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New Member Lucky w/Joeys
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03/30/19 03:08 AM
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Luckey
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On a positive note at least one Joey is OOP. Both parents were down eating and I heard some little chirps which caught my attention. Kalili immediately responded and went to the pouch. Lutana was shortly behind him too. Ooooo!!! Too sweet!!! I have a question for you about pouches. Disclaimer: I have never nor will I ever breed, so I ask these questions to help others down the road... Yes I will parrot, but only when no one else is available. What kind of pouch are the parents sleeping in currently, and at this point, is it wise to only have one sleeping pouch in the cage? I have read parents may abandon joeys if there are other sleeping options. Thank you for being on subject and giving me something to think about. I have 3 available pouches in the cage. The one they prefer is a round one and I haven't washed it since she was preggo. It smells. I was scared of that given when I was a child with puppies you can't touch them for a while or the male might eat them. Any advice on this subject?
Last edited by KarenE; 03/30/19 12:09 PM.
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Re: New Member Lucky w/Joeys
[Re: Luckey]
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03/30/19 03:29 AM
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Ladymagyver
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Let's see, if I recall, the momma will take to a pouch and if I'm not mistaken, will do better with the stinky pouch since you have one Oop. Your story about them being attentive in hearing Joey cry and checking on him made me feel good about their parenting.( I have read too much on parent rejection lately, but try to inform myself in case I'm on nightshift here and help/ advise is needed now.) Of course anything (change) can affect them. New noises, smells, diet change(oops!), Anything out of the ordinary. If it we're me, I'd keep the preferred pouch untill the Joey can climb out on his own. Momma will continue to clean him up. A lot of people try to handle the joeys too soon IMO. But it will depend on the mom and dad. Feather is one of our experts that can answer that question with experience behind her.
Dawn Be patient, and Trust your journey.... Grace Ruby Mom Fiona, Dot, Stewie and Dad Wish I could turn back time... Miss you all...
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Re: New Member Lucky w/Joeys
[Re: Luckey]
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03/30/19 03:48 AM
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I wouldn't wash the pouch momma is sleeping in. I would remove other sleeping pouches if it we're me. Especially since these are new parents. They are doing fine so far. Usually one parent stays with the Joey's while the other eats and does their business. When you said dad went to check on crying Joey, he's still figuring out his roll in raising Joey's. I would watch them close for a few days to make sure joeys are attended to. They aren't good at holding their own body temp yet.
Dawn Be patient, and Trust your journey.... Grace Ruby Mom Fiona, Dot, Stewie and Dad Wish I could turn back time... Miss you all...
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Re: New Member Lucky w/Joeys
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03/30/19 04:21 AM
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If she's showing a moving lump, it's possible. A nervous dad. Lol!
Dawn Be patient, and Trust your journey.... Grace Ruby Mom Fiona, Dot, Stewie and Dad Wish I could turn back time... Miss you all...
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Re: New Member Lucky w/Joeys
[Re: Luckey]
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03/30/19 04:22 AM
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He also may be interested in in mating with her too, and she's not receptive to it yet.
Dawn Be patient, and Trust your journey.... Grace Ruby Mom Fiona, Dot, Stewie and Dad Wish I could turn back time... Miss you all...
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Re: New Member Lucky w/Joeys
[Re: Luckey]
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03/30/19 04:31 AM
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I almost bought a couple night vision spy cams to watch them. But I wouldn't want to edit that much video. Me too. Although I have an issue of dominance/take over in one of my cages right now. I walk in the room, all is good, I walk away, and they hiss and crab and squabble at each other. Stewie just turned a year old and he wants to overthrow 4year old Dot... Long story... But I want to catch them at it... No wounds, just a lot of noise.
Dawn Be patient, and Trust your journey.... Grace Ruby Mom Fiona, Dot, Stewie and Dad Wish I could turn back time... Miss you all...
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Re: New Member Lucky w/Joeys
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03/30/19 04:58 AM
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Yes, she can have joeys, and he will try to mate with her. And, she can put those eggs in stasis for up to a year. There isn't much you can do about it today, again this needs to be moved where it will get more exposure and others with experience can advise you better than me.
Last edited by Ladymagyver; 03/30/19 05:06 AM.
Dawn Be patient, and Trust your journey.... Grace Ruby Mom Fiona, Dot, Stewie and Dad Wish I could turn back time... Miss you all...
