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Healesville Diet Nutritional Analysis (Version 1) #387645
09/26/07 04:16 PM
09/26/07 04:16 PM
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Van Alstyne, Texas
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This analysis is in the same format as previous publications. It includes the daily prescription plus normalized amounts of all of the supplements in order to show the nutritional value of an average "serving" based on a seven day cycle.

http://www.glidercentral.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=105544&g2_navId=xa6421715

Please note that there will be additional versions of this analysis. This is only the initial one. Our friend Sue who has contacts with Healesville Sanctuary will be talking to them about the pollen amounts and she will also be sending the ingredients for the chow she uses in case people are not using ecopet and eukanuba.

Here are the assumptions used in this analysis:

1. The ingredients used were found on page 22 and in the appendix of the 178-page document entitled "Healesville Sanctuary diets" dated August, 2006.

2. In the nectarmix.xls spreadsheet, rice cereal is being used for the cereal component, Calcivet for the calcium/D3/mg component, Soluvet for the multi-vitamin, regular filtered (US, not AU) clover honey, and three eggs. The nectar amount was calculated first at the 2 liter (batch) level and then broken down to the individual 3ml serving level.

3. For "Dog Chow / Advance" I am using Using Eukanuba Adult chow (lamb rice) this has virtually the same nutritive value as the other Eukanuba Adult formulas.

4. For fruit component, Papaya is being used.

5. Nectar - a separate spreadsheet was used to calculate the Nectar and those values were then rolled into the main spreadsheet.

6. For the fly pupae I am using statistics from Oregon Feeder Insects based on pupae I have ordered from them. The species is Musca domestica (common housefly).

7. Corn assumption is regular white corn.

8. Sprouts, using nutritive value of mung bean sprouts as the baseline - one of the sprouts used in the appendix.

9. Mealworms based on the assumption that 2 mealworms weigh .28 grams

10. Pollen. Using Jarrah Tree pollen granuels as the basis. 1,200 granules per tablespoon. All nutritive calculations based on 5 granuels per week the sum of which was divided by 7 to normalize the amount over one week.

11. Sultanas "3 sultanas - 3-4 times per week" (using 10 count divided by seven to get a normalized serving amount)

12. Sunflower Seeds - using 15 seeds per gram average / two seeds = 0.13333 g

13. For "Pet Health Food" using Ecopet. Company confirmed "one cube" is taken from regular roles. Using 1 gram serving divided by 7 to normalize over one week

14. "1 almond - once per week" (Per Week Amount averaged over 7 days to get "serving")

15. Insects - 3-4 times per week (e.g., moths) (USING 4 @ .5 g - 4 divided by 7 days as "serving") Based on larvae of Silk Moths (Bombyx Mori).

16. Blossums "Acacia, eucalypts, other blossoms as available." Using Corymbia calophylla (Marri)@ 27.8 % crude protein and Acacia stereophylla (wodgil) @ 25.9 % crude protein for an average of 26.85% crude protein. Using Jarrah as basis for non-protein, non-carb components.

17. Most sources for common household foods were derived from nutritondata.com. Other sources are various and include the distributor or manufacturer data published with product literature (ecopet, eukanuba, calcivet, soulivet, etc.)

If you want the source spreadsheets that show the individual analysis for each ingredient, email us at LuckyGlider@sugarglider.com


Lucky_Glider
Lucky Glider Rescue & Sanctuary
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Re: Healesville Diet Nutritional Analysis (Version 1) [Re: Lucky_Glider] #388955
09/28/07 08:47 PM
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Wow, Ed! What an incredible amount of work this is! Thanks so much for sharing with us.


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2002: Keiko (F) + 2003: Hiroshi (M) = 2004: joey Tomoki (M)
2009: Sammy (F), Charlie (F), Murray (M), Herbie (M)
2010: BJ (M)
Re: Healesville Diet Nutritional Analysis (Version 1) [Re: KattyM] #391573
10/03/07 01:47 PM
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Thanks KattyM! I am waiting on Sue from AU to provide alternate info on the pollen and chow for a second version. I shall keep you all up to date on new versions...

Cheers, Ed


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Re: Healesville Diet Nutritional Analysis (Version 1) [Re: Lucky_Glider] #391726
10/03/07 06:27 PM
10/03/07 06:27 PM
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blockamon found a microgram-range math error in my calculation of the D3 here in this version.

It should be closer to 0.11 micrograms of D3 per serving!

We both used the exact same methodolgoy in getting to the number, but I made the math error on the soluvet. I confirmed the error and sent the source spreadsheets to him to check on any other errors. Let's hear it for peer review!

I made a notation on the error in my spreadsheets so it can be updated for the next version.

Thanks Brian!


Lucky_Glider
Lucky Glider Rescue & Sanctuary
ed@LuckyGlider.org
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Re: Healesville Diet Nutritional Analysis (Version 1) [Re: Lucky_Glider] #391935
10/03/07 10:03 PM
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Yes, let's hear it for peer review! You guys are the best! Looking forward to the next version.


Forever owned in my heart by my :grey: "Eight is Enough" colony:

:rbridge:
2002: Keiko (F) + 2003: Hiroshi (M) = 2004: joey Tomoki (M)
2009: Sammy (F), Charlie (F), Murray (M), Herbie (M)
2010: BJ (M)

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