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Re: Biting. Does anyone have suggestions? [Re: ] #762589
04/08/09 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted By: Padros4
I'm following this thread as well! It's very helpful! However, I'm a tiny bit confused...I thought you are supposed to say "everything is going to be ok" when you open the cage door, and ONLY that. Why are you calling them? Or by "calling them" did you mean that you are saying "everything is going to be ok"?


All you are supposed to say is "Everything is going to be okay" That is it - nothing else should be said... grin


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Re: Biting. Does anyone have suggestions? [Re: Nicki] #762592
04/08/09 06:50 PM
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Thanks for clearing that up! It totally makes sense now that I've gone back and read some of Bourbon's original posts. smile

Re: Biting. Does anyone have suggestions? [Re: ] #762608
04/08/09 07:24 PM
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Hi guys, well, I have just gotten through reading this post as well....took me about an hour and a half! Lots of drama!

I don't have my babies yet, but Erika, I feel for you and your troubles.

Bourbon,
I would like to say that I am very into the "process".
I am reading this for future reference and to my children who-like all children--tend to want to rush into things and are so excited to hold and play with our upcoming babies in a couple of weeks.

This is very helpful! My kids have seen "King Kong" and your descriptive narrative about "seeing it through the eyes of gliders" was wonderful!
We can't wait to see what other "steps" are like in the process, and wonder....if you are not going to post them, would you mind sending them to me somehow?

I am reading everything I can get my hands on--trying to prepare for the arrivals of my three babies at the end of this month. I am sure leanring about them and actually having them is totally different, but I always feel that being prepared with knowledge is always better than not. :-)

Thanks!
Jenn

Re: Biting. Does anyone have suggestions? [Re: ] #762617
04/08/09 07:35 PM
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Just checking back on this post to see if there was anything. I'm just waiting for step two and I think I'm ready. I've got my lickily treats ready... and everything if that's what step two calls for.

YES Jenn... When she talked about king kong... I was just like WOW! That really set it in my head like glue. It was really weird... Jenn even though you say you understand... when you get your gliders you'll understand the king kong even more. It just blew my mind.

Re: Biting. Does anyone have suggestions? [Re: ] #762723
04/08/09 10:06 PM
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WHEW! Okay, I leave you all alone for 4 hours and look what happens...LOL. I have a long post coming but it might take me a while to get through, so if you're reading this Erica know that I'm working on it right now!


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Re: Biting. Does anyone have suggestions? [Re: DeeDancer] #762727
04/08/09 10:08 PM
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I know Dee!!!! Don't leave roflmao Sorry... I hope Bourbon is ok and isn't upset...

I can't wait to hear what you say! I've been patiently waiting... smile

Re: Biting. Does anyone have suggestions? [Re: DeeDancer] #762744
04/08/09 10:20 PM
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OK! What happened last night... I sat at their cage for about an hour or two telling them how much I missed them and everything was going to be ok. They kept jumping at the cage door trying to get out. Then Pixie jumped for her fith time and just stared into my eyes while I was talking and tilted her head... I busted into tears and had to leave the room so I wouldn't stress them out by crying. When I came back I made sure I was calm. And I just looked into her eyes and she kept tilting her head like a little puppy. (She has done this once before but I've never actually LOOKED into her eyes) I told her I would watch her body language more and that I was so sorry if I ever hurt her. That was a really weird moment... really felt like she was listening to me, she just sat there until I was done. It was REALLY hard to stay there the whole time without crying.

Annnnnnnd. Guess what! LOL I was watching their body language and I noticed when Pixie came out of the pouch when I called her (it's so cute when they come when they are called) her ears were up. Then when I called her some more and she jumped over to me HER EARS went down. I'm like oh god... that's upsetting. Then after a few more jumps to me I noticed her ears went up!

Pixie was so cute! She kept putting her hands on the outside of the cage to try to grab me or something. I made sure not to touch her.



This is EXACTLY what we've been trying to get you to see...it's very hard to explain, especially online, to someone that has never been looking for it before. You are NOT crazy-you can tell a TON from a gliders eyes when you are ACTUALLY looking, actually feeling it. You are definitely, definitely on the right track.

