Sugar Glider Community Calendar

Please click here to see larger view
Articles
More coming soon!!
Today's Birthdays
Anita, MamaDove
Member Spotlight
Posts: 72
Joined: December 2016
Show All Member Profiles 
Last 10 Posts
Glider Charm Bracelets
by Michelle_D. 02/26/21 10:13 PM
Swollen Cloaca
by Feather. 02/24/21 07:07 PM
reminder the SGGA2021 coming up
by mechnut450. 02/19/21 08:31 PM
Been a longtime and I'm ready
by Feather. 02/18/21 10:57 PM
Travel cage for chewers
by cuttlefish. 02/18/21 07:50 PM
2021 Sugar Glider Calendar and Cafe Press Store
by theresaw. 02/18/21 07:10 PM
Cage accessories
by CChipman. 02/16/21 07:26 AM
Our first babies
by CChipman. 02/15/21 09:14 AM
Freedom Wheel floor stand for Stealth Wheel?
by Ladymagyver. 02/14/21 12:24 PM
Google+

Facebook
Join Us On Facebook
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Geriatric Gliders #561440
05/31/08 04:32 PM
05/31/08 04:32 PM
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 7,356
Austin, TX
USMom Offline OP
Serious Glideritis
USMom  Offline OP
Serious Glideritis

Joined: May 2005
Posts: 7,356
Austin, TX
I have a glider, Clyde, that is old, he is 11+, almost 12. And I've made some posts in the last few days in the Health section. But, I think this is more of a special need, than an ongoing health issue.

I know Clyde isn't the only older glider out there, and I know we have members who have older gliders across the bridge. I am asking all of you with this experience to pass it on.

Clyde is acting like he has trouble seeing, but with no signs of cataracts. He has been very slowly losing weight over the last year. His activity level has decreased.

What should I watch for? What other changes will I see? Is there anything special I should be doing? What do I need to know?


Shawna
Who are you networked with? Networking could save your gliders life. Create one now.

Re: Geriatric Gliders [Re: USMom] #561498
05/31/08 05:56 PM
05/31/08 05:56 PM
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 6,576
Kilgore, Texas
Cora Offline
Serious Glideritis
Cora  Offline
Serious Glideritis

Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 6,576
Kilgore, Texas
Have you called Maryh? in 13 years she is bound to have had some senior gliders!!!! Probably has some now!!

OT: Thanks for calling me back this morning..........all is in place to get those pesky little varments!!! smile


USDA Licensed Breeder
903-808-1142

http://www.freewebs.com/angelfish_37/index.htm
Re: Geriatric Gliders [Re: Cora] #561571
05/31/08 08:30 PM
05/31/08 08:30 PM
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,360
Ft. Pierce, FL
thefotokat Offline
Glider Slave
thefotokat  Offline
Glider Slave

Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,360
Ft. Pierce, FL
I just had to put down my 2 oldest girls. They were about 13 years old. Flo had a neuro episode about 2 years ago and had permanent disability from that. Ollie was healthy until about the last 3 months of her life. She had always been the bigger of the 2 (about 130g). She had had perio problems resulting in a few dental extractions and I had to modify her diet to be pureed after she lost her incisors. She still did well, but started to lose weight slowly. Her activity level started to decrease also. Instead of scampering around the glider room, she would stick closer to me. Her eyes started to lose their brightness and she just didn't seem herself to me. She stopped using her wheel and preferred to cuddle w/Flo. I moved them to a reptarium and added hammocks in case of a fall. Flo never climbed after her neuro incident, but Ollie still would. About a month before she died, I noticed she stopped climbing. She used to love sitting in a hammock near the top of the rep, but stopped using it. The weight continued to go down a few grams at a time. She was down to about 113G when I put her to sleep. The final changes I saw began w/lack of appetite. She used to be a good eater, but the few days before her death, she only ate a little HPW. I tried handfeeding, but she just wasn't interested. I think that's when I knew the end was getting closer. There were a few days where she just wanted to be in my shirt or sit on my shoulder and be loved. I woke up one morning and found a full food dish in their rep and Ollie was hanging on the side of their clam bed. She couldn't upright herself and was very disoriented. I called my vet and he came in and met me at his office. He took one look and told me it was bad. She was displaying obvious neuro signs. She could barely walk and when she did it was very uncoordinated. She didn't seem to know where she was. I held her while he put her to sleep. I lost Flo about a month later. She suffered from respiratory problems secondary to teeth extractions. The infection had perforated the sinus and she never seemed to get over that final illness. The lack of appetite, w/no other cause, was my realization of the end. I hope this helps some and I hope Clyde improves and has some more years w/you.

