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Any Ideas on What might be happening Here??? #94675
04/13/06 09:04 AM
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When I went in the glider room just a minute ago to give Rocky a cricket the right side of his neck is swollen and hard.
I did not notice this last night. He acts fine. Cora


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Re: Any Ideas on What might be happening Here??? [Re: ] #94676
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Hi Cora,

Any kind of swelling or lump should get vet attention as soon as you can. It could be a number of things: bug/spider bite, a bite from another gliders etc.

Gliders have adapted to not showing any signs of stress or illness as a survival tool so just because he might 'seem' fine doesn't mean something more serious is going on.

Please keep us updated on him..

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My vet does have some openings today................the drive is long. I am going into work to see whats going on, tell them Rockys situation (everyone loves Rocky there at the Nursing Home) and get to the vet this afternoon. My exotic vet is Dr. Reese in Whitehouse, Texas. Rocky is just over 1 year oop and very bonded to me................if anything happens to him..........................The hole in my heart would be large.
.............................................Cora


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Re: Any Ideas on What might be happening Here??? [Re: ] #94678
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Please update us as soon as you have any information. Best wishes & hugs coming your way.


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Oh Cora! Please keep us posted. Sending lots of hugs and prayers your way. I'm sorry you have to go through this. *hugs* <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />

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Sending my thoughts to you and rocky and hoping everything will be just fine. Please let us know any updates. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />

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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> Please keep us posted on Rocky...he will be in my thoughts and prayers all day today too!
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Re: Any Ideas on What might be happening Here??? [Re: ] #94682
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I would agree with getting him in asap. Anything visible like that needs attention quickly. As well as a bite, it could also be an abscess or infection pocket in there..your vet might want to try and get a sample of any fluid that might be in there to culture as well, which will help target meds, and possibly relieve some of the pressure, depending on what is causing it. Please update as soon as you can.


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Re: Any Ideas on What might be happening Here??? [Re: ] #94683
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OK *breathes*. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/needhug.gif" alt="" /> The vet aspirated the growth. The cytology report indicated no cancer cells (but Dr. Reese said thats not always accurate) . He is treating it like an infection with SMZ TMP suspension twice a day and benebac gel ( for the gut bacteria while on antibiotic therapy). He says if it does not start going down he may have to remove it which is risky mosly because of the anasthesia for gliders (calculating it accurately). Our next appt. is next thursday @ 2:30 CST.
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/exclamation.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/exclamation.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/exclamation.gif" alt="" />Charlie or any one else if you have any experience with this sort of thing please please pm me your number so I can talk with you cause I am racked with worry.
Rocky is so tame ...no crabbing biting or anything through it all. The vet could not believe it. He also commented on healthy he looked.............................Cora

I will try to get a pic of it later..........................Cora


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Re: Any Ideas on What might be happening Here??? [Re: ] #94684
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Rocky and I welcome your thoughts and prayers.......Thank You!!!!!!!


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Re: Any Ideas on What might be happening Here??? [Re: ] #94685
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~hugs~ im so sorry Cora! Get well wishes and prayers have been said!

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Sending more prayers your way! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />

Re: Any Ideas on What might be happening Here??? [Re: ] #94688
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Cora, you can call us anytime, day/night, if you need to. That's what we're here for.

Like we said, it's extremely unlikely this is cancer...which usually takes a lot longer to form, and at that size would likely show on a cytology. This could be a bug bite, time will tell if the swelling goes down. You could try some children's benadryl... ask vet for dosage amt...and see if it helps with swelling. If a bug bite, it is an antihistamine, and should help, but won't hurt him if it's not.

Another very possible scenario, is one of his teeth...with the involvement of the neck, I would think a back tooth, either upper or lower jaw, could be either abscessed, or bacteria got in thru a scratch in the jaw, and this spread into the neck..building until it was noticeable. It could be any side tooth, but with neck involvement it's more likely it's farther back. The vet might or might not be able to see anything, but it's worth a look.

Regardless..you want him on meds at LEAST 3 or 4 days longer than there is symptoms...if ANY swelling remains, extend the course of meds. If you don't see any improvement in the next 24 to 48 hours, get him back in...sooner if it gets any worse. You could suggest to the vet a broader spectrum antibiotic like Baytril or Clavamox at that time, since TMP/SFX is a narrower spectrum and not as effective against as broad a range of bugs.

