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Re: Question about PPP? [Re: morbidelf] #613142
08/15/08 07:06 PM
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Right now SESG is down for upgrade and repairs. Once it's back up, go to the "Mill Breeder" forum, you will find several areas that you can participate in.

Re: Question about PPP? [Re: LSardou] #613214
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I think animal control should be called on them, since everything they do DOES seem to be under animal neglect, such as - failing to provide the basic and proper care to them.

I might sound like a PETA person in this next statement, but I hate PETA, so don't get the wrong idea. But I honestly believe that all of the gliders that they basically torture would be better off being put to sleep. Since most of them are inbred anyway, they'd probably end up having an underlying health problem or shortened life span. Plus, people might want to breed the suggies they get from there, further increasing the number of homeless gliders.

Re: Question about PPP? [Re: konotashi] #613239
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I don't want to see (PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets or any of the mill breeders succeed, but when & if they do get stopped, what will happen to all of those inocent creatures? They don't deserve to live that way, but they don't deserve to die for it either! There are so many sad animal stories with gliders, cats, dogs, you name it. The people are the ones to blame and I don't know how to even begin to take on that task!


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Re: Question about PPP? [Re: ] #613243
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Originally Posted By: Lilleethesugee
Daron, you mean to tell me that guy sold Bandit to your dad? That's crazy cuz when we bought our gliders he talked about how Bandit was so bonded that if anyone was to walk away from the booth with him he would make his way back to him.


I'm willing to bet he has lots of "Bandits" that are ahem..bonded to him.


Keeper of Handprints on my Heart, You left your Footprints on my soul.
My precious loves that left to quickly, Peanut, Katie
Isabella, Kiwi, Bonnie and Monroe.

Spread your wings and glide free of pain,
Until the day I see you again.

God speed my precious angels. I love you. Mama.
Re: Question about PPP? [Re: konotashi] #613245
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Originally Posted By: konotashi
I think animal control should be called on them, since everything they do DOES seem to be under animal neglect, such as - failing to provide the basic and proper care to them.

I might sound like a PETA person in this next statement, but I hate PETA, so don't get the wrong idea. But I honestly believe that all of the gliders that they basically torture would be better off being put to sleep. Since most of them are inbred anyway, they'd probably end up having an underlying health problem or shortened life span. Plus, people might want to breed the suggies they get from there, further increasing the number of homeless gliders.


I wish we could get them all shut down, make them pay for neuters and hand over the good cages, supplies, etc., then give us all those suggies! There are enough of us who care that would take them in. I would rather give them a good home and love even if they are inbred or sick than to see them put to sleep. At least they will have known love from someone.


Keeper of Handprints on my Heart, You left your Footprints on my soul.
My precious loves that left to quickly, Peanut, Katie
Isabella, Kiwi, Bonnie and Monroe.

Spread your wings and glide free of pain,
Until the day I see you again.

God speed my precious angels. I love you. Mama.
Re: Question about PPP? [Re: SugarBlossoms] #613267
08/15/08 10:16 PM
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All of the vets offices would be overrun with sugar glider appointments or emergencies, since so many of them are sick anyway.... I would definately take in a couple, though. I'm pretty sure that my parents would pay the vet bills. My mom hates to see anything suffer, and I'd be a total wreck if they didn't get help. I'm sure she'd LOVE to see that. (Not.)

The "make them pay for neuters" would be awesome! Since they rip off people anyway, they have ALL that extra money to be able to do that. Is the glider food they feed their gliders good for them at all?
Since all they focus on is their smell and not their health....
My girls are on BML and they don't stink at all, unless they pee on me, but then I'M the one that stinks, not them.

Re: Question about PPP? [Re: konotashi] #613271
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Originally Posted By: konotashi

The "make them pay for neuters" would be awesome! Since they rip off people anyway, they have ALL that extra money to be able to do that. Is the glider food they feed their gliders good for them at all?


Especially since they have been charging 50.00 plus to "have them neutered" when all they do is neuter them with pocket knives!!!!

No, I haven't found ANY of the food they feed to be good for a suggie...or any animal for that matter.