Re: Geriatric Gliders [Re: thefotokat] #561575
05/31/08 08:37 PM
05/31/08 08:37 PM
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 7,356
Austin, TX
USMom Offline OP
Serious Glideritis
USMom  Offline OP
Serious Glideritis

Joined: May 2005
Posts: 7,356
Austin, TX
Kate, thank you for posting that, I know it must be very hard to talk about. Just kind of having an idea of what to expect out of him, normal vs. abnormal, so I don't get in a panic over every little thing. I know others will be looking for this information, too. So, I figured if it's in here, someone can find it.


Shawna
Who are you networked with? Networking could save your gliders life. Create one now.

Re: Geriatric Gliders [Re: USMom] #561723
06/01/08 08:23 AM
06/01/08 08:23 AM
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,360
Ft. Pierce, FL
thefotokat Offline
Glider Slave
thefotokat  Offline
Glider Slave

Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,360
Ft. Pierce, FL
I panicked a few times for that same reason. I didn't know if it was the end or just a bad day. There were a few times in the 3 months before putting Ollie to sleep that I was sure we'd be on the way to the vet shortly. It was so hard to let her go (she and Flo were my first) but I wouldn't let her suffer. It's in hindsight that I can say the loss of appetite was my big sign. Other than that, it was just a gradual slowing down. We did fecals to make sure there were no obvious infections, but I knew it was age related. If there's anything I can ever help you with, call me, Shawna. I'll pm you my number.

Re: Geriatric Gliders [Re: thefotokat] #562622
06/02/08 09:16 PM
06/02/08 09:16 PM
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 7,356
Austin, TX
USMom Offline OP
Serious Glideritis
USMom  Offline OP
Serious Glideritis

Joined: May 2005
Posts: 7,356
Austin, TX
Clyde seems more active tonight. Here are a couple of pictures. One is from 3 years ago, so you can see the difference in his age (all taken with the same camera). The last two pics are from tonight.

Attached Files
037.JPG (154 downloads)
Bonnie and Clyde 3 years ago.
004.JPG (139 downloads)
Clyde and his 2 year old son, Joey.
Clyde.jpg (145 downloads)
Clyde, these two are taken tonight.

Shawna
Who are you networked with? Networking could save your gliders life. Create one now.

Re: Geriatric Gliders [Re: USMom] #562756
06/03/08 05:19 AM
06/03/08 05:19 AM
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,788
Cleveland, Ohio
sugarglidersuz Offline
Glideritis Anonymous
sugarglidersuz  Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,788
Cleveland, Ohio
mlove


Suz Enyedy
:bb: Carina & Coobah
Allira & Gizmo :grey:
:grey: Picasso, Trinity Joy & Luna
:rbridge: DaisyMae; Darwin; Mareki; Mambo; Pika; Cricky; Reggie & Bobo, Pepe & Bittah


Suz' Sugar Gliders
Re: Geriatric Gliders [Re: sugarglidersuz] #563095
06/03/08 05:38 PM
06/03/08 05:38 PM
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,360
Ft. Pierce, FL
thefotokat Offline
Glider Slave
thefotokat  Offline
Glider Slave

Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,360
Ft. Pierce, FL
He looks good, Shawna. Ollie had a different "look" to her in her last few months. You'll probably see him go through phases of more and less active and I'm definitely happy he's perking up.

Re: Geriatric Gliders [Re: thefotokat] #564682
06/06/08 10:03 AM
06/06/08 10:03 AM
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 3,224
North Fort Worth - TX
jacknsally Offline
Glider Addict
jacknsally  Offline
Glider Addict

Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 3,224
North Fort Worth - TX
Shawna- about his eye sight, it could be possible he's getting the nuclear sclerosis. Their not suppose to totally lose their eye sight but it I saw a big difference in Jack especially when both lenses had it. With Jack it was only noticeable at certain angles.


Ñancy
~Always on my mind & in my heart Jack, Sally & Serenity~


Mobmilli's Boutique
Re: Geriatric Gliders [Re: jacknsally] #564723
06/06/08 11:21 AM
06/06/08 11:21 AM
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,360
Ft. Pierce, FL
thefotokat Offline
Glider Slave
thefotokat  Offline
Glider Slave

Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,360
Ft. Pierce, FL
Nancy, what did that look like? Does it resemble a cataract in appearance?

Re: Geriatric Gliders [Re: thefotokat] #565153
06/06/08 11:26 PM
06/06/08 11:26 PM
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 3,224
North Fort Worth - TX
jacknsally Offline
Glider Addict
jacknsally  Offline
Glider Addict

Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 3,224
North Fort Worth - TX
Originally Posted By: thefotokat
Nancy, what did that look like? Does it resemble a cataract in appearance?