Here's the hug you asked for <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> - we know how scary this is for you. And remember you are welcome to call any time you need to.

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Re: Any Ideas on What might be happening Here??? [Re: ] #94689
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Thank you soooooooo much. I do feel a little better after our conversation. I put Rocky back in with Foamy. I will be keeping a close eye out for any changes. Cora


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Re: Any Ideas .....worsening [Re: ] #94690
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Well did not notice much change in the lump this morning.........but now it is a little bigger......even his throat is firm and slightly swollen like the lump. I left a message on the vets answering machine.........but no call back...............This is really worrying me............did I save him when he was young just to lose him now.........thats not fair!!!!!!!!!.........................................Cora

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Oh Cora,
I'm sorry the lump seems to be getting bigger.. but try to stay strong (I know that has to be hard to do right now <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />).

Now that there is swelling around his throat have you noticed how he is breathing?? Does it seem to be affecting him that way?
Do you have an emergency vet phone number you can call? Can you take him to an emergency vet?
Sending you hugs...

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I would get him to a vet asap. You say </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
but now it is a little bigger......even his throat is firm and slightly swollen like the lump.

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This could restrict his breathing, also the increase swelling may be a reaction to the meds causing anaphylaxis. You have Jen's number, she is very knowledgeable with abscess.


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Re: Any Ideas on What might be happening Here??? [Re: ] #94693
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I'm sorry Cora, I ran to get my boys some dinner. Get him into a 24 hour vet..print what I typed before, and take this one as well.

Since nothing was found, and he is now on meds...they will mess up test results if a bacteria. vet may need to shotgun...If he were mine, I would go with a stronger broad spectrum antiabiotic...either Clavamox or Clindamycin IN COMBINATION with Metronidazole...AND an anti-inflammatory of some kind. Ask for syringes if you don't have many, in case you have to force food/fluids. Ensure is easy to syringe feed-any flavor but chocolate. Have vet check for dehydration as well, and sub-q if necessary. I have a vet that will consult at this time of day if you need it...Dr. Emch or Dr. Matheson at Pet ER...801-277-9369, and my name is Jen Bailey...I believe the account there is under my husband's name..Ray Bailey. Find any vet willing to see him and take this with you. My cell if I'm ever not here is 435-640-9438


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Re: Any Ideas on What might be happening Here??? [Re: ] #94694
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Hey guys you are amazingly supportive.........thank you. Rocky took his meds without swollowing diff. he has no trouble breathing and is currently munching on an apple in the bonding pouch. He has had 3 doses of the antibiotic if he was going to go into anaphylactic shock from allergy to the med it would have already happened. Jen really is leaning towards a spider bite. I will keep you all posted.


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Re: Any Ideas on What might be happening Here??? [Re: ] #94695
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I am, because it is hardening, and spreading, so quickly. It is acting like a histamine reaction. A cyst or tumor takes time, and abcesses normally have enough fluid for a culture. This does not. Infection is possible...but usually wouldn't characterize itself this way, or visibly grow so fast..although it is possible, and could be diffused through the tissue, rather than fluid filled...i would put that lower on the list. A very unlikely thing, is that something got lodged, such as a small splinter of something, either from the outside, or in the throat, to cause this. Extremely unlikely, but not outside the realm of possibility. Benadryl may not be either strong enough, or targeted enough. A corticosteroid, such as prednisone, might be called for to slow/stop the swelling-If it is a bite..did it get him from the outside, or did he eat the thing, and it got him? A vet could maybe determine that. I'm not one, so this is my best guess based on experience. Hopefully someone will be willing to see him, and find out what is going on. Since it is still swelling, the meds he's on aren't doing the job...and the throat isn't somewhere you want it to keep going. Keep us updated on the little trooper, Cora. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />

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Wow, how stressful! Kudos to you taking such great care of Rocky and getting him the care he needs. You are a truly dedicated glider mommy!

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Oh Cora! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" /> I feel your pain. I know this is really hard on you, but you can get through it. I am sending both you and Rocky Hugs, and Prayers! Good Lcuk! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frostyangel.gif" alt="" />

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Cora,
You mentioned the veterinarian aspirated the swelling. That sounded like was fluid was removed. Although you mentioned no evidence of cancer in cytology review, you did not indicate what the fluid analysis otherwise showed. Exudate, pus, gram stain, culture?... surely some tests were run on it. Any follow-up?

