This technique "could work with a normal biter but a pit bull biter umm no way!! Even now if I tried to touch my Buffys head I fell she would bite me.

I understand..... and luckily my Shumway is only a soft nibbler. I have tired the head touch thing with a no and it has worked so far with Shumway..... now his twin brother Braum is a different story all together.

If you have a serious biter, one that is an extreme to what the normal people can work through, please, please read the post in special needs forum titled "Pit Bull Biter Advice needed" read the thread from beginning to end, it really has opened some new wonderful doors for many, many gliders.