute babies. I would have been one of those "hobby" BYB as I didn't have enough knowledge to be anything else. Now, no way would I breed and risk my girls-with or without lineage.


So, back yard breeding without lineage not knowing the gliders blood lines can easily lead to unknown inbreeding.

Most reputable breeders are working on better temperment, health, and colors. If I'm not mistaken, this post is mostly targeting glider mills who breed for profit, and not to improve the bloodlines, health or temperment of their gliders.

Backyard breeder are those who breed their unlineaged gliders to cash in and recoup their initial expense of buying the gliders in the first place.

The glider owners who have bred their gliders to go through the "Joey experience" which we have had several members do to build a colony, usually separate and neuter all males after their first successful set of joeys. There may already be a couple of joeys "in the oven" so to speak, and it happens.

I hope I explained that correctly...

I hope that helps...
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Glider Talk and Traveling
05/17/19 12:41 PM
Love the pics!!!!

Your babies are so adorable!!!!
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Bonding & Relations
05/17/19 06:13 AM
Originally Posted by Ladymagyver
Originally Posted by Xeno
I would definitely watch a sitcom or drama about your gliders.



It is tempting!!!

Fiona and Stewie had a slapping contest last night...

Fiona got her mealworm and ran off. Stewie got his next and just sat in place. Fiona came back for another mealie and decided she wanted Stewie's. So she slapped his face and he swallowed the rest of his mealie whole all the while I'm scolding Fiona because we don't steal. Stewie reared back and slapped Fiona a few times. This just went back and forth. Hubby and I are standing their slack jawed... Finally I came to my senses enough to holler "Here!, here!!! Fiona come get your mealie" . She grabbed it and scampered off happy as can be. Stewie waited his turn and sat there and ate peacefully.

As Fiona approached again, I reminded her "We don't steal food"... And she turned on the charm crawling all sassy like, tail straight in the air. Came and got her last mealie and pranced off... shakehead. My gray hairs are getting thicker. Lol!


My gliders never seem to grasp the concept that they are all going to get a treat. Gotta grab it out of the mouth of whoever got it first.

Video of my favorite food fight where their fighting meant no one got a treat. Did they learn? Of course not.....

https://i.imgur.com/Bacju2P.mp4
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Glider Talk and Traveling
05/17/19 04:21 AM
Awe, they are adorable!
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Breeding & Babies
05/17/19 04:18 AM
Okay, I am hearing experienced and reputable breeders describe why BYB should not occur. I wonder, how many were/are like me. I have no plan to breed my four but could have gotten lineage on my two Caramel males (now neutered) but not my two Leucistic females. I didn't and dont intend to breed. I researched quite a bit. In my research it did address lineage vaguely. However, there was not the kind of information that I stumbled upon on this site.
After reading this discussion, it feels elitist-and I know this is not what this discussion is about. However, I just have to wonder out loud, how many not yet members and surfers etc read this and say to themselves this matters not. There are probably many like me that saw these cute, tiny animals and dreamed of seeing the tiny cute babies. I would have been one of those "hobby" BYB as I didn't have enough knowledge to be anything else. Now, no way would I breed and risk my girls-with or without lineage.
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Bonding & Relations
05/17/19 03:48 AM
OMG! My guys and gals are now peaceful! I gave up on getting one cage for all. They spend their evenings chatting each other up but no way will they cohabitate-at least one of them anyway! Your guys are hilarious or you need to be a comedy writer! smile
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Bonding & Relations
05/16/19 11:02 PM
:roflmao2:
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Bonding & Relations
05/16/19 09:10 PM
Originally Posted by Xeno
I would definitely watch a sitcom or drama about your gliders.



It is tempting!!!

Fiona and Stewie had a slapping contest last night...

Fiona got her mealworm and ran off. Stewie got his next and just sat in place. Fiona came back for another mealie and decided she wanted Stewie's. So she slapped his face and he swallowed the rest of his mealie whole all the while I'm scolding Fiona because we don't steal. Stewie reared back and slapped Fiona a few times. This just went back and forth. Hubby and I are standing their slack jawed... Finally I came to my senses enough to holler "Here!, here!!! Fiona come get your mealie" . She grabbed it and scampered off happy as can be. Stewie waited his turn and sat there and ate peacefully.

As Fiona approached again, I reminded her "We don't steal food"... And she turned on the charm crawling all sassy like, tail straight in the air. Came and got her last mealie and pranced off... shakehead. My gray hairs are getting thicker. Lol!
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Bonding & Relations
05/16/19 05:06 PM
:yes:
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Bonding & Relations
05/16/19 03:05 PM
I would definitely watch a sitcom or drama about your gliders.
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Bonding & Relations
05/16/19 01:19 PM
Ah, the young and the restless saga continues rofl
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Bonding & Relations
05/16/19 04:09 AM
Well, Dot didn't go down without a few fights. In 2 nights, I woke up 3 times to them balling up. The third night, Dot was in heat and the extra push had her pretty much back in charge .

Stewie in the meantime decided to move in with Fiona... Fiona seems to be fine with Stewie

So far so good! We are on night 3

So now Dot is a queen of her cage... So far she seems to be doing well.. She doesn't seem to miss either glider. She's getting her nails clipped tomorrow. We'll see how receptive she is to being handled... In the past, it wasn't good.
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Glider Talk and Traveling
05/16/19 12:25 AM
Cute!!!!
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Glider Talk and Traveling
05/15/19 05:30 AM
Just realized I have been asking for a lot of advice and never shared pictures or videos in return. I am here to correct that and hopefully this will be a fitting payback for all the help you have given me.

The first sugar glider I saw was Elric when he popped out of the pouch he arrived in. He was so much smaller back then:

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The beginning of my successful intro when I put Elric in with the girls. By the time I got Dobby to see if he would be friends too most of them had escaped. In the end though everyone got along:

[img]https://i.imgur.com/rQTlmlv.mp4[/img]

Dobby confused at what was going on when everyone else was having fun while he was napping:

[Linked Image]

Here are all four of them in a rare group shot . They all popped up because I was distributing treats:

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Elric being trained to jump to me.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/eyb5IUU.mp4[/img]

The boys both calling dibs on a treat so naturally they dropped it:

[img]https://i.imgur.com/Bacju2P.mp4[/img]

Arwen working on her long jump to my arm:

[img]https://i.imgur.com/wy4rrS7.mp4[/img]

And Eilonwy using me as a tree while her sister jumps from my shoulder to the ground:

[img]https://i.imgur.com/uLEgDZP.mp4[/img]

And Elric, who always finds a way to climb under my shirt:

[Linked Image]
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