Re: Any Ideas .....update [Re: ] #94699
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Rocky is no worse...................but no better as far as the swelling goes. He still acts normal. Dr, Reese said most likely the swelling to his neck area is from the needle stick.........causing seepage to that tissue. The entire area is moveable.......meanig if I touch the neck area where the swelling stops the whole area moves. He is not scratching at it or even acknowledging he has a problem. If this is not making much sense its cause I have been up and down all night checking on my cuteness...........and Im a little tired.
schlep the cytology report indicated WBC count was elevated. ....................Cora


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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> Cora, You are so wonderful for taking care of Rocky like this. I'm happy that he is no worse and praying that he will start to improve very soon. Try to get some rest and know that we are here for you <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />.

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*hugs* I'm so glad he's not worse. Keep up the good work. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />

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You didn't mention gram stain results, which would usually be done. Sometimes that helps your doc decide which antibiotic to choose.

If WBC's were present, it is hard to support any other diagnosis than infection being present (abscess). Even a fluid cyst or cystic hygroma or any other original cause of the fluid that now has WBC's has likely become secondarily infected. If that fluid collection or a boggy feeling is still present, then so is the germ and infection most likely. It is almost impossible to clear an abscess with an oral antibiotic without aggressive drainage to de-bulk the infection. One just can't get adequate antibiotic levels in such a fluid space.

If the swelling persists and your veterinarian wants to needle it or open it with a tiny incision and drain it, I would let him/her do it. Without doing so, it is not likely to heal, or if it does it is a much longer process with risk of infection spreading and causing other complications.

Good luck.

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Thanks, Schlep. That was my first thougt, but then the vet couldn't get much fluid out with the needle. I always feel better when you get in here, let me tell you. With all the spiders around lately, that was really possible. Could this have diffusion in there as well, with a small center? Would that require a tube or something while the fluid works it way out of the tissue, or the vet to continue reopening it/keeping it open for it to drain? Sorry, just trying to learn, and concerned for the little guy. With white blood cells, infection is definitely there..do you think the meds would work better in combination with drainage, and that's why it's still getting bigger...or if meds need changed in addition?


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I don't think it should be massaged and I asked Bruce and he agrees. It could spread or irritate whatever is going on. As far as the warm compresses if it's a cystic hygrona it could make it worse.

Please keep us posted.


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Yiikkess!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> I'm going to remove my bad advice..sorry.

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Not to worry. We are all here to learn and help folks. It just means you care. If there is some advice that may not be just right someone will catch it. I just go back to my nursing days and what we did and I just happen to have a DR. at home lol.

Schlep don't go away. Bruce was so glad to see you post and what you posted.


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Cora,
First off, let me send you my deepest sympathy during your time of stress, and admiration for addressing it so responsibly. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />
You mentioned how bonded Much Rocky is to you <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" /> and how he didn't crab or aything at the vet's; I'm so envious and also hopeful that everything turns out ok. I've had my gliders about 2 weeks, and I was wondering how long it took you to reach such a great realtionship with Rocky? It sounds like what I am hoping for with my girls... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frostyangel.gif" alt="" />

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OK..................Here are some pics of the lump and some rarely seen photos of me tonight with my "Rock Rock") I love him so much. some may ask about the bonding.......time and patience is my answer and many many hours with your little furry friend.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/angelfish_37/DSCN0706.jpg
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Rocky is just a little over 1 yr. OOP . April 30th will be our year anniversary together. Cora


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Could it be related to his scent gland?


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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worried2.gif" alt="" /> That is so strange...I am leaning towards something with the teeth <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nixweiss.gif" alt="" />...gosh, I just hope Rocky gets better soon!!!

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I don't know if an experience of mine is anything similar or not but @ 6 years ago I discovered a "lump" on my Bobbie Girls chest that seemed to have appeared over night. We rushed to the vets & ended up having it surgically removed & tested. It turned out that it was just fatty tissue and Bobbie recovered quickly from her surgery. I'm hoping & praying that Rocky's lump is something as innocuous as Bobbie's was. (((((HUGS)))))


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We can hope it is, but white blood cells mean the immune system is reacting to an invader of some kind to fight it. I hope at least it isn't getting any bigger.

