Hi Lauren,

This pm is to open the lines of communication, there will be more pm's to follow later in the day. You may be unaware that the emails between you and (removed for privacy), as well as the emails you had with Megan have been sent to us.

I am not sure why it doesn't surprise me to wake this am to see you left a review over at SGH for Megan calling her a scammer when in fact it is you that is a scammer.



Since SGH is owned by GliderCENTRAL, you just may have made your biggest mistake by posting lies over at SGH. Later on this evening you will be notified by us to discuss your account her at GliderCENTRAL, as well as further actions to alert the community. We have the emails to prove your lies, this is what we get for giving you yet another chance?

ALL the emails? That can't be true, as I have emails from (removed for privacy) as well stating that she HAS not given me money and that she wants to WAIT until I have babies available. :-)

No, Im talking about the emails with your lies, Megan sending you back $250 cause you needed help, etc. That all contradictory to your story that she stole money from you, the lies you have told than tried to cover up. No worries, we will talk later

Do you wish to share your side of the story including why you lied in the review you left for Megan?

I thought that since Deagol was coming home at the beginning of February, originally, I could collect "early deposits" from people to be put on a waiting list for his babies - and it would help to pay what I still owed Megan at that point. I did not realize the extent of the mistake I was making when I did this, much less, that it could be months before I actually had babies - I made a huge mistake, and I am now living with the consequences of it, as I owe money I do not have. I do admit claiming that Megan's PayPal address belonged to me, and I did this to try and cover up the lies I had already told, my boyfriend was uncomfortable having any more money sent to his actual PayPal and I panicked, so I was having people send money to her PayPal and stating it belonged to us - another huge mistake that I didn't really think through. I admit to lying, but I realize the mistakes I have made and am making a desperate attempt to pay everyone back because I really do feel terrible for what I had done.

No, I am not going to tell you that was an attempt to make things right, because it wasn't. I was infuriated and frustrated when I wrote that review, I was upset that everything wasn't working how I planned, and I took it out on her, which I shouldn't have to begin with.

The situation with (name removed for privacy) was messed up in every way possible, and it only got worse when I tried to correct and cover up what I had already done wrong - I should have been open with them both from the beginning. I admit that was wrong, and I have apologized profusely to them both, as well as promised (name removed for privacy) that I would return her money as quickly as possible, I have returned $250.00 that I owed her, and the remaining money will be sent to her sometime this week, which I have explained to her.

Originally, I had taken deposits to cover his cost so he could come home in February, but when that didn't happen and I had to take money back , I again tried desperately to get the money to pay Megan back and still work out the railroad for Deagol.

Actually, I believe what you told her was to expect the money from Megan, and that deadline has passed.

In addition to all this you did to (name removed for privacy) we have proof you told her you were a well know breeder on GliderCENTRAL and her money would be safe. Well, I suppose the part about your being well known was true, wasn't it?

"I" have assured (name removed for privacy) she will NOT be receiving any money from Megan as she too is just another one of your victims.

I believe we are done here, Lauren, except to remind you of our agreement per our e-mail when your ban was lifted which read as follows:

I have NOT told her to expect money from Megan. I told her that I have requested a refund from Megan, and the money will be sent once I have received it. I also have told her that I have sold a pair of my Gliders, which is true, and that once they are paid for, I will have additional money.

Lauren contacted me and said she had joey's due soon and would I like to adopt one. I am not sure how she knew I was looking, I did put an ad on hobbly.com before Christmas. I responded and she said she was on Glidercentral and was a known breeder on your website. The cost of the glider was 1200.00 and she required a 500.00 deposit which I payed through paypal.

About a week later she contacted me again and said her BEST friend (xxxx) had a glider available now, and was the same as the one I was adopting. A Crème-ino baby. The price was the same as her's so I said yes. (xxxx) sent me a Paypal request for 650.00 which I payed – that is the difference from the 500.00 deposit I gave Lauren which I assumed she would be giving to (xxxx).

I then discovered (xxxx)'s ad advertising the same baby for 650.00 – this is the baby Lauren said was 1200.00. So (xxxx) got 650.00 and Lauren pocketed the 500.00.

(xxxx) took the airline ticket and cost of the travel cage out of my 650.00 and refunded me $316.14 USD which was paid from (name removed for privacy) and this persons email differs to (xxxx)'s – the Paypal receipt says (removed for privacy)

And from there I have had several email's from Lauren stating the money will be there and of course it's not and then today her email talked about "recovering" money from a Megan.