Not so much. Cataracts have a cloudy appearance over the entire eye usually.Though they are mistaken for cataracts to those who have never seen ns. Nuclear Sclerosis looks like a white/grey circle in the center of their eye (their nucleus). There are times it's not even noticeable, just depends on what angle the lights hits the nucleus.

From one angle in one of Shawna's picture, I see a white reflection in one of her glider's eyes, not sure if it's a red eye angle but could possibly be the ns. It's pretty easy to detect once you've seen it, atleast for me.


Ñancy
~Always on my mind & in my heart Jack, Sally & Serenity~


Mobmilli's Boutique
Re: Geriatric Gliders [Re: jacknsally] #565278
06/07/08 10:16 AM
06/07/08 10:16 AM
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,360
Ft. Pierce, FL
thefotokat Offline
Glider Slave
thefotokat  Offline
Glider Slave

Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,360
Ft. Pierce, FL
Thanks. I hadn't heard of that before.

Re: Geriatric Gliders [Re: thefotokat] #778425
05/11/09 09:10 PM
05/11/09 09:10 PM
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 251
Indian Rocks Beach, FL
irie888 Offline
Glider Explorer
irie888  Offline
Glider Explorer

Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 251
Indian Rocks Beach, FL
I know it is a little late but I have a 16 (at least) year old glider who seems to be doing well. I don't know how Clyde is but I am happy to try and help. Feel free to contact me at irie888@yahoo.com.


Erin (Mom to)


:grey: Pixie, Bell, Otto, :leu: Helo, & :wfb: Skids, Kizmet :rtmo: Uqi

1 Crazy Dogs
Weim - Irie


:rbridge: Aspen at 20 years old was still too soon to leave me, Keto, Zucgar & Echo
Re: Geriatric Gliders [Re: irie888] #779588
05/14/09 09:49 PM
05/14/09 09:49 PM
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 7,356
Austin, TX
USMom Offline OP
Serious Glideritis
USMom  Offline OP
Serious Glideritis

Joined: May 2005
Posts: 7,356
Austin, TX
Clyde is actually doing rather well right now. He cycles, and he is on an upswing. He goes up and down weight wise, but is gradually getting smaller. His activity level is steady, but I can see that it has declined over the last year. He still comes out for treats and is the first one up for dinner. He isn't as steady as he was a year ago, but no falls yet. We have moved his pouch to the lowest part of the cage, and added some hammocks, but he doesn't climb much anymore. We love him very much, and I get real sad thinking about him getting old. I know he won't be here forever, and I hate it.

Last edited by USMom; 05/14/09 09:50 PM.

Shawna
Who are you networked with? Networking could save your gliders life. Create one now.

Re: Geriatric Gliders [Re: USMom] #779601
05/14/09 10:39 PM
05/14/09 10:39 PM
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 22,748
80 acres of paradise in KS
Dancing Offline
Glideritis Anonymous
Dancing  Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 22,748
80 acres of paradise in KS
Dexter is my old timer here, over 12. He is still doing great but has slowed down some. I added ramps in his cage (they are about 3" wide and go all over the cage and to differnt shelfs and such) so he doesn't have to climb so much and he is still pretty active. He doesn't jump anymore and he is more cuddly then ever. He does still run on the wheel but doesn't do the acrobats in it like the younger gliders.


620-704-9109
Judge not until you have walked in their shoes and lived their lives. What you see online is only part of the story.

I could have missed the pain
But I'd of had to miss the dance


The soul would have no rainbow if the eyes had no tears.
Re: Geriatric Gliders [Re: Dancing] #779655
05/15/09 05:32 AM
05/15/09 05:32 AM
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,788
Cleveland, Ohio
sugarglidersuz Offline
Glideritis Anonymous
sugarglidersuz  Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,788
Cleveland, Ohio
Darwin is about 11 years old now heart He is starting to slow down a bit and is not as agile anymore. I haven't had to make cage accommodations for him yet, but I'm sure I will need to in the near future ohwell


Suz Enyedy
:bb: Carina & Coobah
Allira & Gizmo :grey:
:grey: Picasso, Trinity Joy & Luna
:rbridge: DaisyMae; Darwin; Mareki; Mambo; Pika; Cricky; Reggie & Bobo, Pepe & Bittah


Suz' Sugar Gliders
Re: Geriatric Gliders [Re: sugarglidersuz] #779917
05/15/09 06:58 PM
05/15/09 06:58 PM
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 7,356
Austin, TX
USMom Offline OP
Serious Glideritis
USMom  Offline OP
Serious Glideritis

Joined: May 2005
Posts: 7,356
Austin, TX
Teresa, Clyde is much more cuddly, too. I might try the ramps.


Shawna
Who are you networked with? Networking could save your gliders life. Create one now.