Cora, I got home from the vet, and there was a call from you on the machine. Call back any time...I'm sorry I wasn't here, and don't want to wake you at 3 am (I think 4 your time).

How's the little guy doing now?


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Well it seems to be the same. No better and no worse. He still acts fine, eating, drinking, playing, etc. Meds givin.
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Those are nice pictures. Rocky certainly looks bright-eyed and healthy.

I would agree I would not massage an infected fluid collection for fear of spreading it out into other tissue planes. If a drainage tract was present and one could very gently express the fluid and pus to the outside, I would. But I wouldn't try to put the fluid under much pressure.

A fatty tumor under the skin can happen. Overfed dogs get them easily, (as do old men.) But that wouldn't feel boggy and deformable like fluid does (think water balloon). They tend to be hard - almost rubbery. And as mentioned above, they shouldn't be infiltrated with white cells.

Although he looks healthy, that mass isn't normal. Without getting some of it, it is hard to make a specific and correct diagnosis. Without an accurate diagnosis, one can't pick a proper treatment plan that would be expected to work.

Obviously the plan and decisions are up to you and your veterinarian. If he were mine, I'd go get it. As long as they are in there, take it all if it is solid tissue. If fluid, drain and culture. The good news that is that it is in an area hard to get to chew on, no E-collar needed. Nails and scratching could pose a problem while healing. In this specific situation, if it were causing him discomfort, the Neosporin with numbing activity might be helpful. I see little risk and would personally use it.

Good luck.

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I take Rocky back to the vet tomorrow. The lump is the same. Other than the lump he seems fine. Cora


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Hey Cora <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />
You might want to take schlep's post with you and see what the vet thinks along those lines as well. At least it isn't getting any worse. If there is fluid inside, a culture might be valuable as well, even though it takes a few days for results, so if there are bacteria, you can find out exactly what kind and how to target it...let us know what he says.


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OK....................I printed out shleps posts.......................thank you for your input schlep!!!!!!
I dont know what time I will be back from the vet. Guess it depends on what he does. I will post when I get back!! Wish us luck!!!..................................Cora


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Poor sweetie <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> hope it gets resolved soon

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Rocky weighs the same............130grams. Dr. Reese is going to remove the lump next wed. at 8am. He understands how important Rocky is to me.....................I made that very clear. So its just a waiting game and continue the antibiotic til next week. ...........................Cora


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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />Cora, thank you for the continued updates,
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />...Cora, we will be waiting with you...thank you for the updates!
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Hugs hugs and more hugs to you and Rocky. It does remind me looking at his pictures of a spider bite I got years ago. It took MONTHS for it to go away and alot of antibiotics. I wish you lots of luck and am sending prayers out to you and Rocky. Please keep us posted!


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Cora, how incredibly stressed you must be feeling! But at least now you have a viable game plan.

Sending hugs <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> and prayers to you and Rocky. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" />


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I could have swore I replied to this yesterday...but I've lost a couple posts now, the last few days, lol, so not much surprises me at this point. Keep us updated and let us know how it goes at the vet. At least you won't have to worry about an ecollar...but you'll have to watch he doesn't scratch it too much and tear it open. Thanks for the update. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />


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I bought Rocky a cage today since he will not be able to be left with Foamy (his cagemate) after his operation. I am so worried for him about this whole thing........................poor guy dont even know whats coming!!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" />
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Everyone always seems to want to separate cage mates at surgery. I'm not so sure there wouldn't be less stress leaving them together. I would be surprised if a buddy bothered a surgical wound. I would worry more about self-mutilation from the patient. If it goes OK during an initial observation period, I'd leave them together.

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Cora, I just wanted to send well-wishes to you and Rocky. Poor little guy. I hope everything goes very well Wednesday and he recovers without difficulty.

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Rocky is currently on the operating table. Will update when its over.
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My prayers are with both of you,,,


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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> (((HUGS))) and prayers <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />
Thank you for letting us know..

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Cora, you and Rocky have a TON of prayers coming your way. I'll be anxiously waiting to hear how he is doing.


