Sugar Glider Community Calendar

Please click here to see larger view
Articles
More coming soon!!
Today's Birthdays
B1u3sky, StellaLuna
Member Spotlight
Hutch
Hutch
Belleville, IL
Posts: 1,482
Joined: November 2015
Show All Member Profiles 
Last 10 Posts
Gliders of the Round Table 10
by Feather. 03/27/24 07:04 PM
Logging in Problem
by Feather. 03/26/24 06:07 PM
Cloaca swollen?
by Hutch. 03/16/24 11:51 PM
Wheels, Toys, Toy supplies, pouches and more.
by Ladymagyver. 03/07/24 11:16 PM
Gliders of the Round Table 9
by Hutch. 03/07/24 10:52 PM
Stewie:" It's MY Mouse!"
by Hutch. 03/04/24 12:12 AM
2024 Sugar Glider Calendar and Cafe Press Store
by theresaw. 02/29/24 08:55 PM
Custom Cage Liners Machine Wash & Dry
by gr8pots. 02/27/24 04:23 PM
Google+

Facebook
Join Us On Facebook
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 2 of 2 1 2
Re: ASGS Says BML Is Harmful To Sugar Gliders [Re: ] #7693
08/22/03 06:23 AM
08/22/03 06:23 AM

A
Anonymous
Unregistered
Anonymous
Unregistered
A



I find ASGA's opinions rather amusing. They are worried about the vitamins and the honey, but not the yogurt, which is what I worry about with BML. My glider will not eat yogurt and I'm glad because I personally feel he shouldn't. I don't like to feed dairy products to my glider even if it is somewhat broken down. I think that using the yogurt in the BML is fine, but I worry about the risk of high lactose or high bacteria. Neither of which is good.

Re: ASGS Says BML Is Harmful To Sugar Gliders [Re: ] #7694
08/22/03 06:43 AM
08/22/03 06:43 AM
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,857
England, UK
DeXien Offline
Glider Slave
DeXien  Offline
Glider Slave

Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,857
England, UK
Their opinions aren't so much amusing.. they're just opinions. Nothing wrong with that; it's just a shame they can't back up whatever it is they're trying to prove. Or not a shame at ALL, as the case may be.

And .. actually, the natural yogurt is good BECAUSE of the high bacteria; because these are GOOD bacteria, who help with the glider's digestive tract and all other manner of things. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumb.gif" alt="" />

I really am slightly confused as to why subject goes over and over.. and I doubt it will ever really stop. There is always going to be competition, and always going to be controversy. But until someone gives me some solid proof of why BML is bad (I'm not going to hold my breath; it'll be a long wait, if not an infinite one), then I'll just let them get on with it. S'up to them. As of now, I'm going to wash my hands of the subject. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nixweiss.gif" alt="" />


Saffron -- OOP 7th April 2003-> 8th May 2013. RIP, sweetheart.
Re: ASGS Says BML Is Harmful To Sugar Gliders [Re: ] #7695
08/22/03 08:55 AM
08/22/03 08:55 AM
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 385
Wallis, Texas
mary h Offline
Glider Lover
mary h  Offline
Glider Lover

Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 385
Wallis, Texas
Did you know that since the 1930's milk has been fortified with 10 micrograms (400IU)of VitaminD per quart. As a result rickets(a bone disease seen in children) is now uncommon in the U.S.
Another item of interest, the main source for the VitD is from the brains of cattle, the brains and skin of swine. Gliders need the calcium supplement with VitD3, but as to the exact amount, I'll leave that up to the experts. My vet with whom I disagree, said the glider would get enough D3 from its regular diet. Since we do not feed any fish products or other foods that contain any significant amount of VitD, we will continue to suppliment. We have been raising gliders for 7 years on the BML diet, so I trust the amounts specified in that particular diet. I'm not saying this the diet to end all diet research, just saying it works for us so until something that is better is proven we will be staying with it.
mary h & Charlie


mary h
Re: ASGS Says BML Is Harmful To Sugar Gliders [Re: ] #7696
08/22/03 09:16 AM
08/22/03 09:16 AM

A
Anonymous
Unregistered
Anonymous
Unregistered
A



I don't want to stir things up but you can overdose on calcium although not common cronic use can lead to overdose which can cause kidney damage and other problems.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002605.htm
This is an article from a fairly respected source.