Keeper of Handprints on my Heart, You left your Footprints on my soul.
My precious loves that left to quickly, Peanut, Katie
Isabella, Kiwi, Bonnie and Monroe.

Spread your wings and glide free of pain,
Until the day I see you again.

God speed my precious angels. I love you. Mama.
Re: Question about PPP? [Re: SugarBlossoms] #613273
08/15/08 10:26 PM
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I thought Mike McGrath was the only one that did that! (I don't know if I spelled his name right or not.)
(PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets does that too?

I was going to say - if it's good for them at all, then instead of it all going to waste, they could have it donated to glider rescue centers.
It doesn't surprise me that it's not good for them, though.

Re: Question about PPP? [Re: konotashi] #613392
08/16/08 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted By: konotashi
I thought Mike McGrath was the only one that did that! (I don't know if I spelled his name right or not.)
(PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets does that too?

Yes (PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets does that too sadly. but like i said the very best thing we can do for those babies is just spread the word about mill breeds and how suggies really are. it will take God's right hand to get that kinda evil off this earth but it can happen. we just gotta wait for it and do the right thing till then.


Jessi
owned 6 suggies: Thor & Sophie, Sora & Riku, Kairi & Malachai
3 cats: Toboe, Data, and Maleficent


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Re: Question about PPP? [Re: morbidelf] #613557
08/16/08 12:46 PM
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If only everyone knew about them.... If everyone boycotted them, then they'd probably have no choice but to shut down.

Re: Question about PPP? [Re: morbidelf] #615169
08/18/08 01:31 PM
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No, my parents just bought one of their babies from them & I named her Bandit. I found out a month later on this board that the (PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets have onr\e named Bandit as well. My parents said they never remembered hearing a name used at the show so it was just a coincidensce(sp?)

Re: Question about PPP? [Re: konotashi] #615256
08/18/08 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted By: konotashi
Do you guys think that (PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets just finds random videos on Utube and puts them on their site? I found a video on there of a glider named Momonga, and that glider lives in Japan, I believe. (Since on the videos, it's written in Japanese), and I don't think (PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets has a facility in Japan. Or do they?

And a lot of the pictures on their site are easily found on Google or Photobucket.So do you guys think that they steal pictures and videos?
Because I have no idea....


Those videos are definitely not theirs. The videos of Momonga are by a member of sugarglider.com, who does live in Japan and is not affiliated with those people in any way. You can see other videos of Momonga at http://www.sugarglider.com/video/

As for pictures, these people have stolen pictures from us and many other people. Unfortunately, some of the pictures they've stolen are from people that don't post on forums anymore, so they're not aware of the issue. Anyone have a copyright lawyer in the family that's willing to work for free? If anyone is so inclined you could sift through the many, many, many pictures of gliders on GC and find matches on the sites of the people mentioned above. I really wish there was something we could do.

Re: Question about PPP? [Re: Eric Coleman] #615322
08/18/08 04:25 PM
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Oh.... Look at this little discovery....
http://sugar-gliders.com/sugar-glider-photos.htm

http://www.[nom_supported_site]/gallery.php

Anyone see what I see...?

(PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets is basically indestructable in all departmens, aren't they? Ugh.

Re: Question about PPP? [Re: konotashi] #615479
08/18/08 07:26 PM
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i dont see it. i'm blind but what is it? confused

Re: Question about PPP? [Re: Snoopurr] #616098
08/19/08 02:25 PM
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exactly what Im thinking. Im on the (PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets site right now. The only videos on here are in the family circle section which you cant get into unless you have bought a glider from them to get the current passcode. There are only 5 youtube videos all together & 4 of the 5 have Virgil the owner in the video. The 5th is 'how to set up travel cage' and the person doing it is from CCW because it is ther cage. So, I dont know what the problem is. Still photos may be a diff story, but I'd be as bold to say that more than half the sites on the web are using oter sites photos without permission. This thread has gotton out of hand over nothing!! We all know (PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets is a mill breeder and sells sick joeys with bad care info which is aweful & bad enough to want to shut them down, but blameing them for stuff they dont do, discredits the inititive that is rightfully trying to shut them down.

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