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Thank You all so much..............Just got a call from the vet................Rockys surgery was successful and he is waking up from the surgery. I can pick him up today after 3 pm. YAY...................................The lump will be sent off for hystopathy....................................................Cora


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Thats excelent news!! Im sure he will be happy to see you! Your both in my thoughts and prayers! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />

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Yay! I'm so glad the surgery went well. ~hugs~

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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/multi.gif" alt="" /> Yippiee!!! Great news!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/multi.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/party.gif" alt="" />

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That's good to hear, Cora. Keep us updated. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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Well I have him back home. The front neck area is open and there are a couple stitches on the right side of his neck. Overgrooming will certainly be an issue and that is why I have chosen not to put him back in with his mate at this time. The large tumor was removed. Dr. Reese said it was encapsulated and not branching out everywhere which indicates it may be benign however the histopathology was sent off and the results should be in next week. They had to give him some anasthetic recovery to pull him out of anesthesia. I have pain meds, antibiotics and benebac to give. The cost was 324.99.............................who can put a price on love??????? You cant!!!!!......................Cora


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Cora, thanks for keeping us updated. We're rooting for Rocky's speedy and complete recovery, and that the tumor is indeed benign. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />


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Rocky is doing really well. He and Foamy are back together in the same pouch (I only seperated them for a few days). The lab results should be in wed. or thurs. The vet will remove his stitches mon. afternoon................Thanks again for your prayers and suggestions and well wishes..................Cora


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Unfortunately the result is not as good as we would all hope for...... Lymphoma. The vet was able to remove all of it so he is consulting with another vet whether or not to do chemotherapy....................I am not so sure I want to put him through that...........my emotions are running rampid right now.................................anyone else have any thoughts on this?????? Cora


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My prayers go out to you and Rocky. Here is the email of a member that has dealt with cancer in gliders. Maybe she can give you some help and insight. Darcy's diet came about for one of her sick gliders. Good luck and lots of hugs <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" /> []saharanfox@hotmail.com[/]

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Cora, im so sorry you have to go through this <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />. I'll be keeping you and Rocky in my thoughts and prayers <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />. Best of luck!

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So sorry to here this... sending you both ... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />


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Carrie T thanks so much for that email addy. She has a glider diagnosed with Hodgekins Lymphoma in 2002. That gives me a little hope. But I know each case is prob. different. How common is this in gliders ........anyone know????
Thank you everyone for your well wishes and prayers..........it means alot to Rocky and I. Cora


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I certainly wish your 'Rocky' the very best!

I will need to look thru a few books

Neoplasia especially lymphoid neoplasia (50% of reported neoplasms)is relatively common in captive gliders - from what I see this includes captive squirrel glider's, Greater glider's & sugar gliders.

An article that was sent to me from Australia, several years back (1991 - I believe)
'Cutaneous lymphosarcoma in a sugar glider'
(but this case was unusual)


:grey: We will be known forever by the tracks we leave :grey:

Re: Rockys Diagnosis [Re: Devil_Bunny_Girl] #94750
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Do contact saharanfox as well... her glider Lord Darcy (who Darcy's diet with the Ensure was named for) is currently in remission with Lymphoma-has had it for a few years, but is still going. She is the only one I know of (there could be others, I just don't know of them) who has dealt with this, and done so long term. She would have quite a bit of experience with treatment options, daily care, diet, etc. Keep us updated on the little guy! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />


Jen/Colin :bb: Commander Riker 12 16 02-10 04 12 you will be FOREVER missed :wfb: Sinbad, :wfb: Gabby, :grey: Baby, and :grey: Alley
Re: Rockys Diagnosis [Re: ] #94751
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If Lord Darcy should ever require a little extra info/help, I have contact with some excellent vet sources - from the Land Down Under who may be able to assist Saharanfox or her vet

Yes I know of her diet & she probably knows of my PML (lol)

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Re: Rockys Diagnosis [Re: Devil_Bunny_Girl] #94752
05/14/06 05:20 PM
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Pockets-you sent me some excellent info as well for Riker...I'm sure you and your vets could offer some valuable resources. I seem yo have skipped reading a post there last night, lol, you'd already gotten that, so just disregard. I'm not able to offer much when it comes to a disease like this, tho I wish I could.


