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St. Paul's pet ban list may include sugar glider #426963
12/02/07 01:01 PM
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Re: St. Paul's pet ban list may include sugar glid [Re: CritterHill] #426982
12/02/07 01:32 PM
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That is the most insane thing I have heard. Leave it to St. Paul to be the start of the "sugar glider" epidemic in MN.

Re: St. Paul's pet ban list may include sugar glider [Re: ] #426990
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There are alot of ignorant people out there unfortunately


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Re: St. Paul's pet ban list may include sugar glider [Re: ] #426991
12/02/07 01:42 PM
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I think we all should write him a "nice" little letter. He doesnt even know what he's talking about. what real danger do they posses other than flinging food and face hugs. That ban would really hurt alot of people. Thanks for bringing that up Critterhill.

Re: St. Paul's pet ban list may include sugar glider [Re: ] #426994
12/02/07 01:52 PM
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'nough said

Last edited by sugarlope; 12/02/07 08:10 PM. Reason: removed quoted text~Gretchen
Re: St. Paul's pet ban list may include sugar glider [Re: ] #426999
12/02/07 02:07 PM
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He must have a issue with them . this cant just be a guy standing up for the town. He probly got bit by one or something.

Re: St. Paul's pet ban list may include sugar glider [Re: ] #427051
12/02/07 03:39 PM
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I'm glad I waited to get mine until after I moved out of St.Paul. Ugh. Hopefully this idea begins and ends there as far as Minnesota is concerned.

I know personally some of the Animal Control supervisors for Minneapolis and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't pull [censored] like that. As for other cities, I don't know.

Re: St. Paul's pet ban list may include sugar glider [Re: ] #427052
12/02/07 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted By: Giznosesmama
He must have a issue with them . this cant just be a guy standing up for the town. He probly got bit by one or something.


Gizmo has bit me a few times, drawn blood a few times, but you don't see me banning him. The guy has no guts to stand up to the small percentage of people yelling about gliders. I for one know many more dogs that should be banned than gliders. Not exactly like gliders are a public annoyance, lol.

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Re: St. Paul's pet ban list may include sugar glider [Re: ] #427062
12/02/07 04:02 PM
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Luckily I am an hour and a half from St. Paul but this is a CROCK! "what dangers they may pose?" I will be getting the information to send a letter to him today and get it out this week.

So Any advice on writing a "professional" sounding letter would be appreciated!

Thank you for posting that Critterhill!


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Re: St. Paul's pet ban list may include sugar glider [Re: GliderLove] #427065
12/02/07 04:07 PM
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wow! How sad frown
The people in St Paul need to pull together and fill out a petition!

Re: St. Paul's pet ban list may include sugar glider [Re: ] #427074
12/02/07 04:25 PM
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Being originally from WI... I am seriously confused about his comment on that MN climate is not right for them....

Erm.. last time I checked... we keep them in a warm home... lol

Anyone want to see where he keeps his dog, cat, etc?

Re: St. Paul's pet ban list may include sugar glider [Re: ] #427077
12/02/07 04:32 PM
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Dog = timberwolf

Cat = Siberian tiger

lol

On a side note I wanna know how he things they are bad for the enviroment.

Re: St. Paul's pet ban--petition made [Re: ] #427203
12/02/07 08:44 PM
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Here you go MN:

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/mn-against-the-st-paul-sugar-glider-ban

Advertise this...print off info...leave it at your vets...wherever you go!!!

Last edited by cinnamonstix; 12/02/07 08:51 PM.

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Re: St. Paul's pet ban--petition made [Re: cinnamonstix] #427213
12/02/07 09:14 PM
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He said this was started because of people complaining about vendors selling them at festivals. Instead of banning the animal entirely, why not ban the certain people (not mentioning names like (PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets or anything) and let only local people sell them?

Re: St. Paul's pet ban--petition made [Re: ] #427222
12/02/07 09:36 PM
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Yeah...you would think...I know like 1 pet Shop in St Paul actually that sells them...otherwise I feel they are kinda hard to come by here in MN...unless you are on here or know people.

Let the vendors come...while we hold the fort down and let everyone know that they are horrible...we will make life fun for them.


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Re: St. Paul's pet ban--petition made [Re: cinnamonstix] #427249
12/02/07 10:37 PM
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Ok I think this is terrible. Why are they banned in other states? I am new to all of this...

Re: St. Paul's pet ban--petition made [Re: ] #427255
12/02/07 10:57 PM
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Everyone that can, needs to go around St.Paul and get a list of names on a petition. They all the glider owners that are there need to show up and speak on behave of the gliders at this city hall meeting. If there is nobody there to dispute him and his vote, than more than likely it will be past.

