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Darwin's Tail Injury (including pix) #501776
03/11/08 11:38 PM
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As many of you are already aware, Darwin injured his tail this evening and had to have an emergency partial tail amputation cry Right now I am unsure of the cause but will go over his cage with a fine-toothed comb in the daylight tomorrow to see if I can find any tell-tale tufts of fur that might give us a clue worried I suspect, in thinking about what is in his cage, that it might be from the axle that attached the wheel to the reptarium frame. Darwin is unusual in that he likes to run on the outside of his wheel dunno Crazy guy is always running along the outside of the track and then hops to the inside mid-stride! Truly amazing to watch but I'm afraid it may have gotten him into trouble this evening shakehead
So... when I was feeding the gliders this evening, Darwin came out for his nightly "runabout" so he could run visit with Mareki through the mesh and then proceed to mark up the outside of her reptarium as per usual. I didn't notice anything unusual at first because he ran to the top of the Rept right away, then over to Mareki's side. I continued to feed the rest of the gliders and then when I was ready to put him back in his Rept I noticed that his tail was kinked at 90* angles in two places blush Poor Karen/the_gliders_angel... I was on the phone with her when I discovered it and her ears are probably still ringing from my cries of astonishment. Darwin, meanwhile, was looking at me like I was totally bonkers roflmao He truly didn't seem affected by the breaks at all dunno I quickly hung up and ran downstairs to show my hubby. We agreed that I needed to bring him to the vet immediately for emergency surgery. I called and left a message for my regular vet.
An hour later, I arrived at the Metropolitan Veterinary Hospital in Akron, Ohio. Upon examination, Dr. Smith determined that Darwin did need to have part of his tail amputated. She proceeded with the surgery and I had Darwin back in my hands within another hour. Although he seems oblivious to his newly abbreviated tail at this point, he is VERY MAD at me for putting the e-collar on him!
I did take pictures of his stub once we got back home again but had forgotten to bring my camera with me to the vet's. When I asked her for the part she had amputated, she really thought I was nuts, but then I explained about needing to take pictures of it for my gliders' medical files. The following pictures are graphic and should not be viewed if you have a weak stomach...

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Darwin's Tail Amputation 3'11'08 003 rdc.JPG (165 downloads)
This is an overview of Darwin showing the remainder of his tail and the exposed nub from where they shaved it to have access to the individual vertebrae.
Darwin's Tail Amputation 3'11'08 005 crop.JPG (130 downloads)
This is a close up (slightly blurry) of the nub. She did put two sutures and surgical glue on the tip to close the wound.
Darwin's Tail Amputation 3'11'08 008 crop.JPG (106 downloads)
This shows just the tip of the tail nub.
Darwin's Tail Amputation 3'11'08 010 crop.JPG (116 downloads)
This shows Darwin's abbreviated tail and body from the other side.
Darwin's Tail Amputation 3'11'08 014 crop.JPG (133 downloads)
Although difficult to see the angles, this shows the two breaks in the portion of the tail that had to be removed.

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Re: Darwin's Tail Injury (including pix) [Re: sugarglidersuz] #501786
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Oh the poor baby!!! it looks just like Popeye's tail but his didn't look so "open" on the end. I really like his ecollar, I want a few of those! I hope the both of you get some rest tonite! hug2


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Re: Darwin's Tail Injury (including pix) [Re: sugarglidersuz] #501788
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Awww, poor baby, with his short little tail. I hope the rest of his recovery goes smoothly. I think both you and Darwin need some hug2 hug2

Re: Darwin's Tail Injury (including pix) [Re: ] #501798
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My goodness, he sure did a number to his tail.

That e-collar is fancy! Is that homemade?

Re: Darwin's Tail Injury (including pix) [Re: ] #501803
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Poor guy! hug2 I hope he heals up fast!


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Re: Darwin's Tail Injury (including pix) [Re: Usha77] #501895
03/12/08 05:26 AM
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The e-collar is actually available from some vet's offices now. I believe they are actually made for birds. I do know that Karen/sugeebaby is carrying them on her site now if your vet doesn't carry them.


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Re: Darwin's Tail Injury (including pix) [Re: sugarglidersuz] #501900
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That is the one we had for Petey (only chunky needed the next size up, so we had to trim the plastic.) Prayers going out Darwin will heal quickly, and with no residual issues!


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Re: Darwin's Tail Injury (including pix) [Re: pappy1264] #501904
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Suz, will the stub fall off eventually?

You sure thought fast girl!! Glad he will be okay smile


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Re: Darwin's Tail Injury (including pix) [Re: SugarBlossoms] #501909
03/12/08 06:08 AM
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I don't think the stub will fall off but I have no previous experience with this type of injury nor with amputations dunno
Darwin is doing fine this morning but he's still mad about the e-collar and now he's mad about being separated from Nara all night, too roflmao Still seems oblivious to his tail though smile


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Re: Darwin's Tail Injury (including pix) [Re: sugarglidersuz] #501918
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Suz, so glad to hear that its not bothering Darwin except for the e collar. I'm glad he is alright! I was so worried.


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Re: Darwin's Tail Injury (including pix) [Re: CharmedSuggies] #501921
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No, the stub wont fall off. Ive been through three tail amputations. The end will heal and then
The hair will grow back around that portion of his tail and it will only look like he has a very short tail. It will all be grey fur.

Suz, you and darwin are in my thoughts and prayers for a speedy recovery! And Mr.Darwin you need to be good and not get yourself into anymore trouble!

