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Heating Pad #668649
11/05/08 10:36 PM
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I have heard from many glider owners that during the winter time they place a heating pad in the gliders cage. Well I live about 4 hours from the Great Smokey Mountains and I was wondering is now to early to put a heating pad in her cage? It gets chilly outside at night and hubby hates to run the heat at night. So would it be wise to go ahead and put a heating pad into her cage?

Re: Heating Pad [Re: ] #668654
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Never, ever place it inside the cage! I use a ceramic space heater, it works wonderfully.

Re: Heating Pad [Re: ] #668655
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DO NOT PUT A HEATING PAD IN THE CAGE - your suggie could chew the wires in the heating pad. If you need more heat you could use a small room heater set very low - but not close to the cage.

There are also ceramic heaters that can be place near - but outside the cage to provide heat that the suggie can get near but not come in direct contact with.


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Re: Heating Pad [Re: ] #668656
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Bleh. Heat pads are horrible horrible things and normally, the only people that use them are people who know nothing about gliders or people who had to make an incubator for a rejected joey. The pad can get too hot, the glider can be drawn to the heat and not want to leave it thus dehydrating it, or it could get electrocuted from chewing on the cord. frown There's only 4 "safe" heating sources that I know of...your heat source (furnace or fireplace if the cage is far far away), space heater, ceramic heat emitter, and one of those bird heating panals that you hang on a wall nearby.


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Re: Heating Pad [Re: CandyOtte] #668657
11/05/08 10:48 PM
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It is not exactly in the cage. The cage she is in has a pullout tray and I placed it there under a piece of fleece fabric. It was placed so that she can't get to the wires and it also does not give off to much heat to harm her in any way, shape or form.

Re: Heating Pad [Re: ] #668660
11/05/08 10:55 PM
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That is still IN the cage. Mine will reach through to the tray and get treats they dropped. So, yours can still get to the heating pad.

Re: Heating Pad [Re: ] #668664
11/05/08 10:58 PM
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She never does drop any of her treats because the fleece i layed in the cage catches all of the food she drops.

Re: Heating Pad [Re: ] #668703
11/05/08 11:45 PM
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But she could still probably reach the heating pad. Even if she can't, think about how risky a heating pad is. worried Not only can they overheat but it does run the chance of malfunctioning and starting a fire. That would mean a fire IN the cage.

If you are worried about the cold, a ceramic heat emitter outside the cage is a much better option.

Re: Heating Pad [Re: glidergrl1513] #668708
11/05/08 11:59 PM
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It probably all depends on the kind of heating she uses. She's just trying to keep her glider warm in the winter! I'm sure she'll figure something safe out!

Good luck on it! laugh

Re: Heating Pad [Re: ] #668709
11/06/08 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted By: Aidolove
It probably all depends on the kind of heating she uses. She's just trying to keep her glider warm in the winter! I'm sure she'll figure something safe out!

Good luck on it! laugh




We know. smile Nobody is saying to not keep her glider warm, just that there are safer ways of doing so.

Re: Heating Pad [Re: ] #668710
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She as in you:sugienewby

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Re: Heating Pad [Re: ] #668711
11/06/08 12:02 AM
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well ok. can you list of them? it might help a lot of people.
oh and how hot can the safe other ways get. like for example a heating pad can probably be get up to 102 degrees.

Re: Heating Pad [Re: ] #668719
11/06/08 12:19 AM
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Your best option is either turning up the heat in your house or using a ceramic heat emitter near the cage. It gives off heat but not light, and it's not directly touching the cage, so there is no way for a glider to get hurt on it. A space heater can also work (just a normal one that you would buy for any room). You can control the heat on both of these, so it won't get too hot... and if it did, it wouldn't be close enough to matter that much!

Re: Heating Pad [Re: glidergrl1513] #668721
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Here's a post with some more options:
http://www.glidercentral.net/ubbthreads/...Warm#Post661389

In addition to the ones I've listed, it also talks about keeping the cage warm with a cage cover, and keeping the pouches warm with extra blankies and double-fleece pouches.

Re: Heating Pad [Re: ] #668726
11/06/08 12:26 AM
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I use a space heater in my glider room to keep their room at a steady temperature. It has a built in thermostat and oscillates to where it can blow heat to all the cages as it turns.

Re: Heating Pad [Re: glidergrl1513] #668727
11/06/08 12:27 AM
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but the heating pad gives off more heat. and so if there is a way to use a heating pad so that the glider won't chew and touch it. I'm sure it's ok. And there might be something like http://www.futurepets.com/Cat_Heating_Pad.htm
<- that. and maybe use a cover to keep the heat in. It might work out. idk. I might test that one out in a few days. but of course my suggie won't be in there tounge

Re: Heating Pad [Re: ] #668728
11/06/08 12:28 AM
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I cover to cover the cage..not the pad.

