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Re: danger cooking with teflon while carrying gliders? [Re: SugarBlossoms] #835222
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again thanks for all the responses. I asked a simple question

Im new at this, I am a very responsible pet owner and Im doing my best to get these girls where they need to be on the right diet living space etc is it really necessary to keep repeating the same thing that has been said multiple times here?

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Re: danger cooking with teflon while carrying gliders? [Re: SugarBlossoms] #835224
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Avri....you wouldn't by any chance be a commission based sales person for Teflon are ya? Cuz it sure sounds like a sales pitch to me!

Re: danger cooking with teflon while carrying gliders? [Re: jag] #835254
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Originally Posted By: jag
again thanks for all the responses. I asked a simple question

Im new at this, I am a very responsible pet owner and Im doing my best to get these girls where they need to be on the right diet living space etc is it really necessary to keep repeating the same thing that has been said multiple times here?


Jag, it isn't really about you and your question any longer. Please don't take it personally.

You will see this often around here. Someone will ask a question which will start a healthy debate. People want to contribute their experiences and opinions, some people might disagree. The conversation/ discussion takes on a life of it's own - far after the original question has been answered.

The forum mods are good about making sure that a discussion does stick to the original topic - but it rarely sticks to just answering the original question.

Please don't get discouraged. It is just that you asked a question that got people thinking and wanting to talk about it.

And - thanks, Laurie. No kidding, right?


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Re: danger cooking with teflon while carrying gliders? [Re: ] #835255
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Originally Posted By: lovely1inred
How on earth does anyone manage to keep birds if this stuff is so toxic? How do you even know you have teflon if that is just the brand name, does that include ALL non-stick pans?


I use cast iron. It is non-stick, also, without the chemicals.

I just avoid all non-stick wares.


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Re: danger cooking with teflon while carrying gliders? [Re: ValkyrieMome] #835265
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Originally Posted By: jag
again thanks for all the responses. I asked a simple question

Im new at this, I am a very responsible pet owner and Im doing my best to get these girls where they need to be on the right diet living space etc is it really necessary to keep repeating the same thing that has been said multiple times here?


Jag, it isn't really about you and your question any longer. Please don't take it personally.

You will see this often around here. Someone will ask a question which will start a healthy debate. People want to contribute their experiences and opinions, some people might disagree. The conversation/ discussion takes on a life of it's own - far after the original question has been answered.

The forum mods are good about making sure that a discussion does stick to the original topic - but it rarely sticks to just answering the original question.

Please don't get discouraged. It is just that you asked a question that got people thinking and wanting to talk about it.

And - thanks, Laurie. No kidding, right?


thanks:)

Re: danger cooking with teflon while carrying gliders? [Re: jag] #835267
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I don't even like Teflon and I was ready to buy some....lol

There are lots of safe 'non stick' pans available these days without taking the chance of harming your pets. And, 'statistics' aside, if you've ever lost a pet while you're cooking your dinner, that's enough proof!

Re: danger cooking with teflon while carrying gliders? [Re: SugarBlossoms] #835529
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If I remember correctly, there is a certain temperature that the metal has to be before it starts emitting foul gas. The last Teflon product I received had a warning in THE PACKAGE OF THE PAN. SO I doubt you could really call that a myth.

Birds and small animals can be killed by much smaller amounts of chemicals because they are smaller, and birds cannot cough things out of their lungs since they don't have a diaphragm.

During Normal Cooking, the entire pan is not always filled, i.e. grilled cheese sandwich etc. causing some parts of the pan to become hotter than others. Any discoloration of the nonstick layer usually indicates that that area became hot enough for some of the chemicals to burn out of it at some point.

If you don't have your birds and smaller animals in the kitchen, then it will largely reduce the risks. You can't put the critter away, and deal with a flame up at the same time.

Re: danger cooking with teflon while carrying gliders? [Re: SeemsFamiliar] #835542
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Actually - according to the link I posted, gas starts being emitted as soon as the pan starts heating. And it reaches toxic levels at 240 degrees. Average heat for cooking, is low 200s to low 300s.

So - yeah....

People who decide to call it a myth can take their own chances! I'm sorry for their pets and children!


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Kyrie, nothing will ever fill the hole you left in my heart.
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