You say that you feel that you are ready. I agree with Nicki (as does Bourbon) in that I don't think your GLIDERS are ready to move on, since it was just last night that you started looking into their eyes. It was just last night that Pixie started putting her ears up when she came to the front of the cage to see you. I think that it would benefit her and that it would help to lay a really strong foundation of trust if you do the same thing you did last night again tonight. You now know how important it is to show Pixie that she can trust you, that when she comes to the front of the cage to see you that there is nothing to be anxious about, that you will continue to watch and listen for HER signs that she is ready to move forward.

So what do YOU think...do you think Pixie is ready to move on or do you think that you should give her another night to connect with you and learn that when she comes to see you she doesn't have to be nervous? Do you think that Pixie can move on tonight, or do you think that there is still more for you two to learn about each other from another night like last night?

Let me know, I'm staying on GC waiting for your answer.


~Deanna~
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Gliders: Nika, Ranger, and DeeGee

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Re: Biting. Does anyone have suggestions? [Re: DeeDancer] #762753
04/08/09 10:41 PM
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Deanna...

As much as I want to say I want to touch her and pet her... It hurts me but I'm doing it for her. I want to wait another night. When I saw her ears go up my tears started rolling from my eyes and I had to leave the room. I will wait another night not because I feel I have to... I feel that it's better. Her ears didn't go up immediately she came to me about three or four times then on the fifth time she stared at me and her ears went up... and that's when the tears started... LOL.
Will it be bad if I wait another day? I don't know if it's good or not... Because you said two days. But I really feel that one more day would do us good then tomorrow we can move onto the next step.

I want to know what you think because you'll know better than me. But I really think that we shouldn't move on tonight. But tomorrow... Do you feel the same? It's just something I saw in her eyes... I can't even explain it.

Re: Biting. Does anyone have suggestions? [Re: ] #762769
04/08/09 11:03 PM
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It will definitely NOT be bad if you wait another day. Like I said, Bourbon, Nicki and I all think that it is a good idea to give it another night like last night, so now that you agree that it's a good idea, we are all in agreement clap. I really do think that another night of talking will be a GOOD thing for you and Pixie.

It's okay if tonight it still takes her a few times to raise her ears up. You are ALREADY making progress with her! I do think that after tonight you & Pixie will be ready to move on. Tomorrow I'd like for you to make a post letting everyone know how tonight goes, and after you do that I will make a post letting you know what to do tomorrow night.

Keep up the good work!! hug2


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Gliders: Nika, Ranger, and DeeGee

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Re: Biting. Does anyone have suggestions? [Re: DeeDancer] #762771
04/08/09 11:06 PM
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Great! I'm glad you were thinking the same thing... I was a little nervous... LOL

So just do exactly the same thing as last night? No touching just same thing? smile THANK YOU SO MUCH! I'm glad I'm doing good. You guys are the reason, I couldn't do this without you.

Thank you so much! hug2

Re: Biting. Does anyone have suggestions? [Re: ] #762778
04/08/09 11:12 PM
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I have to take off... so hopefully your answer is going to be what I'm thinking. I'm just going to do what I did last night.

Thanks again hug2

Re: Biting. Does anyone have suggestions? [Re: ] #762781
04/08/09 11:17 PM
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Yep, exactly the same thing as last night. Keep looking into their eyes and keep watching their body language, just like last night. Tomorrow during the day, same thing as before...just open the cage door, tell them everything is going to be okay, close the cage door and leave. I'll let you know tomorrow what to do tomorrow night.


~Deanna~
Chinchillas: Luke, Yoda, and Pronk
Gliders: Nika, Ranger, and DeeGee

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Re: Biting. Does anyone have suggestions? [Re: ] #762784
04/08/09 11:18 PM
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Erica I am proud of you, that was a very responsible mature decision.

drama in the pastr lets keep this thread on your gliders, and the process at hand.

good luck tonight with your babies. Let us know how things went.

Re: Biting. Does anyone have suggestions? [Re: Bourbon] #762799
04/08/09 11:38 PM
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Just coming on real quick!

Deanna... GREAT! I'll be sure to do just that tonight.

Thanks Bourbon hug2 I'm glad you guys are happy... Hopefully me and my gliders are both improving. smile

I'll be sure to give an update. My babies don't get up until around midnight - one or two.

Re: Biting. Does anyone have suggestions? [Re: ] #762842
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Yay!

I'm a little late coming back into this thread...but I'm glad you waited until tomorrow - it is the definite mature decision! I back you up all the way!! Your on your way!! Keep up the good work!! grin


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Re: Biting. Does anyone have suggestions? [Re: Nicki] #762932
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