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Re: How to Farm Mealworms :) [Re: ] #587178
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Where to get the powdered skim milk? I found non-fat powdered milk only @ my publix.

Also im going to buy the Brewer's Yeast @ Bulkfoods, but i was wondering to, regular dry yeast doesnt work as well?
Cause i didnt find the Brewer's yeast @ publix almost bought the regular yeast,
shakehead(cause bf said it was all the same, told him i didnt think so. He said "I went to culinary school babe." Only for 3 semesters!!!)

Re: How to Farm Mealworms :) [Re: ] #587369
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non-fat is the same as skim wink

Re: How to Farm Mealworms :) [Re: ] #587393
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hey, Nicole -

Do you have any extra worms to ship out?

We're desperate! I have a farm... but only a few large enough to feed!


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Re: How to Farm Mealworms :) [Re: ValkyrieMome] #587410
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Yikes! Lotsa questions! I've gotta check this thread more often, lol.

To answer everything:

*Yes, you can tell when they eat the food-it disappears, lol

*No, you cant't use regular yeast

(here's what I told someone else, hopefully I got my facts straight, lol)

"Brewer's yeast is what's left over after brewing beer. It's "dead" yeast(non-active). Active yeast is what was put in the beer to ferment it, but the fermenting process killed it, thuss elaving Brewer's yeast, the dead stuff.

The nutritional value of each is completely different.

Active yeast has very little nutritional value: http://www.thedailyplate.com/nutrition-c...es&ref=yssp

Bur Brewer's yeast is loaded with good stuff: http://www.thedailyplate.com/nutrition-c...es&ref=yssp"

*the non-fat, as Beckit said, is the same, so it can be used. wink You can also buy it in bulk from bulkfoods.com

*VK- I'll PM you so this thread doesn't get sent to classifieds, lol.


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Re: How to Farm Mealworms :) [Re: Guerita135] #587449
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From my understanding of it, Brewers yeast is any kind of yeast used in brewing (live/active and after it is dead - but the types of yeast used in brewing are more nutritious than some other kinds which is why they are preferred). The used/killed yeast is high in B vitamins, though, so maybe that is what you are referring to. Maybe different people refer to it differently. I know someone that works for a brewing company and that is how he explained it (again, that I remember, without all the technical stuff that I don't roflmao )


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Re: How to Farm Mealworms :) [Re: sugarlope] #587482
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Thanks. wink I'm not familiar with all the details, I just knew that one was live had little nutritional value, but the other was dead and highly nutritious, lol.


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Re: How to Farm Mealworms :) [Re: ] #592115
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What does the transition from larva (mealworm) to pupa (alien) look like? What are the characteristics??? Do they seem like they are dead or will they move. Mine have gotten rather large. However, some have surfaced and seem almost dead?

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When they're about to change to pupae then usually come up to the surface and lay on their sides in a "c" shape or some of them just stick their heads above the surface.

They won't move unless you poke em and even then they just jerk and twitch, but won't normally crawl away.


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Re: How to Farm Mealworms :) [Re: Guerita135] #592156
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Wow, definitely learn something new every day! lol


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Re: How to Farm Mealworms :) [Re: pappy1264] #592236
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I have got to try this. My son inlaw brought me a 50 lb bag of wheat bran from Alpine since we cant get it here. frown
Doesnt make since but anywho...now my order of mealies are lost so they say they will reship. Cant wait to get started on farming. whoohoo...

Re: How to Farm Mealworms :) [Re: morksmom] #592292
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has anyone ever heard of freezing the unused portion of the wheat bran to keep it fresh and bugs out?

I have to use netting/screen on my farm containers to keep pantry moths out.

A couple of years ago I had bought a 50lb bag of cracked corn for the outside squirrels and kept it in my pantry. Well, no one told me not to bring it in the house because it will hatch pantry moths or to freeze it to kill them. I still have not managed to get rid of every single one of those buggers and don't want to give them any more food sources.


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Re: How to Farm Mealworms :) [Re: vagraphix] #592301
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I buy 25lb bags of wheat bran and I store mine in the basement. I have not had any issues with moths. I don't know about freezing it, as it may get moist from freezing and then unfreezing, then you risk mold growing.


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Re: How to Farm Mealworms :) [Re: pappy1264] #592307
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Awesome, I might have to try farming them myself too.

