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Re: Dubia Roaches
[Re: Monstermash]
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02/03/12 04:27 PM
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sitkasmom
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Some people do feed them. I wont because of the afloxin toxin issue.  I just stick with mealies... Hope that helps  Have FUN!!! 
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Re: Dubia Roaches
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02/03/12 07:24 PM
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ValkyrieMome
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I just set up some breeders. They are AWESOME for gliders - better protein than mealworms and also less chitin.
Alden "Animals can communicate quite well. And they do. And generally speaking, they are ignored." Alice Walker
Mom to Valhalla; 6 cats; 1 macaw; 2 hedgehogs; and very many great gliders!
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Re: Dubia Roaches
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02/03/12 09:44 PM
02/03/12 09:44 PM
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nancy1202
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Anyone feeding these to their gliders?
Reptile show in town this weekend and I thought about picking up some along with mealworms. Have fun at the KRE show! I thought about going, but don't think I will make it this month. It is perfectly safe to feed tropical roaches to your gliders. As Alden mentioned, they are healthier and have less exoskeleton than mealworms or crickets. You just have to get past the "ick" factor, but your gliders will thank you for it! I wont because of the afloxin toxin issue.  I just stick with mealies... Actually, the aflatoxin issue can occur if a corn-based bedding is used to raise mealworms or crickets. It is a mold. There is no bedding for dubias, so very little risk. 
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Jackson/Izzie, Lukas/Leilah, Mizuki/Elektra, Oliver/Ava, Ramon/Paloma, Charming/Snow Rest of the menagerie: dogs, cats, corn snake, bearded dragon
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Re: Dubia Roaches
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02/03/12 09:59 PM
02/03/12 09:59 PM
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yiyo
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Does anyone know a reputable, natural place to buy them from?
Alyssa
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Re: Dubia Roaches
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02/03/12 11:55 PM
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nancy1202
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A local reptile show would be the best place. Small hobbyists tend to take great care of their feeder insects.
~Nancy~ http://www.derbycitygliders.com
Jackson/Izzie, Lukas/Leilah, Mizuki/Elektra, Oliver/Ava, Ramon/Paloma, Charming/Snow Rest of the menagerie: dogs, cats, corn snake, bearded dragon
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Re: Dubia Roaches
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02/04/12 01:51 AM
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Lisha
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As far as ordering them theres this guy rob or dubideli.com is his website & he had the best prices I've ever seen, it's like $14 for 150 and thats shipped, at a pet shop I recently saw them for $1.50.EACH! And he's been very patient and prompt in answering all my questions reassuring me if I ever work up the ovaries to order- they won't take over the house and kill me. Hes got good reviews on some bearded dragon website forum thingy
Lisha, Mercedes  , & Porsche  & Bentley
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Re: Dubia Roaches
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02/04/12 01:54 AM
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Lisha
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I actually bought a few at the store to see if I'd die & so far so good,.they're really not SO bad... No jumping no climbing no biting mo no noise no living out of their container, low maintenance no smell & evidently, very healthy
Lisha, Mercedes  , & Porsche  & Bentley
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Re: Dubia Roaches
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02/04/12 02:11 AM
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Meg_n_Von
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I've given my guy, Pip, one before and he LOVED it! But there is NO way I'm allowing roaches in the house, lol.
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Re: Dubia Roaches
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02/04/12 03:15 AM
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sugarlope
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I wont because of the afloxin toxin issue.  I just stick with mealies... Actually, the aflatoxin issue can occur if a corn-based bedding is used to raise mealworms or crickets. It is a mold. There is no bedding for dubias, so very little risk. Just wanted to reiterate this - Nancy is correct, the risk of aflatoxin is lower with roaches than either crickets or mealworms because there is no grain based bedding used. Depending on the diet of the roaches, risk can be eliminated entirely. Roaches are VERY healthy because they are a more easily digest-able (less exoskeleton, as Nancy said) adult (less fat, better protein) form insect than any other readily available feeder insect, that I am aware of anyway.  But yes, the ever present ick factor is definitely there, lol.
~Gretchen
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Re: Dubia Roaches
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02/04/12 10:23 AM
02/04/12 10:23 AM
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GliderNursery
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yiyo, I'll have to see if he'll sneak some out for you - cuz sorry! I ain't touchin em'.  Ok, now you guys have me wanting to see if my gliders will eat them. I'm almost out of mealies. Wait, hold on a sec...  Ok, now I'm feeling a little better!  if I ever work up the ovaries to order-  I'm sure if you are talking to him about ordering, he's told you that these tropical roaches cannot survive outside of their container, right? Don't get me wrong, we've had a couple get loose because the egg cartons created a nice little set of steps for them to walk right out when the lid was left open, but they won't survive very long. It's not like you will have a roach infestation in your house ~ so no worries there. If you have their container set up properly, they don't climb out. But the "ick factor" yeah, that hasn't gone away for me yet and we've had them over a year.
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Re: Dubia Roaches
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02/05/12 11:49 PM
02/05/12 11:49 PM
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Monstermash
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Yep. I read that it needed a heat source. Heat Mats seem to be the most highly reccommended.
I ordered these from dubideli.com that Lisha posted about.
Nymph Size: 7/8": 2 1/2 oz. (~150) for $18.23 after tax w/ free shipping
They also offered 50 each Adult Male/Female for $60. This would get your colony started if anyone is interested.
I'm gonna take baby steps and make sure the fuzz butts will even eat them first.
Last edited by Monstermash; 02/06/12 12:31 AM.
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Re: Dubia Roaches
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02/06/12 03:19 PM
02/06/12 03:19 PM
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Posts: 196 Minnesota, U.S.
Lisha
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Sweet diggity I never thought I'd see the day I became an advocate for those nasty things-what a momentous occasion! Seriously though, what a great price! There really isnt a large jump in price between the sizes whatsoever either. I've had the 10 or so that I bought as my "science experiment" for about a month now and I have them in my bearded dragon's old 20 gal. home & so far they are all still alive... I am just using a red "party" bulb I got from wal-mart. I've put forth very, VERY minimal effort towards keeping them that way to see if I could handle a large amount of um and so far I gotta say... the things seem harmlesser than even mealworms-they don't even do that nasty wiggly leave me alone thrashing about thing that mealworms do when u poke at um.
Lisha, Mercedes  , & Porsche  & Bentley
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