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Sugar Cane #328554
06/30/07 10:13 PM
06/30/07 10:13 PM

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Hey guys, I was at the store today and saw natural 100% sugar cane sticks. I've read that the eat this in the wild, but would it be okay to give her some? Can she CHEW on the actual stick?

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Re: Sugar Cane [Re: ] #328555
06/30/07 10:15 PM
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I have given them sugar cane before...just don't over do it. I kind of doubt they eat that in the wild, but I'm not sure. They love the stuff! smile Come on...who doesn't like pure sugar?!

Re: Sugar Cane [Re: ] #331970
07/05/07 10:12 PM
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So how much do you give them?

Re: Sugar Cane [Re: ] #331978
07/05/07 10:22 PM
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why would you doubt that they ate it in the wild?? it is native to new guinea and grows in australia as well.. i would think that their natural affinity for sweets would make them LOVE the sugar canes in the wild.

Re: Sugar Cane [Re: ] #331985
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Hmm, you now I never thought of giving them raw sugar cane! great idea!


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Re: Sugar Cane [Re: GliderLove] #332011
07/05/07 11:30 PM
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Sugar gliders live in the canopy of the rainforest, and the forest floor is almost completely bare becuse of the lack of sunlight. I would think that sugar cane wouldn't be able to grow where gliders live (becuase sugar cane is the kind of plant that grows in a field with direct sunlight), but I could definitely be wrong.

Re: Sugar Cane [Re: ] #332041
07/06/07 12:31 AM
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I read that suggies can live in forest densities as little as 1 tree for 1000 sq. meters.. so i would think sugar cane could be available there.. plus, i have no idea if sugar cane can live in a less dense forest, but a forest none the less...

Re: Sugar Cane [Re: ] #332959
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one thing you need to be very careful of with sugar cane is mold. even the little pre-packaged sticks can have mold on them!

Re: Sugar Cane [Re: BeckiT] #336101
07/11/07 12:12 PM
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In New Guinea, sugar cane is a large part of the gliders diet, otherwise known as lowland pitpit (Saccharum edule). However, I personally wouldn't feed it in captivity because of the high sugar diets commonly used.

Re: Sugar Cane [Re: ] #336292
07/11/07 05:33 PM
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I let mine chew on sugar cane a couple of times. I didn't keep it long because as stated above, it started to turn pretty quick. They LOVED it. I will probably let them have it again soon. It's a nice once-in-a-while treat.

Re: Sugar Cane [Re: ] #336340
07/11/07 06:17 PM
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would it be possible to freeze it so that it keeps it fresher?


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Re: Sugar Cane [Re: ] #336347
07/11/07 06:22 PM
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Quote:
In New Guinea, sugar cane is a large part of the gliders diet, otherwise known as lowland pitpit (Saccharum edule).


Can you tell me how you know this?

Re: Sugar Cane [Re: ] #336380
07/11/07 06:59 PM
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I feed mine sugar cane i give them a whole 6 in piece of cane and they rip it to shreads. I buy one whole stalk of sugar cane and divide it between all my cages. They love it I only do it about once a month though.

Re: Sugar Cane [Re: ] #336806
07/12/07 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted By: TheGliderPouch
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In New Guinea, sugar cane is a large part of the gliders diet, otherwise known as lowland pitpit (Saccharum edule).


Can you tell me how you know this?


Yep, I do lots of reasearch, I tend to take information on websites and most forums with a pinch of salt and I buy decent books.

Re: Sugar Cane [Re: ] #337364
07/12/07 08:56 PM
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If you think that sugar cane is a large part of the glider diet in the wild, why wouldn't you feed it as a large part of the captive diet? Shouldn't the captive diet mimic the wild diet as much as possible? Saccharum edule isn't actually sugar cane - it is similar though. In the wild, gliders feed off of eucalyptus sap and acacia gum. When insects are available (spring and summer), gliders will feed almost entirely off of insects alone. IF sugar cane grows in the glider's natural habitat, they would most likely not eat it at all because it doesn't meet a nutritional need.

I would still like to know the source of the information you posted earlier if you know exactly where it's from ...

Re: Sugar Cane [Re: ] #337367
07/12/07 09:02 PM
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How would sugar cane not fit into their dietary needs? I mean they have high metabolisms, that's why they eat nectar, so wouldn't sugar cane fit that same purpose? Easy expendable carbohydrate energy?

And *I* have read that the assumption that they feed almost entirely off of insects in the spring/summer is not true.

There's probably a lot of differing info out there...

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07/12/07 09:16 PM
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And *I* have read that the assumption that they feed almost entirely off of insects in the spring/summer is not true.


In all of the glider books that I have read, insects are a LARGE part of the wild glider diet. Where have you read differently?

Re: Sugar Cane [Re: ] #337376
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smile I'll go find it ma'am!

Not saying you're right or I'm right, just something I read!

Stand by...

Re: Sugar Cane [Re: ] #337381
07/12/07 09:23 PM
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Sorry smile - not trying to be argumentative...just want the facts.

Re: Sugar Cane [Re: ] #337491
07/12/07 11:38 PM
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I know that I read from one book (keep in mind, I didn't like much of the advise given in said book!) that they breed in the wild during the seasons when insects are abundant for the extra protein. It didn't say whether they feed primarily on them or not though.

Daniel

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07/12/07 11:50 PM
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Re: Sugar Cane [Re: ] #337520
07/13/07 12:02 AM
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Wow! - that is long!...I don't have time to read it all right now, but could you tell me the general conclusion?

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07/13/07 12:32 AM
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LoL sorry TheGliderPouch -- I was going to read it for you and give you an outline of it, but you weren't kidding. That is LONG! smile

Daniel

Re: Sugar Cane [Re: ] #337658
07/13/07 08:13 AM
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Gliders from different latitudes have slightly different diets. I wouldn't feed sugarcane as part of the captive diet because of the high amount of sugar they are already getting from honey for instance.

Saccarum edule is a species of sugar cane see HERE, also insects are not always used as the main protein source during lactation, Gliders found in Northern Australia use pollen as their main protein source for reproduction. In Victoria arthropods are the main protein source for reproduction.

Unfortunately because no one knows EXACTLY what location captive suggies are from, we have to generalise the diet by taking out what we feel is unsuitable/detrimental to heath ot to teeth and gums, and we utilise what we feel works and what appears to be working for them.

Gliderpouch, just out of curiosity what glider books are you reading? Are you reading the Sugar Glider as your pet type, or those written by scientists who have studied wild suggies in differing locations?

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Originally Posted By: ThePastafarian
How would sugar cane not fit into their dietary needs? I mean they have high metabolisms, that's why they eat nectar, so wouldn't sugar cane fit that same purpose? Easy expendable carbohydrate energy?

And *I* have read that the assumption that they feed almost entirely off of insects in the spring/summer is not true.

There's probably a lot of differing info out there...


Yes they do have high metabolisms, but you need to bear in mind that the figures are from wild suggies who would expend and therefore require more calories. Our captive suggies are in their cages, they come out to play sure, but it's not like travelling to food sites or having to go into torpor when the weather is bad, or defending food sites against other colonies.


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