Re: How to Farm Mealworms :) [Re: ] #592328
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I just split up 15 pounds into ziploc bags. That ought to last me for awhile. I also ground some oatmeal with my magic bullet to add in to the beds since I used to use the whole old fashioned oats as bedding. Getting serious now! Sifting only! No hand picking except for aliens and beetles of course!


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Re: How to Farm Mealworms :) [Re: ] #592809
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How can you tell if your aliens are dead???

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Re: How to Farm Mealworms :) [Re: ] #592811
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They turn darker in color (brown) and dont wiggle when you pick them up. lol. wink


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Re: How to Farm Mealworms :) [Re: MatchMakerMagic] #593686
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i have 1,000 mealworms and i put a slice of sweet potato 3 hours later it was gone.

i have 150 giant mealworms in another container and the seet potato is still there. most of the giant mealworms are at the surface and just laying there, some on thier side and other upside down.

im worried im not dowing something right. are they more active when its more humid. are they getting ready to change to aliens? or is it just too hot for them , and they dont feel like crawling around?

Re: How to Farm Mealworms :) [Re: ] #593691
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We use sweet potato as well for our mealies....they go through phases where the potato will vanish over night and then sometimes the don't touch it at all.......sorry don't know anything about the giant ones....

Re: How to Farm Mealworms :) [Re: ] #593712
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I've read they come to the surface of the bedding and go into a "C" position right before they turn into aliens. They also like it humid. Not too much, you dont want mold though. It is a balancing act it seems. If you pick them up, do they still wiggle? If so I wouldn't worry about them. Just keep a source of moisture in there (your sweet potato) and you should be fine.

If they are dying you'll see them turning dark brown, then black and they should be removed. I think I read temps shouldn't be too high like not over 88 or something? But there are people here in FL that have no trouble with them on screen porches outside. dunno


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Re: How to Farm Mealworms :) [Re: Guerita135] #593754
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Wow, there seems to be alot to do to farm your own mealworms. The place where i bought my snake sells Superworms @ 15 for $1.00. Is it really worth it to farm my own mealworms or should i stick to buying them at the store?

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It depends on how many gliders you have. If you buy worms in bulk it is much cheaper then buying them at the store. You dont necessarily have to farm them . But if u buy in bulk and u can maintain them , fatten them up. You need the necessary tools to keep them.

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Re: How to Farm Mealworms :) [Re: ] #593781
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I only have two gliders. If i was to buy in bulk and fatten them up, how many do you suggest i buy and what tools are required to fatten them up?

Re: How to Farm Mealworms :) [Re: vagraphix] #593803
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Originally Posted By: vagraphix
has anyone ever heard of freezing the unused portion of the wheat bran to keep it fresh and bugs out?

I have to use netting/screen on my farm containers to keep pantry moths out.

A couple of years ago I had bought a 50lb bag of cracked corn for the outside squirrels and kept it in my pantry. Well, no one told me not to bring it in the house because it will hatch pantry moths or to freeze it to kill them. I still have not managed to get rid of every single one of those buggers and don't want to give them any more food sources.


I have a HUGE problem with grain moths, too. They came in with some bird food, and there is just NO getting rid of them! They find any small bit of grain to reproduce in. Between the bird food and the meal worm farm ... it is constant!

Good idea about freezing the wheat bran ... I'll do that.


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What size container are your giants in? They generate more heat than the other sizes and the heat will kill them. I actually had to put a fan on mine (I lost alot of them). I notice they only seem to eat the bedding, only a couple even touched the potato I put in (the giants/mighties, the smallers ones eat it in a matter of hours! lol)


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Re: How to Farm Mealworms :) [Re: pappy1264] #593948
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i guess ill point the air purfier in their direction. I hope they are just getting ready to morph into aliens!!!

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[quote=vagraphix]has anyone ever heard of freezing the unused portion of the wheat bran to keep it fresh and bugs out?



I just put one of the smaller bags of bran in the freezer, so I guess I'll find out what happens to it...............


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hmmm i thought aliens turn dark brown and then black/beetles? As of the past three days i now have 9 aliens total. When i pick them up i don't notice them wiggling. Am i doing something wrong???

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aliens should be white, if they're turning dark brown/black, they're dead

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If they don't turn brown how do they make the transition to black???

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They'll turn a LIGHT brown after a while, but they should never be dark brown/black.

Are you leaving the aliens in with the mealies/beetles? If so, they might be killing them.


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