Re: Darwin's Tail Injury (including pix) [Re: ] #501950
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Poor baby. Now he looks like my Chloe. She has a short tail like that. I'll be keeping Darwin in my thoughts and prayers for a speedy recovery.


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Re: Darwin's Tail Injury (including pix) [Re: sugeebaby] #501965
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Oh wow... I hope you find what did this to poor little Darwin. Maybe someone will come up with a cover for the back of the wheel if that's what it is dunno I'm sure with all these creative people, we can come up with something. hug2

Darwin, stop trying to give mama Suz heart attacks! shakehead Be a good boy and run IN the wheel! *sigh* Boys!

Suz, I'm so glad everything went okay with the surgery. That is a snazzy little e-collar that you have there! God I hope I never have to use one. shakehead

hug2 Keep us updated!

Re: Darwin's Tail Injury (including pix) [Re: ] #501984
03/12/08 08:29 AM
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Poor baby...Suz I am so sorry this happened.Praying he will heal quickly with NO problems. I have a short tail from a wheel accident. She was already like that though when I got her. hug2

Re: Darwin's Tail Injury (including pix) [Re: morksmom] #502010
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Just curious, what kind of wheel do you use? I had the same thing happen to my little girl, but it was only in one part. I didnt notice the kink until she self mutilated it. I hope everything goes go with your lil man. Make sure he keeps on with the antibiotics. I had to have 2 tail amputations before it finally was right. The second time they put her on antibiotics the whole time and she did a lot better. Now she has a fluffy tail, all the hair grew back, even on the tip. Hers is all gray as well!

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Poor little guy! I will keep Darwin in my thoughts and prayers today. hug2

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hug2 to your sweet little fella Suz, and of course to you too!!!! I'm happy that you were able to get him in to the vet as quickly as you did. Sending lots of prayers your way! heart

Re: Darwin's Tail Injury (including pix) [Re: ] #502063
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I talked with Suz a little bit ago and she said that they did a trial where they took Darwin's ecollar off. She said he cleaned his tail but did not attack it!! So he will not have to wear the e caollar anymore, yay. It does not seem to bother him so good think is he is not in pain!!


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Re: Darwin's Tail Injury (including pix) [Re: CharmedSuggies] #502123
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Melissa is right smile We found that Gizmo had gotten out of his e-collar while I was getting ready for the day this morning. We kept a close eye on him and although he cleaned his tail he didn't do any damage to it at all grin He has now been without the collar for about 5 hours and still is leaving it alone clap We will continue to watch him closely and put it back on him if the need arises. I'm so glad he's such a good little man heart


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Suz, I'm so sorry Darwin and you had to go through this cry I'm glad to hear he is doing well right now. I wish you, Darwin and Nara the best of luck with his recovery. hug2

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Glad he's ok collar free (know it's a relief for both of you! hug2 ) Hope he keeps improving by leaps and bounds! hug2


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Re: Darwin's Tail Injury (including pix) [Re: sugarlope] #502308
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Poor guy. Glad he is behaving so he doesn't have to wear that collar. hug2 hug2


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Re: Darwin's Tail Injury (including pix) [Re: tbull] #502388
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I did thoroughly inspect his reptarium and could not find any tufts of fur anywhere. So no indications of what he caught his tail on last evening dunno Upon closer examination of the wheel mounting, I did determine that it could NOT have been the wheel mounting axle that caused the injury. I have a Custom Reptarium from Teresa/Dancing with the Rescue Wheel mounted to a vertical center pole in the cage. The axle is covered by a PVC pipe axle guard which does not rotate at all! I'm so relieved that the axle wasn't the culprit of the injury. I still believe that he may have broken his tail while running on the outside of his wheel and then jumping to the inside while it was spinning though. Unfortunately I'll never know for sure, but it's the only scenario that makes any sense at all. I questioned his regular vet about it and she feels that since he regularly runs on the outside of the wheel that it is very probable that this scenario is accurate since there appears to be nothing else in the cage that he may have broken his tail on...


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Re: Darwin's Tail Injury (including pix) [Re: sugarglidersuz] #502397
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ohwell Hm... sneaky devil! Maybe he was trying to squish between the cover and the pole of the rept, got caught and paniced? dunno

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Many hugs to you Suz, and hug2 to Darwin too!!


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Re: Darwin's Tail Injury (including pix) [Re: JayAndDiana] #502538
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Suz, my heart goes out to both you & Darwin. I hope he continues to "leave it alone" like a good little boy.

You'll have to tell him that he's now part of an elite group of gliders more commonly known as "hamstas"....remember how short Willy Wonka's stub of a tail is? There IS life for gliders with no rudder, they just jump & bound where they want to go now. hug2


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Re: Darwin's Tail Injury (including pix) [Re: minkasmom] #502548
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That is too true. Having a stubby tail hasn't slowed Lan down a bit! laugh


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Re: Darwin's Tail Injury (including pix) [Re: Usha77] #502598
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Well, it certainly hasn't slowed Darwin down, that's for sure! Today we had him out for a while and he decided to keep gliding from me to my hubby and back again. Then, he decided to glide to the kitchen cupboards and scampered up to the top of them! Now, keep in mind that we have 10' tall ceilings so the top of the cabinets are at 8' high roflmao I'm sure you can get a good visual of all of this activity from a little man who had emergency surgery last night grin Amazing!!!


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Re: Darwin's Tail Injury (including pix) [Re: sugarglidersuz] #502633
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What a little trooper! He's not letting a little emergency surgery stop him from having a good time! laugh


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