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Acute Pulmonary Hemorrhage #632772
09/10/08 07:02 PM
09/10/08 07:02 PM
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Austin, TX
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My glider, Stitch, died last Tuesday. It was a horrible finding, and I waited to post until I had his Necropsy and Histopath results.
I found him in his wheel, with a pool of blood below. His face was stuck to the wheel, as he had bled to death out his mouth. He is a lone glider. I couldn't find anything obvious that would have caused this. I tried to look in his mouth to see if he maybe bit his tongue. I couldn't find anything at all.
His necropsy came back that he had an acute pulmonary hemorrhage--basically all of the capillaries in his lungs failed and he bled to death. The vet could find nothing obvious as a cause, so we decided to send out for a histopath.
Dr Revell found that Stitch was septic. His organs were filled with bacteria of unknown type (not cultured). There was a thrombi (described to me as a clot) of bacteria in his heart, that they believe "showered the body with bacterial emboli resulting in multiorgan inflammation" The infection that Stitch had started in his heart. We don't know when, why or how. Dr Brandt tells me that this type of infection is commonly seen in conjunction with an open wound, Stitch had no open wounds at all.
Really, Stitch looked and acted perfectly normal every minute I saw him. And, really, Dr Brandt said, other than the fact that he is dead, Stitch LOOKED healthy. Dr Brandt even asked if there was any access to electrical cords or a plug, as they see this in animals that chew through hot electrical wires, I tole him no, the closest plug is 15 feet away, and there is no way. Well, Dr Brandt spent a little time looking for burn marks in Stitch's mouth, meaning, Stitch did NOT look like a candidate for infection. He was suprised that there was no warning. He ate normally, behaved normally, played normally. Didn't lose any weight, never lost his appetite. As a matter of fact, the last time I saw him alive, he was eating.
So, the point of all of this is that they hide their illnesses VERY, VERY well.


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Re: Acute Pulmonary Hemorrhage [Re: USMom] #632776
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I am sooo sorry. HUGS and PRAYERS

Re: Acute Pulmonary Hemorrhage [Re: USMom] #632777
09/10/08 07:08 PM
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Wow.

Wow. I am so sorry Shawna...so sorry....thank you for posting this as I am sure it was very hard to do cry .

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Re: Acute Pulmonary Hemorrhage [Re: Karin] #632789
09/10/08 07:16 PM
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Shawna,

I am so sorry for your loss. May your memories of little Stitch comfort you in the days to come.


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Re: Acute Pulmonary Hemorrhage [Re: Feather] #632798
09/10/08 07:23 PM
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~~hugs~~ Shawna thank you for sharing this vital information for everyone to see even though i know its very hard.
Im soooo sorry for your loss and Im here if you need to talk!

Re: Acute Pulmonary Hemorrhage [Re: USMom] #632800
09/10/08 07:24 PM
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That is so sad about Stitch and I am so sorry.
What was his age if you don't mind me asking?

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Re: Acute Pulmonary Hemorrhage [Re: ozzi] #632802
09/10/08 07:25 PM
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I forgot to post that! He was something around 6. He came OOP in 2002, but I don't have an exact date.

And thank you all for your kindness. This isn't hard to write about, it was horrible to find. This is going to sound morbid, but you see these things in horror movies, where people just bleed out, not in your glider room!

Last edited by USMom; 09/10/08 07:27 PM.

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Re: Acute Pulmonary Hemorrhage [Re: USMom] #632843
09/10/08 07:55 PM
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Oh Shawna, how perfectly awful that must have been cry I'm so sorry you had to go through that, but I thank you so much for posting about it and for going through with the necropsy and histopathy to get the answers about what happened hug2


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Re: Acute Pulmonary Hemorrhage [Re: USMom] #632845
09/10/08 07:57 PM
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I'm so sorry Shawna hug2

Re: Acute Pulmonary Hemorrhage [Re: BeckiT] #632853
09/10/08 08:04 PM
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cry I'm sorry that you had to experience this Shawna. Thank you for taking the time to share this information and point out the reality once again about how well these little ones mask their illness.