Okay, here goes:

I was contacted at the end of December by Lauren who was interested in one of my mosaic joeys. We talked things over and everything seemed fine.

A couple days after she sent the deposit, I was contacted by someone in the glider community that said she was bad news. That's when I started forum hopping and seeing what all I could find out about her. What I found I definitely wasn't pleased with. I never knew Lauren had been in the glider community since she was 12 and had been breeding since then as well. I panicked and decided to back out of our arrangement.

During the next couple days, Lauren messaged me through Facebook saying that she understood and that she hopes my joeys finds a fantastic home and so on. That's when the guilt and remorse kicked in and I started feeling sorry for her. I had her call me so that we could talk one on one and discuss things, which we did. She told me over and over that she changed, has grown up and stopped breeding the rescued gliders that she had. She also told me all of her males were neutered except one, but he was to be neutered in less than a week. After that, I decided to give her a second chance because she was telling me everything that I wanted to hear and it gave me a sense of relief.

A week had passed and I was contacted by another person in the glider community that said Lauren was trying to sell an un-neutered male and female to someone. This was a big red flag to me, because I was told that her male would've been neutered a couple days before. That's when I decided to contact Lauren again and ask her personally. She started saying that she really wanted to get her male neutered, but didn't have the money at the time and was pushing it off for another week, but still had full intentions of getting him neutered as soon as possible. Again, she's told me what I wanted to hear and that there's was nothing she could do about it.

Everything went fine for the next couple weeks. She even managed to pay him off a week before the Friday Railroad was planned. Well Wednesday rolled around and I had a really long message from her about her horse being ill and that she needed to know if I could send some of the money back, $600 to be exact, and if she could hold off on getting the joey for a while. I had requested a Paypal check the day before, so I had very limited funds in my account and was only able to send $250 back. The email address that she told me to send the $250 to wasn't either of the addresses that she uses and this was extremely odd to me. After that, I started asking what the issue with her horse was. That's when she told me that her horse had to have Colic surgery and she needed at least $500 before the vet would do anything. I asked her how much the surgery was going to cost and she said $1500. That was yet another red flag as I have been around horses my entire life and know Colic surgery costs along the lines of $10,000 with at least $2,000 down. I brought this to her attention, but she just blew it off and tried to go around the question. She also said to let her know as soon as I could send more money. During all of this, I kind of had the feeling she was wanting to back out of our arrangement, but wasn't sure.

The next day, which was Thursday and the day before our Railroad started, she messaged me and said that she would probably have the $250 Friday or Saturday morning and that we could plan on still doing the Railroad if I was comfortable sending him to her without him being paid in full. I was visiting family at the time and didn't get in touch with her until Friday evening. I told her that I wouldn't be home until Saturday and that I was definitely not comfortable sending him home without him being paid in full.

Late Friday night I get a notification from Paypal saying that I received $250 for a joey deposit from a lady named, Ann. I knew that there had to be some kind of mix up, so I issued a refund and contacted Ann. That's when things really started to unravel. Apparently Ann had contacted Lauren about adopting a joey from her. Lauren told Ann that her WF glider had 2 joeys IP that should be ready at the end of March. Ann asked specifically for pictures of the parents of the joey that she would be adopting and that's when Lauren sent Ann a picture of her WF glider and MY mosaic joey that she didn't even have yet! Ann also mentioned that Lauren said she bred for WF, Standard, Black Beauty and I believe Mosaic and Leucistic and that she had lineage on all of her gliders. I knew that Lauren had NO breeding pairs and made that clear to Ann.

I was extremely upset after hearing that she was accepting deposits on joeys that she didn't have and wouldn't have more months! I contacted Lauren right away and confronted her. She tried to make things up and said that she was selling someone else's joeys to Ann. That's when I brought up the photos that she sent to Ann. Lauren just tried to say that Ann was asking for pictures of ALL of her gliders. I knew for a fact that she was lying because I had Ann's emails to prove it. I told Lauren that Ann did NOT ask for pictures of all her glider and that she specifically asked for a photo each of the parents of the joey she was going to adopt. When I asked Lauren why she kept lying and was taking deposits on joeys that she wasn't even close to having her response was this: "Because I NEED the money, and I'm stressed, I don't know."