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swollen feet and getting raw #187124
12/17/06 11:26 AM
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I have talked to a lot of great people on the phone throughout the night.No one seems to know what it could possibvly be.This is the same baby I talked to you guys about before,Cassie.She started out with hlp,been taking her to the vet,on Friday afternoon her feet had started to swell and started getting raw.Ive watched her and she is just licking them.Everything else is fine with her,I am considering putting her on the RR,I dont want to, but if I have to do it to save her I will.It breaks my heart.I really love this little girl.Does anybody possibly know what it could be?

Re: swollen feet and getting raw [Re: ] #187125
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Swollen, raw joints is one of the symptoms of HLP. What type of treatment is she on for the HLP? Was MetaCam prescribed? If not, it needs to be ASAP because it is a pain medication and also an anti-inflammatory. Bring her to the vet RIGHT AWAY! If her feet get too painful, she could start to SM...
My Pika had HLP and the swollen fingers and toes were one of the symptoms she experienced. It is very painful for the glider.


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Re: swollen feet and getting raw [Re: ] #187126
12/17/06 11:33 AM
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Did your vet have any idea what was going on with her when you saw them on Friday? Are her feet pink still, or a darker color? Sorry about not giving much advice, but we need a few more details here.


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Re: swollen feet and getting raw [Re: glidrz5] #187127
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no her feet wasnt like that on friday.he gave her cal injec. and gave me some to give her at home.he did not give any pain meds

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her feet are a bright pink

Re: swollen feet and getting raw [Re: glidrz5] #187129
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FYI, Here's a picture of Pika's hand when it was at its worst. The Metacam helped tremendously with reducing the swelling and making her more comfortable.


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Re: swollen feet and getting raw [Re: sugarglidersuz] #187131
12/17/06 11:38 AM
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Please get some MetaCam from your vet for her right away. Don't delay! I can not emphasize enough the amount of pain she is in right now...


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Re: swollen feet and getting raw [Re: sugarglidersuz] #187132
12/17/06 11:39 AM
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oh my god that is exactly what hers look like

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oh my god that is exactly what hers look like

Re: swollen feet and getting raw [Re: ] #187134
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Please call your vet right away & get the Metacam for her... Let us know when you get back and keep us updated, please.
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Re: swollen feet and getting raw [Re: sugarglidersuz] #187135
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oh thankyou so much,god bless you .you are the only one that knew.

Re: swollen feet and getting raw [Re: ] #187138
12/17/06 11:46 AM
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You're very welcome. God Bless!


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Re: swollen feet and getting raw [Re: ] #187140
12/17/06 11:50 AM
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She absolutely needs the vet.

Please offer pedialyte or glideraide immediately.

Please thin any protein supplement you are giving her, like ensure, with one half pedialyte. Electolyte imbalance and too high a protein:fluid balance can overload the system with protein and cause this. Calcium and electrolyte imbalance can cause this.

Godspeed

Angel

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Shady,
I hope you reconcider the help that was offered to you. We all tried to help get Her to a vet last night. I understand you are upset and wondering what happened to her.
Please keep us updated on Her progress.

Your WSGN family

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Is there any updates. I am concerned.

Thank you suz for the pictures and knowledge here in this area. I hope that this also helps others as well. I pray that everything works out okay.

Re: swollen feet and getting raw [Re: ] #187189
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Were you able to get this glider to a vet for some Metacam? Please post an update for us...
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Re: swollen feet and getting raw [Re: ] #187192
12/17/06 02:31 PM
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Ok, I have been working with Judy on Cassie's condition since she brought her home. I contacted MaryH and we were working on a treatment plan for Cassie when the condition changed after beeing seen on thursday. Her feet and toes begain to swell. Judy believes the vet drew blood from this area. She has started to lick continuasly and has develpoed raw areas. I told her it was due to the HLP and her leggs were probably having strange sensations,and needed to be on baytril asap and that she needed to have a fecal float and smear done. This could not wait any longer as she was worsening. I am not a vet not do I portray to be one. Cassie was lathargic and dehydrated. I walked her threw a sub-q of 1cc and the feeding process. I told her to give a small amount of honey on the tip of her finger. I called psycosissy at work and explained the situation to her. We needed to act asap on this as Cassie was crashing fast.psycosissy did everything she could while being at work, she was very limited. sissy called luvmysuggies and then inturn luvmysuggies contacted Vanessa. After around an hour or so luvmysuggies had the RR complete.Vanessa offered to take over her care, weather it was temporary or permanant was at the discression of the two parties. I remained on the phone with Judy as she was very upset about her babie. psycosissy and I waited patiently as we could. sissy still at work waiting to hear the news. We lost contact with Judy for a few hours. I spoke to her this morning and she said cassie ate and went potty. Her condition was the same. She had a vet appt. this morning and would let me know what is next.
Thanks for all you help.