Lactose Intolerance [Re: ] #7697
08/23/03 03:38 AM
08/23/03 03:38 AM

A
Anonymous
Unregistered
Anonymous
Unregistered
A



[:"blue"] Glider Greetings, DutchessLively: <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />


</font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
.....but not the yogurt, which is what I worry about.....

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> [:"blue"]

"Lactose intolerance" when discussed in relation to gliders is generally misunderstood. Yogurt is actually good for gliders. Here is an article written by Caroline MacPherson that should help you out a little.

Lactose Intolerance <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/read.gif" alt="" />
[/]



Re: Lactose Intolerance [Re: ] #7698
08/23/03 09:36 PM
08/23/03 09:36 PM

A
Anonymous
Unregistered
Anonymous
Unregistered
A



Randy I think you mean Caroline MacPherson, Right? That is her website.

Ushuaia

Re: Lactose Intolerance [Re: ] #7699
08/23/03 11:21 PM
08/23/03 11:21 PM
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 1,689
most beautiful place on earth
Gliderbuff Offline
Glider Slave
Gliderbuff  Offline
Glider Slave

Joined: May 2002
Posts: 1,689
most beautiful place on earth
OK!!!!I've Had ENOUGH!!!!!


<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/roflmao.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/multi.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/multi.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/multi.gif" alt="" />FOOD FIGHT!!!!!!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/multi.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/multi.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/multi.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/multi.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/multi.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/multi.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/multi.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/multi.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/multi.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/multi.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/multi.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/multi.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/multi.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/multi.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/multi.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/multi.gif" alt="" />


-Life is just a bowl of cherries;
Don't take it serious,
Life's too mysterious.
You work, you save, you worry so.
But you can't take the dough, when you go.
So keep repeating, "It's the berries!"
The strongest oak must fall.
The sweet things in life to you were just loan,
So how can you lose what you've never owned?
Life is just a bowl of cherries, so live and laugh,
Laugh and love; live, laugh and love at it all......

Author unknown. (but does it really matter anyway? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />)


Live Deliberately...
Initiate Change...

I believe in argument for the purpose of individual revelation.

Be overly kind, for everyone you meet is in some kind of battle.
Re: Lactose Intolerance [Re: ] #7700
08/23/03 11:47 PM
08/23/03 11:47 PM

A
Anonymous
Unregistered
Anonymous
Unregistered
A



[:"blue"] Glider Greetings, Chris: <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />


</font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
Randy I think you mean Caroline MacPherson.....

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">
[:"blue"]
You are correct......don't know what I was thinking??????? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shakehead.gif" alt="" />
[/]

Re: Lactose Intolerance [Re: ] #7701
08/25/03 12:41 AM
08/25/03 12:41 AM

A
Anonymous
Unregistered
Anonymous
Unregistered
A



I've read all the posts this time, as well as the last year of diet debates(I've been reading about gliders here for a year, just joined when I was going to get one) did my own homework and research on the web, and my OPINION is to go BML with my gliders. Since I stopped "eyeballing" how much fruits, veggies and BML and using my measuring spoons, things have gone WONDERFULLY with my babies. I'm a huge worrywart, you've seen me post many questions, I want what's best for my gliders, and I choose Bourbon's diet, not only for the fact it is proven in years of use of keeping gliders healthy, happ and living long lives(or should I say NOT proven harmful EVER? LOL) Captive gliders are living YEARS longer than wild gliders (on average) and many of these ARE on the BML diet (I'd love to know actual percentages of diets used versus lifespan, but we'd never get something scientific with multiple owners, the fruits/veggies and insects would have to be the exact same per day, per amount, same number of gliders per cage, neutered/spayed/unaltered equalities not to mention bonding, habitats, etc etc etc it goes on FOREVER) What does Bourbon gain for sharing her recipe? Well, it seems the only thing she's gaining is a ton of attitude and grief and arguments and questions from some, but MANY happy healthy gliders of people who choose to follow the plan. Is it worth the flapping fingers for her? Some days I doubt it, but I don't see any cash lining her pockets for this help she gives, in fact, I see a person dedicated enough to gliders to spend countless hours researching/quesitoning/answering anythign she can find out for the betterment of gliders in general, not just hers...Kudos Bourbon, my hat's off to you, I appreciate the diet plan suggestions, and follow it exactly, and happily will as long as I have gliders, UNLESS YOU suggest something else, because I know you won't do it for profit, but for their health, out of glider love...THANK YOU, I feel like I can't say that enough for all you've done for us, and that, my glider pals, will be my ONLY comments about diet EVER...

