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PA legal 2012 (I may have discovered something!)
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01/27/12 11:33 PM
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I just found this article on craigslist about exotic wildlife in Pennsylvania. In the section that defines exotic wildlife they also include animals that are not considered exotic wildlife such as birds, ferrets, guinea pigs, rabbits, rats, mice, etc. BUT also in this section they have sugar gliders and hedgehogs. Does that mean they are now no longer considered exotic wildlife? Here's the link along with some quotes. The term shall not be construed to include any member of the 26 class Aves (birds), any member of the families Equidae (horses, 27 [censored] and zebras), Camelidae (camels, alpacas and llamas), 28 Cervidae (deer, moose and elk), Bovidae (wild cattle and spiral- 29 horned antelopes), Muridae (rats and mice), Chinchillidae 30 (chinchillas and viscachas), Leporidae (rabbits and hares), 20110HB1398PN1967 - 2 - 1 Erinaceidae (hedgehogs and moonrats), Petauridae (gliders and 2 striped possums) or any member of the species Mustela furo 3 (domestic ferrets) or Cavia porcellus (domestic guinea pigs). I need people that are more experienced with these things to read this for me and tell me what they think. This really could be our proof they are legal! http://e-lobbyist.com/gaits/text/304585 [url=http://e-lobbyist.com/gaits/text/304585][/url]
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Re: PA legal 2012 (I may have discovered something!)
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01/27/12 11:44 PM
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I don't believe the issue was because sugargliders were considered "wildlife". The problem is they say you can own them *IF* you get a permit. However they are no longer issuing any permits. Therefore they are illegal to own.
Not to mention, IMO craigslist is not a reliable reference. I would not trust them.
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Re: PA legal 2012 (I may have discovered something!)
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01/27/12 11:46 PM
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But the only reason you needed a permit in the first place was because they are exotic wildlife and you needed an exotic possession permit which in PA is almost impossible to get.
And it's not a craigslist ad, someone posted a link to this house bill on there.
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Re: PA legal 2012 (I may have discovered something!)
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01/28/12 12:55 AM
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The best thing would be to contact the officials in PA and/or an attorney and ask them. We can only give our best guess, same as you.
620-704-9109 Judge not until you have walked in their shoes and lived their lives. What you see online is only part of the story.
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Re: PA legal 2012 (I may have discovered something!)
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01/28/12 01:03 AM
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Looking over that more. That is a "bill" put before the state. It doesn't state IF it was approved or not. IF it was approved, then they no longer consider gliders "exotic wildlife".
My hubby works for an attorney and he said he'll ask if we are reading that correctly. But he can't do that until Monday.
620-704-9109 Judge not until you have walked in their shoes and lived their lives. What you see online is only part of the story.
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Re: PA legal 2012 (I may have discovered something!)
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01/28/12 01:07 AM
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Well in that case I found this... [url=http://www.mygov365.com/legislation/view/id/4db9214c49e51b5f79a80d00/tab/overview/][/url] Which says: "Last Action: Third consideration and final passage on Jan 24, 2012"
So what do you think ?
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Re: PA legal 2012 (I may have discovered something!)
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01/28/12 10:02 AM
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I would contact one of the legislators authoring this bill and see if it was passed. HOUSE BILL No. 1398 Session of 2011
INTRODUCED BY STABACK, CALTAGIRONE, COHEN, J. EVANS, HARKINS, HORNAMAN, JOSEPHS, KAVULICH, W. KELLER, KIRKLAND, MURT, O'NEILL, K. SMITH, TAYLOR, CARROLL AND MANN, APRIL 27, 2011
AS AMENDED ON SECOND CONSIDERATION, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, JANUARY 23, 2012
AN ACT Amending Title 34 (Game) of the Pennsylvania consolidated
Statutes, in special licenses and permits, further providing for definitions and for exotic wildlife possession permits.
The General Assembly of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania hereby enacts as follows: Section 1. The definitions of "exotic wildlife" and "exotic wildlife dealer" in section 2961 of Title 34 of the Pennsylvania Consolidated Statutes are amended to read: § 2961. Definitions. The following words and phrases when used in this subchapter shall have the meanings given to them in this section unless the context clearly indicates otherwise: * * * "Exotic wildlife." The phrase includes[, but is not limited to, all bears, coyotes, lions, tigers, leopards, jaguars, cheetahs, cougars, wolves and any crossbreed of these animals which have similar characteristics in appearance or features.
The definition is applicable whether or not the birds or animals were bred or reared in captivity or imported from another state or nation.] all nonindigenous animals and the following, regardless of whether the animals are bred or reared in captivity or imported from another state or nation:
(1) All members of the order Primates (nonhuman rimates). (2) All members of the family Ursidae (bears). (3) All members of the species: (i) Canis latrans (coyotes). (ii) Canis lupus (gray wolves). (iii) Canis rufus (red wolves). (iv) Felis rufus (bobcat). (v) Panthera leo (lions). (vi) Panthera tigris (tigers). (vii) Panthera pardus (leopards). (viii) Panthera unica (snow leopards). (ix) Neofelis nebulosa (clouded leopard). (x) Panthera onca (jaguars). (xi) Acinonyx jubatus (cheetahs). (xii) Felis concolor (cougars). (xiii) Any crossbreed of the animals specified in this paragraph which have similar characteristics in appearance or features.
[/color]The term shall not be construed to include any member of the class Aves (birds), any member of the families Equidae (horses, [censored] and zebras), Camelidae (camels, alpacas and llamas), Cervidae (deer, moose and elk), Bovidae (wild cattle and spiral-horned antelopes), Muridae (rats and mice), Chinchillidae (chinchillas and viscachas), Leporidae (rabbits and hares), Erinaceidae (hedgehogs and moonrats), Petauridae (gliders and striped possums) or any member of the species Mustela furo (domestic ferrets) or Cavia porcellus (domestic guinea pigs).[color:#000066] The blue portion of this quote is animals that are going to be exempted after this bill is passed. Thereby making it legal to have sugar gliders as pets without a permit. I was told by Adam at the SGGA last year that this legislation was in the works in Pennsylvania and to watch for it to be passed.
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Re: PA legal 2012 (I may have discovered something!)
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Dancing, did you talk to your husband about what he thought? Has anyone contacted someone to find out if this Bill passed and made gliders legal. Seems like someone said they ARE legal as of 60 days after 1/24/2012 and it has been spreading over facebook. I would hate to see people rush out and get gliders because they saw someone said on FB that they were legal. I would like more proof..
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Re: PA legal 2012 (I may have discovered something!)
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Erin Bentley, Taybee, Loki & Jinx!  Jenna & Suge. We had a wonderful 13 years together! I miss you always and will never forget you.
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Re: PA legal 2012 (I may have discovered something!)
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09/08/12 09:16 AM
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Has anyone checked on this? When I looked at the board on it, it looked like it passed through all three criterion? (Only curious because my mom lives in PA). She has started asking about my fuzzbutts =]
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Re: PA legal 2012 (I may have discovered something!)
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Has anyone checked on this? When I looked at the board on it, it looked like it passed through all three criterion? (Only curious because my mom lives in PA). She has started asking about my fuzzbutts =] It's been stalled since May. It got through the House okay, but it hasn't budged since it got to the Senate 4 months ago. And since they only have until November to get it through the Senate and approved by the governor, I personally am highly doubtful it will go through. It's been in the Senate since January, and it's gone exactly nowhere.
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Re: PA legal 2012 (I may have discovered something!)
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