Re: swollen feet and getting raw [Re: ] #187194
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Korasmommy,
Thank you for the background info on this glider and her condition. I doubt that the vet drew blood from the hands and feet - possibly from the leg, but not from the hands and feet. The swelling is in all likelihood due to the HLP and does need to be treated with a pain med/anti-inflammatory to reduce the swelling. Although I am not a vet, nor do I profess to be one either, I do know that this is the treatment necessary for the type of swelling involved with HLP based on my experiences with Pika a year ago. Hopefully Cassie's vet will concur and prescribe the Metacam (or another alternative) for her...


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Re: swollen feet and getting raw [Re: sugarglidersuz] #187212
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I am glad we were able to help with this baby.
I will keep Cassie adn Shady in my thoughts as I go to work again.
I will check in to see if there is any new updates throughout the night.
I must say I am very pleased 2 boards are working together for the sake of Cassie and Shady.
Know we care for you and your glider in this time of need.

Re: swollen feet and getting raw [Re: ] #187219
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I must say I am very pleased 2 boards are working together for the sake of Cassie and Shady.

I couldn't agree more! It's great to see boards working together for the "good of the glider" thumb


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Re: swollen feet and getting raw [Re: sugarglidersuz] #187260
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Judy has been threw alot with this lil girl. She recieved them from a underage girl. She has the mom, and the brother to Cassie. When Judy recieved these she was told the daddy had died. This was from the neglect of the owner and her dog. Judy bless her heart had brought these babies into her home not knowing she had already been having signs of HLP. We all know how to and what if, but when it comes down to our own babies, we do tend to forget everything we know. This is normal. Judy and her husband do the best they can for their babies, and I applaud that.

I am very proud of Judy. I have seen some wonderful pictures of her sugar's and Judy. She does love them and cares for them. And they are beautiful. I will continue to offer and give all my support and prayers to Judy and Cassie

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Ok, I was asked by Judy to give update on baby Cassie. Judy has returned from the vet's visit. He has performed the fecal float and smear. X rays, and she said a few other tests. They have started her on both the metacam and baytril. He said her health looked pretty well. She will get the test results as they come in and let use know what they show. The swelling has gone down in one of her feet already. The feet are still raw from grooming and scraping. Judy said there was a small [censored] hole in her ankle, but undetermined if last vet drew blood from there. She was told to ask the previous vet. Other than that she seem comfortable and in good spirits.
I will continue to pray for Cassie's recovery and offer all my support.

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i'm so sorry of all what happened! but very glad to hear its a good progression!... you and her will be in m prayers tonight

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Thank you for the update. I'm glad to hear that Cassie is now on Metacam and Baytril. Still keeping Judy & Cassie in my prayers and let me know if I can be of further help...
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Re: swollen feet and getting raw [Re: sugarglidersuz] #190791
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Baby Cassie has been doing better untill this morning. Judy went in and found Cassie bloody. She has been chewing her foot, this is the foot where the vet said he had drawn blood from. She has finished all her batryl and is still giving her the metacam. She has applied neosporin to the open area and wrapped it up.I have been in contact with Vanessa, but we are needing lots of prayers and to find Kathy. With it being Christmas Eve, so many people are out of town and are un reachable. Judy and I have been trying to set up a RR to get her here to my house in Kansas with no luck. Judy is afraid that Cassie is not going to last much longer with out help. Please if anyone can help Judy pm me and lets help this little girl. Thanks Kora

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If any one is traveling to texas, Kansas or is in tenn please lets get this little girl some help. You can contact AngieH she is willing to house, MaryH is willing to house, I am willing to house. Please anyone

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I wish there was some way I could help out with getting her to one of you. Thank you for everything that you've been doing to help Judy out. hug2


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Re: swollen feet and getting raw [Re: sugarglidersuz] #190802
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I need to try to contact Wanda
Please anyone with her phone # she live in levenon and Judy lives in franklin tenn. anyone pm me

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Kora I have Leigha on the line she is going to help us....
She has Wandas number and will call Wanda...She will call me back

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I also got ahold of wanda and unless you still need me I will let you gals take care of this baby. Wanda has my number if you need.


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