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HELP LEGALIZE SUGAR GLIDERS IN PA!! #534469
04/22/08 04:07 PM
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Hey everyone..I know there are a couple states that our precious suggies are illegal in..one being PA. You can find many petitions on the internet for PA and the most famous story being the one about Sandra Reynolds. I emailed Pat from Sybilsden.com (another sugar owner tryin to legalize the state) and signed the petition which you can find here. http://www.petitiononline.com/sybilpet/ ...She said that she recently called the Pennsylvania Game Commission and asked why gliders are illegal. They gave the excuse because of the risk of them breeding with flying squirrels and overpopulating. She told him this was not possible so he told her to find some sources stating that Sugar gliders can NOT breed with flying squirrels and he would look into gettin things changed. I ask everyone to please help out PA by sending me any articles you may find about this. I will pass them on and get things started. You can email me at Miamidolphan13@aol.com ...lets bring suggies to PA dance

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Re: HELP LEGALIZE SUGAR GLIDERS IN PA!! [Re: ] #534511
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I forgot to mention..if anybody sends any links put Legalize Suggies! in the subject box so i know which to open! THANKS GUYS

Re: HELP LEGALIZE SUGAR GLIDERS IN PA!! [Re: ] #534539
04/22/08 05:22 PM
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It wouldn't be possible for a glider and a flyer to mate, they're 2 different species, with 2 different types of reproductive systems. I would say any vet/zoo would be able to give you documentation of that.

Re: HELP LEGALIZE SUGAR GLIDERS IN PA!! [Re: BeckiT] #534823
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A couple of years ago, when I asked my USDA inspector about why gliders are illegal in PA, she told me that it was due to the Monkey Pox outbreak a number of years ago. At that time, PA had a kneejerk reaction and made all small exotic pets illegal. You may want to check with someone other than the game commissioner you spoke to to verify that the information he gave you is correct. I tend to believe the USDA inspector (who is a veterinarian) over the story that you heard.


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Re: HELP LEGALIZE SUGAR GLIDERS IN PA!! [Re: sugarglidersuz] #534838
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Re: HELP LEGALIZE SUGAR GLIDERS IN PA!! [Re: pappy1264] #534881
04/23/08 07:43 AM
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Re: HELP LEGALIZE SUGAR GLIDERS IN PA!! [Re: sugarglidersuz] #534949
04/23/08 09:16 AM
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Thanks for that suz i didnt know...but in PA the game commission is the ones with the authority to change the laws. So if we can prove THEM wrong then they wont have a choice but to switch it...Thanks for the signatures everyone! clap thanks KEEP SIGNING TO BRING SUGGIES TO PA! clap thanks

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Re: HELP LEGALIZE SUGAR GLIDERS IN PA!! [Re: ] #534956
04/23/08 09:31 AM
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I signed. My mom lives in PA about half of the year and I can't go see her because of this law. I hope it passes.


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Re: HELP LEGALIZE SUGAR GLIDERS IN PA!! [Re: Nikki] #536109
04/24/08 06:23 PM
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Re: HELP LEGALIZE SUGAR GLIDERS IN PA!! [Re: angelic4296] #536119
04/24/08 06:27 PM
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Re: HELP LEGALIZE SUGAR GLIDERS IN PA!! [Re: ] #541728
05/02/08 11:30 AM
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So you can have a tiger or alligator in PA, but not a sugar glider?

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Re: HELP LEGALIZE SUGAR GLIDERS IN PA!! [Re: ] #541799
05/02/08 12:38 PM
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Yes, it makes SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much sense.............


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Re: HELP LEGALIZE SUGAR GLIDERS IN PA!! [Re: angelic4296] #543639
05/05/08 07:06 AM
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Any updates??


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Re: HELP LEGALIZE SUGAR GLIDERS IN PA!! [Re: angelic4296] #543641
05/05/08 07:10 AM
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Alright I called the Game Commission myself this morning and spoke to the person in charge of issuing permits and they said that gliders are illegal because they aren't native to PA...she said that you can only bring animals into the state that are native to PA...she was also extremely rude and self-righteouss...I wanted to jump through the phone at her.


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Re: HELP LEGALIZE SUGAR GLIDERS IN PA!! [Re: angelic4296] #544256
05/05/08 09:25 PM
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I don't believe that excuse for a minute. You can't bring native reptiles IN OR OUT of PA, but you can sell cobras and crocodiles (seriously).

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Re: HELP LEGALIZE SUGAR GLIDERS IN PA!! [Re: ] #566588
06/09/08 02:56 PM
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i signed it and i bet the mean lady eats erasers (im obviously going to be a rude 5 year old forever lol)

Re: HELP LEGALIZE SUGAR GLIDERS IN PA!! [Re: ] #566594
06/09/08 03:07 PM
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Re: HELP LEGALIZE SUGAR GLIDERS IN PA!! [Re: ] #570362
06/15/08 12:27 AM
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Re: HELP LEGALIZE SUGAR GLIDERS IN PA!! [Re: ] #570964
06/16/08 08:48 AM
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Any updates on this??


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Re: HELP LEGALIZE SUGAR GLIDERS IN PA!! [Re: angelic4296] #574699
06/22/08 08:54 AM
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Re: HELP LEGALIZE SUGAR GLIDERS IN PA!! [Re: sweetheart26] #575917
06/24/08 09:18 AM
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Signed it...Good Luck!!


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Re: HELP LEGALIZE SUGAR GLIDERS IN PA!! [Re: hipbchik] #584961
07/07/08 11:42 PM
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I have friends in PA. There are gliders for sale by private breeders all over the state. They post ads in newspapers, on line etc. I guess no one really cares or they would exforce the law.
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Re: HELP LEGALIZE SUGAR GLIDERS IN PA!! [Re: Thezoves] #721824
01/23/09 01:53 AM
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As of Autumn 2008, they are legal to own as domestic house pets in the U.S.A in 47 of the 48 contiguous states, with California being the only exception. In Pennsylvania, they are legal as solely house pets, but breeders require a special permit and there are restrictions on the sale
RIGHT OFF THE WIKI SITE. YOU ALSO CAN'T SELL OR TRADE THEM EITHER YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PERMIT TO SELL.

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OK, but to really be certain of that, we need to see the legislation and to hear from someone that was actually able to get a permit. And there lies the problem with PA...they have had it on the books for ages that with a permit they are legal, but the state refuses to issue permits to sugar glider owners which, in effect, makes sugar gliders illegal to own in the state of Pennsylvania. frown

Oh, sorry to say it (and I mean no disrespect) but Wikipedia is not really a fully reliable source. ohwell

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Re: HELP LEGALIZE SUGAR GLIDERS IN PA!! [Re: sugarlope] #721866
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Re: HELP LEGALIZE SUGAR GLIDERS IN PA!! [Re: kelii] #722838
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that is the same laws that were there before, the state has really obscure laws, if they are backed into a corner and forced to clarify their laws, no one likes the outcome.

BTW there are several licenses you must get, and one of them is not and never has been available, we used to have 3 breeders USDA and state licensed, but there was a permit, they all didn't have and were not able to get and they all were forced to close down.

please the best person to talk to is vicki dachiu
at dragons at dachiu.com

she is a major breeder of bearded dragons, and one of the breeders that was forced to close, she keeps up with all the current laws and said she would let me know when the laws have changed for the gliders.

she will let you know what can be done, and if you live in PA what you should nd should not do,


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