If you can get even a handful of people together, take some FACTUAL paperwork and if you can find a GOOD EXOTIC vet that will go and speak on the behalf of the glider, that would be awesome as well.

I can tell you though, if nobody shows up with good evidence that a glider is no danger to society or the enviroment, they will be banned in St.Paul.

That is just how the city councils work.


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Re: St. Paul's pet ban--petition made [Re: Srlb] #427260
12/02/07 11:02 PM
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I am hoping to print up some cards and get them out...hopefully some others in my area can help...print out some info with maybe little take home cards with the URL on it...I am not in St Paul...but this will hurt the animals, owners and busiesses as well...so hopefully we can help everyone out and get this garbage stopped.


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Re: St. Paul's pet ban--petition made [Re: cinnamonstix] #427292
12/02/07 11:41 PM
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If this passes in St Paul, then it will eventually spread to Minneapolis and even the entire state. Then who knows where next...

I completely agree that sugar gliders should not be sold at conventions, fairs or whatever. Impulse buyers do not always make good owners to a pet that lives for 15+ years.

This does not mean an entire city should ban them. Where is the logic in that???

Maybe he is mixing up gliders with the native flying squirrel when he talks of them affecting the environment? Otherwise I am confused, especially since he even stated not a single glider has been caught outside.

I'm willing to help in whatever way I can and will look into ways to put a stop to this!

Re: St. Paul's pet ban--petition made [Re: ] #427296
12/02/07 11:48 PM
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so does anyone have any suggestions for best suggie vet in the cities?

Re: St. Paul's pet ban--petition made [Re: ] #427323
12/03/07 12:26 AM
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I am hoping to drop off info at Como...they do the lazer surgery...I bet they would be good.


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Re: St. Paul's pet ban--petition made [Re: ] #427324
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I signed the petition, but I was only the 9th person. We NEED more signatures!


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Re: St. Paul's pet ban--petition made [Re: GliderLove] #427333
12/03/07 12:44 AM
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I signed and was # 10 to do so.

Re: St. Paul's pet ban--petition made [Re: ] #427340
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Could the petition possibly be cross-posted onto another forum, like Glider Talk and Traveling, or would that not fly?

Re: St. Paul's pet ban--petition made [Re: ] #427341
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It sounds to me that he just doesn't want to deal with people complaining about suggies being sold at places like flea markets and so he just decided that nobody should have them.

This is what happens when people try to stop the wrong type of breeding and selling, they just get taken away from everyone.

So, in other words, stop complaining about them being mistreated or sold by people that are mill breeders or you won't be able to have yours even though you are trying to make the entire glider community better by looking out for the best interests' of the suggies.

That's just a bunch of [censored]. He don't want to deal with making people take responsibility for doing wrong, so nobody can have them anymore.


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Re: St. Paul's pet ban--petition made [Re: carolkosiorek] #427350
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Added links on Craigslist...sent out dozens of PM's to MN peeps on here...if they are still active...lol. Going to try My Space again...darn bulletins were not working!


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Re: St. Paul's pet ban--petition made [Re: cinnamonstix] #427367
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That is just RUDE!!! How can you have an opinion on something you know NOTHING about?!? And he admits it! OOOOOHH some people make me SO MAD!
Where's the petition!! I'm going to go sign!!!!

I think there should be another petition to have him FIRED! I mean come on!

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It seems like this guy might have his heart in the right place, trying to keep ignorant owners and irresponsible breeders from buying/selling them at conventions. But banning them in the whole city doesn't seem like a very viable answer. I hope the petition gets going and people who own there now can at least get grandfathered in or something.

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Because he's Lazy they should be banned?!? That's what it comes down to.. as far as I see it..
Is that government answer in the future?

I enjoy visiting the twin cities but honestly this will keep me from coming if I can't bring my gliders with.. I won't be there either!


Completely OT: ... but... aren't those gliders in the article just the cutest little babies.. don't you just want to rub those little ears..... Ok ok.. I know. .I need help.

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Re: St. Paul's pet ban--petition made [Re: ] #427457
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I was just about to post something about this today, but noticed the PM from Gwen which brought me to this thread. Apparently I am too slow. My mom actually emailed me the article on Saturday, but she sent it to my work email, so I only JUST found out about this! Ugh! I will be signing the petition and forwarding the info to others! frown

Edited to add: I was #18

Last edited by Usha77; 12/03/07 11:13 AM.

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