Re: ASGS Says BML Is Harmful To Sugar Gliders [Re: ] #7702
09/07/03 11:32 AM
09/07/03 11:32 AM

A
Anonymous
Unregistered
Anonymous
Unregistered
A



That's interesting, the American Sugar Glider Society article is no longer online. In fact, the entire ASGS website is gone. What happened? Did the American Sugar Glider Society go defunct?

Re: ASGS Says BML Is Harmful To Sugar Gliders [Re: ] #7703
09/07/03 11:52 AM
09/07/03 11:52 AM

A
Anonymous
Unregistered
Anonymous
Unregistered
A



The owners branched off and made the WSGN. YOu can view the post about it here

Re: ASGS Says BML Is Harmful To Sugar Gliders [Re: ] #7704
09/08/03 12:39 AM
09/08/03 12:39 AM

A
Anonymous
Unregistered
Anonymous
Unregistered
A



OK, so what's the status of the American Sugar Glider Society? Do they still exist? They apparently don't have a website anymore.

Re: ASGS Says BML Is Harmful To Sugar Gliders [Re: ] #7705
09/08/03 01:08 AM
09/08/03 01:08 AM

A
Anonymous
Unregistered
Anonymous
Unregistered
A



This should probably be moved to another topic, but to my knowledge, ASGS is no longer.

I'm going to close this topic since the original thread deals with a site that is no longer up. Please feel free to start a new topic if you have any questions. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Page 2 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  Feather, KarenE, Ladymagyver 

Sugar Glider Help Page



Please click above to see how you can help!!

Moon
CURRENT MOON
Who's Online Now
0 registered members (), 382 guests, and 84 spiders.
Key: , , Owner, Admin
Newest Members
Mellefrl, klowvrrr, gracefulguardian, KiyokoTheDoll, Hazelneko
7324 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums132
Topics10,374
Posts159,160
posts in the last 24hrs0
Members7,324
Most Online2,693
Jan 2nd, 2020
Last 10 New Topics
Logging in Problem
by Anonymous. 03/24/24 11:43 AM
Gliders of the Round Table 10
by Hutch. 03/07/24 10:50 PM
Cloaca swollen?
by Mellefrl. 03/04/24 02:39 PM
2024 Sugar Glider Calendar and Cafe Press Store
by theresaw. 08/15/23 02:37 PM
Stewie:" It's MY Mouse!"
by Ladymagyver. 05/25/21 09:57 AM
Gliders of the Round Table 9
by Hutch. 02/12/19 11:35 PM
Custom Cage Liners Machine Wash & Dry
by gr8pots. 06/03/14 10:25 AM
Popular Topics(Views)
849,551 TEXAS
679,068 OHIO
487,134 OKLAHOMA
432,138 UTAH
321,663 NORTH CAROLINA
Supported Browser
This site was tested and is best viewed in Google Chrome & Mozilla FireFox



Firefox 3

Download your copy today!!!
Home Forums Links Sitemap Vets Breeders Sounds Contact Us Names Rules & Policies

GliderCENTRAL
©1998-2024
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software
(Release build 20180918)
Page Time: 0.036s Queries: 14 (0.010s) Memory: 1.3491 MB (Peak: 1.5650 MB) Zlib enabled. Server Time: 2024-03-28 09:35:30 UTC