Re: Geriatric Gliders [Re: USMom] #779920
05/15/09 07:01 PM
05/15/09 07:01 PM
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 7,356
Austin, TX
USMom Offline OP
Serious Glideritis
USMom  Offline OP
Serious Glideritis

Joined: May 2005
Posts: 7,356
Austin, TX
I need to verify Clyde's Birthday. I have him listed as summer of '92, but that would mean he's 17, so...


Shawna
Who are you networked with? Networking could save your gliders life. Create one now.

Re: Geriatric Gliders [Re: USMom] #780333
05/16/09 10:13 PM
05/16/09 10:13 PM

A
astronoc
Unregistered
astronoc
Unregistered
A



Are older gliders fed a different diet at all?

Re: Geriatric Gliders [Re: ] #780349
05/16/09 11:06 PM
05/16/09 11:06 PM
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 7,356
Austin, TX
USMom Offline OP
Serious Glideritis
USMom  Offline OP
Serious Glideritis

Joined: May 2005
Posts: 7,356
Austin, TX
Not really. I give Clyde the same things my other guys get.


Shawna
Who are you networked with? Networking could save your gliders life. Create one now.

Re: Geriatric Gliders [Re: USMom] #780595
05/17/09 09:10 PM
05/17/09 09:10 PM
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 251
Indian Rocks Beach, FL
irie888 Offline
Glider Explorer
irie888  Offline
Glider Explorer

Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 251
Indian Rocks Beach, FL
I give all of my gliders milk replacement mixed in with their vitamins. It gives them an added calcium boost and makes it takes better. I believe that is one of the things that has kept my old girl Aspen (16 years old) going strong.


Erin (Mom to)


:grey: Pixie, Bell, Otto, :leu: Helo, & :wfb: Skids, Kizmet :rtmo: Uqi

1 Crazy Dogs
Weim - Irie


:rbridge: Aspen at 20 years old was still too soon to leave me, Keto, Zucgar & Echo
Re: Geriatric Gliders [Re: USMom] #780678
05/18/09 05:09 AM
05/18/09 05:09 AM
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,788
Cleveland, Ohio
sugarglidersuz Offline
Glideritis Anonymous
sugarglidersuz  Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,788
Cleveland, Ohio
Originally Posted By: astronoc
Are older gliders fed a different diet at all?
Originally Posted By: USMom
Not really. I give Clyde the same things my other guys get.
I don't give my older gliders anything different either... Just the Back to Basics BML diet that everyone else gets thumb


Suz Enyedy
:bb: Carina & Coobah
Allira & Gizmo :grey:
:grey: Picasso, Trinity Joy & Luna
:rbridge: DaisyMae; Darwin; Mareki; Mambo; Pika; Cricky; Reggie & Bobo, Pepe & Bittah


Suz' Sugar Gliders

Sugar Glider Help Page



Please click above to see how you can help!!

Moon
CURRENT MOON
Who's Online Now
1 registered members (Michelle_D), 19 guests, and 356 spiders.
Key: , , Owner, Admin
Newest Members
cengland911, SouthernBelle, CChipman, Pecher1234, AZDrea
7206 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums132
Topics10,195
Posts158,248
posts in the last 24hrs0
Members7,206
Most Online2,693
Jan 2nd, 2020
Last 10 New Topics
Glider Charm Bracelets
by Michelle_D. 02/26/21 10:13 PM
reminder the SGGA2021 coming up
by mechnut450. 02/19/21 08:31 PM
Travel cage for chewers
by cuttlefish. 02/18/21 07:50 PM
Been a longtime and I'm ready
by tammyangel. 02/18/21 12:43 PM
Cage accessories
by CChipman. 02/15/21 09:35 AM
Swollen Cloaca
by cookielover. 02/15/21 12:00 AM
Freedom Wheel floor stand for Stealth Wheel?
by mariad3. 02/13/21 04:28 PM
Our first babies
by CChipman. 02/12/21 09:20 PM
Are these humidifiers safe?
by cookielover. 02/09/21 05:50 PM
Popular Topics(Views)
814,375 TEXAS
647,907 OHIO
454,377 OKLAHOMA
403,269 UTAH
297,010 NORTH CAROLINA
Supported Browser
This site was tested and is best viewed in Google Chrome & Mozilla FireFox



Firefox 3

Download your copy today!!!
Home Forums Links Sitemap Vets Breeders Sounds Contact Us Names Rules & Policies

GliderCENTRAL
©1998-2021
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software
(Release build 20180918)
Page Time: 0.062s Queries: 15 (0.020s) Memory: 1.4368 MB (Peak: 1.7126 MB) Zlib enabled. Server Time: 2021-02-27 10:34:02 UTC