Ok, I saw this and was just curious if anyone else had seen a glider that looked like this. They are calling them "pug nose" sugar gliders. I had seen some variations in the gliders originating from different areas. This was the first one I had seen like this and it peaked my curiosity. I am always looking to learn more.
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#1061392 01/27/1102:20 AM01/27/1102:20 AM
Yes, they come along every now and then but I don't believe it is a trait that can be bred for or that it should be.
I think it would be dangerous to breed for, as there are so many vets that are just now getting experienced with gliders. In dogs, the short-nosed species are more prone to respiratory problems and such, it just sounds risky to me. I wouldn't want to introduce a breed of gliders that are that much harder to diagnose and treat, or purosefully create a line of any animal that is prone to illness.
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#1061420 01/27/1103:57 AM01/27/1103:57 AM
i think it is adorable. the nose doesnt look like it would cause any kind of breathing problems, but a vet would decide that. where did you see that? is a breeder selling them? i would like to check further.
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#1061462 01/27/1110:43 AM01/27/1110:43 AM
this is so ironic, i just go two little guys back in july and august and one guy (Pooky) looks like a spitting image of that!! we jokingly call him "special" or pug! because has a pug nose! He makes a sneeze noise alot but vet says he is fine he just has a pug nose.
He is totally cute! I thought it was just our little guy.
hey now he isn't weird hehehe..he just rides the short bus.
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#1061478 01/27/1111:14 AM01/27/1111:14 AM
I think there can be "special" in all animals. My sister has a bull mastiff dog that is "special". She is pug nosed, deaf, and has the face like a Downs Syndrome human child. They say she rides the short bus too. I agree, I wouldn't breed that into a line. It could def cause medical issues later. All dogs with pug noses that I've heard about have issues smelling and breathing.
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#1061480 01/27/1111:25 AM01/27/1111:25 AM
i will have to take some pictures of Pooky and post them here. His little pug nose is definitely cute. But I agree whole heartedly I wouldn't breed that into gliders at all. His sneezes bother me but they don't seem to bother him or his vet as of yet.
I really think that is why he isn't bonded to me yet. I have had him for 6 months and Nermal for 8 months. Nermal is definitely more bonded to me. Pooky is friendly does not crab but prefers to play by himself. I always told my husband i think it is because he does not smell me like Nermal can, i think that hinders and continues to hinder our bonding process.
ROFL!!!!!!! this convo cracks me up! that little guy is precious BUT.... like everyones said, we have to be soooo careful not to breed for things like that. with ANY creature, not just gliders...
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There is someone here in Kentucky who has this one and has a baby for sale. The baby doesn't look like the mom. I had just never seen anything like it. I sent them an email last night asking questions about it but haven't received a response yet. I am always looking to learn more on the things that go good with breeding AND the things that go wrong. I would love to see a picture of Pooky. I saw a different type of glider (not a sugar glider) that had a face like this. I will have to look and see what it was.
Pooky is adorable. The pug nose does give him such character. It is cute. Thanx for the pic.
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Just so you know, Dasher didnt have any problems with his breathing either. I wonder if something like this is genetic, or a problem with development in the pouch?
I am wondering the same thing. I wanted to do some research on it but had a death in the family this week. Maybe I will get to check it out next week and see what I find.
i would NOT buy one or breed... really if this became main stream you could have babies sufficate at birth or later on.
Dogs, like the french bulldog, when they start having breathing problems have to get an extensive, painful, and expensive surgery. If sugar gliders started to develope this there would be no surgery, just a slow death. I would not risk breeding this little guys just to get this look.
Ive seen a dog sufficate at my vet office becuase of the smoshed face... i dont want sugar gliders have that happen...
But if it happens, its recessive and it happens! Best of luck to any little cute guy like this and hope for no bad respirtory problems in the future!
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I can't say I find it an attractive feature for a glider, seeing as I'm quite fond of my pointy nosed babies... but he is cute. Still reminds me of a chipmunk though. lol
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I'd have to agree in saying I prefer the pointy nose babies.. While the link with pics was cute, I don't think I'd buy one just cause of the problems that could arise later on.
aww, i have 2 little guys. one has a 'normal' pointy nose and the baby in the famliy has a pug nose. When we got him we didn't know this wasn't normal, we actually picked him out because of it - we thought it was cute...i think my little pug nosed boy is adorable. (but i may be a bit biased as a mommy) *smiles*
Cute I think it's cute that they look different.. but personally I'm not one for smushed face animals. Don't know what it is lol, they're cute when they're someone else's animals but I'm not into owning them.
My baby Nahla had a little pug nose. Sadly our vet said she had breathing and respiratory problems, and she passed away a little fighter.
I was told it was a genetic abnormality, and there was really no treatment for it. Two fingers on her back feet were fused together, and during the necropsy we found that her little lungs didn't develop as fast as they should have.
I'm not sure it's fully related to the pug nose, but she did sneeze a lot and it was normal to her.
I have several of the "short faced" gliders. Their face looks a little rounder than the "pointy face" gliders I have. They've never had any problems. I don't consider them to be pug nosed. I've seen so many of these "short faced" gliders, I think it's just the way these are normally meant to be.
This is a syndrome called Brachycephaly or brachycephalic "flat head syndrome" common in Down Syndrome. It is when the coronal suture fuses prematurely, causing a shortened front to back diameter of the skull. The coronal suture is the joint that unites the frontal bone with the two parietal bones of the skull. The parietal bones form the top and sides of the skull.
It is used to describe a "normal" developmentally type of skull with a high cephalic index ie the snub nosed breeds of dogs and cats.
Basically its a birth defect and we now have "normal" dogs and cats like this because WE as humans purposely bred for that feature. I agree with NOT breeding these types of gliders. It seems some are not living very long anyways.