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#1413208 - 12/03/17 08:03 AM Another Prolapsed cloaca
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Morning,
One of my boys has another prolapsed cloaca. I separated him and put a water based gel on his area. I don't know what to do anymore. They have an open water source- please give some suggestions.

I do have left over antibiotics from before.

I am nervous and scared as I am sure he is.

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#1413209 - 12/03/17 09:52 AM Re: Another Prolapsed cloaca [Re: JenK]
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I would not administer the leftover antibiotic. He will have to see a vet asap. I'm going to review our previous conversation and be back.
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#1413210 - 12/03/17 10:20 AM Re: Another Prolapsed cloaca [Re: JenK]
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So looking back at your last post, we recommended open water source.

I will assume you have kept the same.

Are these gliders related? Like maybe brothers?


Does this glider have same symptoms?
Is he straining?

Are they neutered?

I'm asking for others to read. I have no experience, but want to get info gathered.

How is Jake(?) doing?
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#1413213 - 12/03/17 11:17 AM Re: Another Prolapsed cloaca [Re: Ladymagyver]
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The glider (Chip) in concern is not related to any other gliders. I am going to the vet.

He is sleeping now, I am hoping the sleeping will let him relax a bit. I put a water based gel on him and he has an open water source.

He is separated for now with an open water source. No body else has symptoms. They did in the past and were all put on antibiotics and did well. They are all neutered.

I haven't seen Chip strain at all.

This is all so scary frown

I have not administered any leftover antibiotics- thank you for the suggestion.




Edited by JenK (12/03/17 11:35 AM)
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#1413233 - 12/03/17 09:35 PM Re: Another Prolapsed cloaca [Re: JenK]
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I'm sorry. Hopefully he'll do well with treatment as well. Prayers.
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#1413253 - 12/05/17 05:03 PM Re: Another Prolapsed cloaca [Re: JenK]
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Just an update, Chip has a blocked anal gland- surgery next week. Heís on different antibiotics until then. The vet showed me where and what side he was blocked.


Edited by JenK (12/05/17 05:04 PM)
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#1413257 - 12/05/17 10:16 PM Re: Another Prolapsed cloaca [Re: JenK]
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Glad you found out what was going on and that he didn't try to express his anal glands. That makes it 1000 times worse.
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#1413259 - 12/05/17 11:14 PM Re: Another Prolapsed cloaca [Re: JenK]
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I am so glad the vet found the problem.

Please keep us posted on his surgery.
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#1413268 - 12/06/17 02:22 PM Re: Another Prolapsed cloaca [Re: JenK]
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I will let you all know how things turn out.

Thank you all !!! This has been a frightening experience for both of us, Iím sure.
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#1413272 - 12/06/17 06:24 PM Re: Another Prolapsed cloaca [Re: JenK]
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Thank you! I'm grateful to share this experience with you! Prayers and happy thoughts!
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#1413276 - 12/06/17 09:13 PM Re: Another Prolapsed cloaca [Re: Ladymagyver]
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It's good news they identified the problem and there is a solution for it. Continued prayers for you and your little Chip.
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#1413282 - 12/07/17 06:55 AM Re: Another Prolapsed cloaca [Re: JenK]
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Hey what is the name of this vet?
If you can't say it publicly, please PM it to me.

So RARE to find a vet that will actually take a serious look at a suggie--much less be able to do an advanced diagnosis and SURGERY?

I want this person in my Rolladex.

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#1413285 - 12/07/17 10:16 AM Re: Another Prolapsed cloaca [Re: TwoDog]
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Hey what is the name of this vet?
If you can't say it publicly, please PM it to me.

So RARE to find a vet that will actually take a serious look at a suggie--much less be able to do an advanced diagnosis and SURGERY?

I want this person in my Rolladex.


(raise your hand) if you still remember what a Rolladex is.

if you actually still use one, TwoDog.
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#1413286 - 12/07/17 11:00 AM Re: Another Prolapsed cloaca [Re: KarenE]
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I remember! But never had one, lol, shakehead no I used the good-old-reliable phone & address books, lol. Matter of fact, I still do, just write everything in pencil :haha:
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#1413288 - 12/07/17 03:07 PM Re: Another Prolapsed cloaca [Re: TwoDog]
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The vet I went to is Dr. Medlin- http://www.scottmedlin.com

I donít see why I canít give out his website smile

He gave me more knowledge and explained the procedure as well as the reason for the surgery, he said just antibiotics will only mask the problem.

He also explained post surgery care. The blockage is the size of a lentil.