Godspeed sweet little Stitch.. gangel

Re: Acute Pulmonary Hemorrhage [Re: USMom] #632887
09/10/08 08:44 PM
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Shawna, I am so terribly sorry. I ad this happen to a squirrel I had raised years ago. He also never showed any signs of any illness. He was fine, then gone an hour later. He bled out the same way. I am so very sorry not only for you loss, but for it to come this way. It is a very hard thing to see. God bless and Godspeed Stitch.


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Re: Acute Pulmonary Hemorrhage [Re: pappy1264] #632890
09/10/08 08:47 PM
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Austin, TX
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Mary, take this, please, the way I mean it. Thank God it has happened to someone else. It is so bizarre that who could even imagine, ever that they would find their baby like this?


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Re: Acute Pulmonary Hemorrhage [Re: USMom] #632911
09/10/08 08:58 PM
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I know, that is why I said what I did. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. And I am sure you did as I did, scouring every inch for something that 'did that'. One thing my vet said, when it happens, it is quick and they don't have much time to suffer. In some way, that gave me some peace. My heart goes out to you, Shawna.


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Re: Acute Pulmonary Hemorrhage [Re: pappy1264] #632948
09/10/08 09:30 PM
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I'm so sorry for what you went through, Shawna, and I am sorry for your loss of Stitch. My thoughts are with you. hug2


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Re: Acute Pulmonary Hemorrhage [Re: sugarlope] #632963
09/10/08 09:42 PM
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Shawna, I'm sitting here feeling pure heart agony...I feel horrible that you found him like that and that it happened. I saw it happen to a person once in a hospital emergency room about 25 years ago. I've never thought about it happening to an animal.

I don't know what to say, I'm so sorry *tear tracks* HUGS


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Re: Acute Pulmonary Hemorrhage [Re: SugarBlossoms] #633075
09/10/08 11:13 PM
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Wow.........................I am so sorry. frown
I think i probably would have freaked out and taken all my wheels out until the tests came back. I know it had to have been hard to share this but thank you!


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Re: Acute Pulmonary Hemorrhage [Re: Cora] #633093
09/10/08 11:23 PM
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Shawna, I am so very sorry.

I know this was a horrible shock for you, and hopefully there will be some answer.


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Re: Acute Pulmonary Hemorrhage [Re: KarenE] #633156
09/11/08 12:10 AM
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Shawna,

I am so sorry to hear of your loss of your baby Stitch. But, Thank you for posting this because we have unusual things happen everyday which there is no explanation for it. Know how my heart aches for you. Send healing prayers & huggs to you.

hug2 hug2 hug2 hug2 hug2 hug2

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Re: Acute Pulmonary Hemorrhage [Re: SweetGliders] #633202
09/11/08 01:57 AM
09/11/08 01:57 AM
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hug2 I am sorry you lost Stitch.


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Re: Acute Pulmonary Hemorrhage [Re: BCChins] #633290
09/11/08 08:59 AM
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Shawna, I'm so very very sorry about Stitch. hug2 hug2 hug2


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Re: Acute Pulmonary Hemorrhage [Re: LSardou] #633294
09/11/08 09:07 AM
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I've been through 2 sudden deaths in my glider family, too. I'm so sorry for your loss. I'm glad you had 6 years of joy with him to remember. gangel

Re: Acute Pulmonary Hemorrhage [Re: ] #633363
09/11/08 10:50 AM
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Shawna, I am so sorry for your loss, and what a terrible way to find that poor little one.


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Re: Acute Pulmonary Hemorrhage [Re: Xglider] #633412
09/11/08 12:15 PM
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Shawna, I'm so sorry for your loss. I can't imagine finding a glider that had passed that way. It must have been horrible to see.



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Re: Acute Pulmonary Hemorrhage [Re: princessmegi] #633499
09/11/08 02:24 PM
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Shawna, I'm so sorry about your Stitch...

Re: Acute Pulmonary Hemorrhage [Re: ] #633542
09/11/08 03:13 PM
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I'm so sorry about Stitch. Lots of love and big hugs hug2 hug2 hug2 hug2 hug2

Re: Acute Pulmonary Hemorrhage [Re: ] #633558
09/11/08 03:24 PM
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hug2 hug2 I am so sorry, Shawna.


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Re: Acute Pulmonary Hemorrhage [Re: Usha77] #633585
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wow, that's horrible.

Re: Acute Pulmonary Hemorrhage [Re: ] #633827
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I'm so sorry Shawna. hug2


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