Re: Heating Pad [Re: ] #668729
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oh jeez

"I mean* cover to cover the cage not the heating pad"

Re: Heating Pad [Re: ] #668731
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Honestly, I doubt you need that much heat. Remember that, in general, if you are comfortable with the temperature then your glider is, too. dunno I just don't see why one would need 102 degrees of extra heat, or anything even relatively close to that.

But to each his own. smile If you have a way that you've found to be safe, then go for it.

Re: Heating Pad [Re: ] #668732
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the space heater gives off plenty of warmth (keeps the glider room at 76), and is a whole lot safer than a heating pad worried

Re: Heating Pad [Re: BeckiT] #668735
11/06/08 12:37 AM
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well my place isn't really warm all the time. in the winter it will get freezing cold (in the summer it's super cool :P) . My basement isn't done yet and thats where I live. but I'm just trying out new ideas and testing things out for the on coming winter. I mean you really don't know what will happen in the winter.

Re: Heating Pad [Re: ] #668738
11/06/08 12:39 AM
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oh and 102 degrees is just the surface area...so it'll probably give off like 90 degrees of heat. and most of it probably won't stay very long.

Re: Heating Pad [Re: ] #668749
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i once read somewhere that if they are around air that is too hot, they can easily get dehydrated. i have a heat emitter, & i have it set @ 70. i have a cover on the cage, & the cover goes over the emitter, so, it doesn't get any hotter than 80.
i know that temperature plays a big role in their food metabolism, too hot & too cold will really mess them up.
that's about all i know on the subject.
someone mentioned , also, some time ago about a wall heater, that you could get from ace hardware. i went there,
here in perry where i live, & they didn't have one, so, i am going to look further until i find one. des moines is just 1/2 hr away.
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Re: Heating Pad [Re: josefine] #668750
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Well just keep in mind that if you use a heating pad you are putting your gliders life at risk.

Re: Heating Pad [Re: Lynsie] #668764
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I use Oil Filled Radiator type heaters in the glider room. They are set on 600 watts and on low. When the temp goes down to 10 degrees or lower I usually flip the heaters to 900 watts each.

The beauty of the oil filled heaters is there are no heat spots in the room as the temp stays even.

A couple of years ago a breeder used an electric blanket over a cage to keep the gliders warm. This practice had been done for years with no ill effects. That is... until a wire broke and the blanket burned. Sadly the gliders died due to the smoke that filled the room.

Re: Heating Pad [Re: ] #668796
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Originally Posted By: Aidolove
oh and 102 degrees is just the surface area...so it'll probably give off like 90 degrees of heat. and most of it probably won't stay very long.
90 degrees is too warm for a healthy glider, the only time you need that much heat is for a rejected joey incubator..

Re: Heating Pad [Re: BeckiT] #669093
11/06/08 03:43 PM
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oh. I thought 90 would be good for them, since they are from Australia. I'll keep that in mind. But I will probably do some testing this weekend because I ordered my heating pad... the ones for the bunnies. it's pretty small. So I'll see what happens if I place the cage and everything in an area thats freezing cold and cool. I'll let you guys know how it turns out this weekend.

Re: Heating Pad [Re: ] #669116
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BeckiT is right. 90 degrees is more suited to a pinky (furless prem) joey! Heat pads are only suitable for the too young or too sick (and then only in the hands of someone who is experienced in their use!)

I am not sure where everyone gets the idea that Australia is always hot!! I have wild gliders in my neighbourhood and the current outdoor temp is 45 degrees(top temp today here is supposed to be 73 with thunderstorms). The gliders you see on the sugarglider cam are only half an hour from me and they are quite content in their nestbox at the same temp.

What you really need though is a companion for your single glider. It is amazing how much heat two or more sugar gliders can generate between them. I can put my hand in a nestbox outside in the middle of winter (and I wont scare you with how cold it is) and its like an oven with the heat generated from a group of gliders.

With a single glider, just provide lots of thick fleece and up the temperature of the room rather than just the cage. Best solution though..get a friend to keep your girl warm (after quarantine of course) smile

Re: Heating Pad [Re: Marz] #669128
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I have an oil filled heater ($34 at Lowes)That keeps the glider's room at 76* in the winter. They use very little electricity and are safe. I do have a thermometer in the room I check once a day to make sure it's working properly.
Heating pads are dangerous period. As a nurse I saw many burns on people from heating pads. I don't recommend them for people or animals.

Re: Heating Pad [Re: ] #669188
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I use the same type oil heater works great for the whole house, & save on gas bill. An electric heat pad is no differrent than that stupid heat rock you know who hands out. And we all aready know how bad that is. There has been at least 10 people here (some of which are highly respected members of the glider community, one lives in Austrailia around wild gilders) say that a heat pad is a bad idea, & still people refuse to listen. A small space heater is your best bet, they are cheap & you can buy them anywhere.

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