Edited by JenK (12/07/17 03:21 PM)
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#1413289 - 12/07/17 03:22 PM Re: Another Prolapsed cloaca [Re: Terry]
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Thank you! <3 Terry


Edited by JenK (12/07/17 03:25 PM)
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#1413290 - 12/07/17 03:24 PM Re: Another Prolapsed cloaca [Re: Ladymagyver]
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Thank you! <3 Lady Magyver


Edited by JenK (12/07/17 03:25 PM)
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#1413294 - 12/07/17 07:17 PM Re: Another Prolapsed cloaca [Re: JenK]
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Originally Posted By: JenK
The vet I went to is Dr. Medlin- http://www.scottmedlin.com

I donít see why I canít give out his website smile

He gave me more knowledge and explained the procedure as well as the reason for the surgery, he said just antibiotics will only mask the problem.

He also explained post surgery care. The blockage is the size of a lentil.


Awesome vet! You're lucky!
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#1413435 - 12/14/17 02:36 PM Re: Another Prolapsed cloaca [Re: JenK]
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Update- they canceled surgery at the last minute. They put him under and examined more closely. They said the meds have decreased the blockage significantly and they donít believe he had an abscess. They prescribed 7 more days of meds 2 times a day a total of 14 days. They explained that the last vet may have not prescribed the proper dosage or long enough. However, if he prolapses again surgery is a matter of fact.

I am so happy right now!!

Thank you all for being there! <3


Edited by JenK (12/14/17 03:23 PM)
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#1413442 - 12/14/17 09:03 PM Re: Another Prolapsed cloaca [Re: JenK]
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#1413650 - 12/21/17 01:45 PM Re: Another Prolapsed cloaca [Re: JenK]
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Chip has done so great with all the meds heís been on. Heís a champ taking meds as well. So far I have noticed an increase in his activity. I hope this continues.

Thank you all !!
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#1413651 - 12/21/17 02:05 PM Re: Another Prolapsed cloaca [Re: JenK]
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I was just thinking about you!

I'm so happy your update is great news!!!

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#1413653 - 12/21/17 02:56 PM Re: Another Prolapsed cloaca [Re: JenK]
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#1413711 - 12/23/17 09:46 AM Re: Another Prolapsed cloaca [Re: Feather]
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Jenk, I'm so happy to hear that!!!
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#1413956 - 01/02/18 08:46 AM Re: Another Prolapsed cloaca [Re: JenK]
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Thank you! We all had a great New Year! Happy and healthy. This is by far the best group! Great help and quick responses, and support. . Iím sure a lot of you know how frightening it is not to get a response for help, especially on a Sunday or holiday.

I hope you all had the same with your fur babies.


Edited by JenK (01/02/18 09:23 AM)
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#1413957 - 01/02/18 10:07 AM Re: Another Prolapsed cloaca [Re: JenK]
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JenK, glad all is well with you and yours. Let's hope 2018 is a very good year for all.
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#1414608 - 02/01/18 04:43 PM Re: Another Prolapsed cloaca [Re: JenK]
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So, unfortunately Chip prolapsed again this morning. Went to the vet, he is sending in a culture to look more closely at bacteria that may be in his anal gland. He said he could have had an infection when he was younger that was not treated properly which may have caused an anal gland to deform.

He was a rescue, I purchased him and his brother from a rescue and know their story.

The vet discussed a possible abnormal anal gland that can have pockets that will not Ďstayí clear due to pockets. He also discussed surgery as a last resort, which he said would happen if it happened again.
Waiting for a culture to come back. About a week.

Chip has lost grams, which I questioned and I am very concerned about. In August he was 115g, Dec. 110g, Feb. 1 105g.

Long, long story short - the vet suggested a 28 day dosage of meds and possibly chloramphenicol if the culture comes back positive for something. This antibiotic has been used with precaution in exotics with abscesses.

The vet said he did not feel a mass like the last time Chip was in, which is sort of good news, but new questions come up. He also said cancer does not seem probable at this time- the weight loss seems to point to the infection and Chip is noticing heís not feeling well.

I received a lot of info again, and different approaches, surgery as a last resort. Thank goodness!

Iím out of ideas and I just want him to gain grams and feel better. &#128533;&#128148;

Has anyone had this problem before?? Or something similar? Any ideas or suggestions would be helpful .

Thank you!!
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#1414610 - 02/01/18 07:27 PM Re: Another Prolapsed cloaca [Re: JenK]
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Poor Chip, and poor you, I'm sure this has been an ordeal, ongoing for you both. I'm glad you have a good vet accessable. Keep you and Chip in prayers.
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#1414611 - 02/01/18 07:58 PM Re: Another Prolapsed cloaca [Re: JenK]
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Poor little fella... Prayers to you both.

Thank you for his update, and please keep us posted.
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#1414629 - 02/02/18 12:47 PM Re: Another Prolapsed cloaca [Re: JenK]
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I have know ideas for you other than what your vet has stated. I hope things work out for you and the little guy.
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