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Re: New Member Lucky w/Joeys
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03/30/19 12:25 PM
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Females are also capable of storing fertilized embryos until she is ready to release them so they can make their way into the pouch to attach to the teet and begin growing This is how you get joeys after the male has been neutered. Many owners have been shocked by this miraculous happening , including me
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Re: New Member Lucky w/Joeys
[Re: Luckey]
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03/30/19 02:00 PM
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Wow, I had no idea of this. I was planning on having him fixed after this but from most of the text they wouldn't breed untill I removed the joeys for a couple months. After thinking on this, I realized I read something similar about that too. Then I read that male Joey's can become sexually mature at 4 mos Oop... Am I correct?
Dawn Be patient, and Trust your journey.... Grace Ruby Mom Fiona, Dot, Stewie and Dad Wish I could turn back time... Miss you all...
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Re: New Member Lucky w/Joeys
[Re: Luckey]
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03/30/19 02:01 PM
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I forgot to ask if you still only have one Joey Oop, and if he's ok?
Dawn Be patient, and Trust your journey.... Grace Ruby Mom Fiona, Dot, Stewie and Dad Wish I could turn back time... Miss you all...
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Re: New Member Lucky w/Joeys
[Re: Luckey]
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03/30/19 10:47 PM
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Just some small pointers for you:
Only have one sleeping pouch in the cage for them, so the parents don't move to another sleeping place and abandon the joeys.
Give them an extra serving of everything, if there are 2 adults in the cage give them enough staple, fruit and vegetables for 3.
Female come into heat right about the time the joeys come out of pouch, so she could already be pregnant again.
Females can carry joeys in stasis for up to a year. I had a pair hold joeys for 6 months. It is a big surprise when you go to feed them and find three when the male was neutered 6 months earlier.
I will give them a clean sleeping pouch when the joeys have their eyes open. Some people will put them and the dirty pouch on the floor of the cage and let them move themselves to the clean pouch. I just move them to the clean pouch. I also trim nails that day too. (Not on the joeys)
Kimberley Feathers-Sweetie, Mister Peanut & Big Mack Fur-Guinan, Mr. Spock, T'Mir, Cho, Toothless, Maverick & Maharet T'Pol, Elizabeth & Curzon TY, TJ, Light Fury, Madison & T'Pring Forever in my heart, Gizmo, Tucker, Khayman and the rest of my babies over the
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Re: New Member Lucky w/Joeys
[Re: Luckey]
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04/03/19 04:39 AM
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Luckey
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Feather, I appreciate the advice. I still have the pouch at about 5ft off the ground lvl. I think there is only one Joey. I haven't heard multiple sounds at once. I don't think this shows rejection but both the parents may ignore sounds from the Joey if I'm loading the foraging toys so maybe I need to do that during the day or take the toy out and load it? They just ignore the sounds and look at my fingers like hot dogs. I don't treat then that much though. Like one worm per two toy parts. Or some yogurt drops. So, over the last few days I've heard at once a single tiny bark at a time and nothing else should I assume not to handle it for like 5 more days? She has no more joeys unless they are very tiny still.
Last edited by Luckey; 04/03/19 04:47 AM. Reason: At a time
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Re: New Member Lucky w/Joeys
[Re: Luckey]
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04/03/19 04:53 AM
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Luckey
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Feather, I appreciate the advice. I still have the pouch at about 5ft off the ground lvl. I think there is only one Joey. I haven't heard multiple sounds at once. I don't think this shows rejection but both the parents may ignore sounds from the Joey if I'm loading the foraging toys so maybe I need to do that during the day or take the toy out and load it? They just ignore the sounds and look at my fingers like hot dogs. I don't treat then that much though. Like one worm per two toy parts. Or some yogurt drops. So, over the last few days I've heard at once a single tiny bark and nothing else should I assume not to handle it for like 5 more days? She has no more joeys unless they are very tiny still.
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Re: New Member Lucky w/Joeys
[Re: Luckey]
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04/04/19 06:27 AM
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Congratulations!!! I wonder if you can still buy bubblegum cigars??? What, no video? Done that myself... Ok, there will be another time... In the meantime I'm was hoping for two! Edit::: I meant to say "In the meantime, enjoy your 2 babies, and by the way, I was hoping there were 2 babies!!!" Note to self, have a sip of coffee before trying to type two thoughts at once. I got excited!!!!!
Last edited by Ladymagyver; 04/04/19 06:56 AM. Reason: Half asleep...
Dawn Be patient, and Trust your journey.... Grace Ruby Mom Fiona, Dot, Stewie and Dad Wish I could turn back time... Miss you all...
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Re: New Member Lucky w/Joeys
[Re: Luckey]
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04/04/19 01:03 PM
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KarenE
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Congratulations, Granddad. Isn't it so exciting when you see them for the first time Just relax and enjoy. Cannot wait to see pictures or video.
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Re: New Member Lucky w/Joeys
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04/04/19 08:50 PM
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