Jen/Colin :bb: Commander Riker 12 16 02-10 04 12 you will be FOREVER missed :wfb: Sinbad, :wfb: Gabby, :grey: Baby, and :grey: Alley
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05/18/06 11:29 PM
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Since last night Rocky seems to have developed HLP symptoms. It is clear both of his back legs are paralyzed and feet are curled up. Just since last night!!!! He ate a tablespoon of diluted BML and about 8 mealies earlier. I have contacted the vet and cried and cried. My goal is to keep Rocky as comfortable as possible. I do not think he is hurting but I have pain meds on hand if need be. He is not dehydrated............I did the tent test. I am just letting yall know how he is..................an update.
...............................................................Cora


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Re: Rocky is Declining [Re: ] #94754
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Cora, I'm so sorry you and Rocky are having to go through this. I wish I could help. Just keep loving on him and letting him know that you care and that you are with him. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />


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Illusion, Malcom, Isabell, Annabelle, Zach, Isis, Aly & Indy
AND Miss Emmy & Miss Chloe kitties

:rbridge: My Angels: You are always in my heart.

You've flown to the rainbow
and wait there for me
Someday I will join you
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OMG i am so sorry to hear this. Like Chris said, just keep on loving him. I cant even imagine what you must be going through. Sending you tons of hugs <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />

Re: Rocky is Declining [Re: ] #94756
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I am so sorry, I wish I had better words but I know there really aren't any words of comfort when one of your kids is so sick. Just know that there are many people thinking of both of you.
~Gretchen


~Gretchen

If we never loved, then maybe we would never feel pain. Love anyway. It's worth it.
Re: Rocky is Declining [Re: ] #94757
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I'm praying for Rocky and you too. I'm so sad for you both. Maybe he needs the calcium injections? God, I hope he is okay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Keeper of Handprints on my Heart, You left your Footprints on my soul.
My precious loves that left to quickly, Peanut, Katie
Isabella, Kiwi, Bonnie and Monroe.

Spread your wings and glide free of pain,
Until the day I see you again.

God speed my precious angels. I love you. Mama.
Re: Rocky is Declining [Re: ] #94758
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Oh, Cora! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> Yes, there are lots of us collectively praying for you and Rocky, for your comfort. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" />


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• 2002: Keiko (F) + 2003: Hiroshi (M) = 2004: joey Tomoki (M)
• 2009: Sammy (F), Charlie (F), Murray (M), Herbie (M)
• 2010: BJ (M)
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I'm a new mommy and I already understand. My thoughts are with you and Rocky right now too.... sending you lots of love and prayers <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/muchlove.gif" alt="" />

Re: Rocky is Declining [Re: ] #94760
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Sometimes just loving them is the best thing you can do. If he leaves for the Bridge...he will know how much you cared and remember you. Know we are here for you, and you did your best for him. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />


Jen/Colin :bb: Commander Riker 12 16 02-10 04 12 you will be FOREVER missed :wfb: Sinbad, :wfb: Gabby, :grey: Baby, and :grey: Alley
Re: Rocky is Declining [Re: ] #94761
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Thank you guys so much for your support and prayers. Rocky ate some mealies this morning...............condition unchanged. He and Foamy have been snuggled in the pouch together. I work around the death and dying and he has that destinct smell of death. He does not seem to be in any discomfort. This is just not fair we were supposed to have years together noy just 1 year. But what a good year it was. His eye is on the sparrow........................


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This story is so heartbreaking. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> I do hope you both the best and know that my prayers are being sent Rocky and your way. You are so dedicated to him and I commend you for all that you have done. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />

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I am so sorry to hear what you and Rocky are going through it is so heart breaking, I am crying just reading it, my thoughts are with you both <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />

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I am praying for you both

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A long time ago, our cat was to the point that we had to put him to sleep. Mom always visited him at the vet and put in my dad's slippers that he loved chewing up. The vet was amazed that he survived and he said the only medicine that probably did the job was love. To love on him is all he needs. I'm praying for you both.
~Barbie, Kiki, Canella, and joey. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />

Re: Rocky is Declining [Re: ] #94766
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Mods u can close this thread I will post a tribute to Rocky in Real Stories later. went to the vet and x-ray revealed metastis to his hips legs and abdomen. He was euthanized at 4pm...................................Cora <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Rocky is Declining [Re: ] #94767
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Oh Cora, I am so very sorry!! Many hugs and prayers are being sent to you!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />


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T & B ~my bio babies
N,C,G & H ~ step babies
Wraith & Rayna and soon to be Izzy & Ali~Gliderbabies
Max ~ my German Shepherd
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" />I'm so very sorry to hear this. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />

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