Join Us On Facebook
|
|
|
Non-stick cookware...toxic?
#1064091
01/31/11 08:33 PM
01/31/11 08:33 PM
|
katieBodn
Unregistered
|
katieBodn
Unregistered
|
I'm not sure if this is the right section to post this into, so feel free to move it . I was wondering if cooking with non-stick cookware is really dangerous to our gliders?
|
|
|
Re: Non-stick cookware...toxic?
[Re: ]
#1064092
01/31/11 08:35 PM
01/31/11 08:35 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 714 Nova Scotia, Canada
sunjana1
Glider Guardian
|
Glider Guardian
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 714
Nova Scotia, Canada
|
I kept reading stuff that said its toxic to PEOPLE so I got rid of all mine. Who knows if any of it's really true or not.
Jana - Tim
|
|
|
Re: Non-stick cookware...toxic?
[Re: ]
#1064094
01/31/11 08:37 PM
01/31/11 08:37 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 423 Florida
Teresa56
Glider Lover
|
Glider Lover
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 423
Florida
|
I have read only if you over heat it, then it gives off toxic fumes. It is only what I have read, I am no expert so wait for one of them to answer you.
Mom to JayP Owned by 2 :kitty: Slave to 2 colonies Colony #1= Trio Skeeter and MissHarmony and Miss Sanora Colony # 2 pair Flora and her huney Freddy
|
|
|
Re: Non-stick cookware...toxic?
[Re: Teresa56]
#1064100
01/31/11 08:50 PM
01/31/11 08:50 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 4,182 Maine
IslandGliders
Glider Addict
|
Glider Addict
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 4,182
Maine
|
I have read only if you over heat it, then it gives off toxic fumes. It is only what I have read, I am no expert so wait for one of them to answer you. This is what I have heard as well; that it's only dangerous should you forget and leave a skillet on a burner that's on. I just am always very mindful to turn off burners.
|
|
|
Re: Non-stick cookware...toxic?
[Re: ]
#1064107
01/31/11 08:58 PM
01/31/11 08:58 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 10,983 Denton, TX
ValkyrieMome
Glideritis Anonymous
|
Glideritis Anonymous
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 10,983
Denton, TX
|
What you don't know is that it actually "overheats" at a relatively low temperature. So, it can overheat even at normal cooking temperatures. If you ever go to a bird forum, you will be stunned by the number of pet birds who lose their lives due to the toxic fumes from tefflon and other non-stick coatings. It is not allowed in my house - because I have a bird. But, it is equally toxic to gliders ... and to humans, actually. We just have much bigger systems, so it would take more poison to kill us. Many people get headaches from tefflon and don't even realize that's what is giving them a headache.
Alden "Animals can communicate quite well. And they do. And generally speaking, they are ignored." Alice Walker
Mom to Valhalla; 6 cats; 1 macaw; 2 hedgehogs; and very many great gliders!
(plus the 2 skin kids) valkyriegliders.com
Kyrie, nothing will ever fill the hole you left in my heart.
|
|
|
Re: Non-stick cookware...toxic?
[Re: ]
#1064122
01/31/11 09:21 PM
01/31/11 09:21 PM
|
lovely1inred
Unregistered
|
lovely1inred
Unregistered
|
I've cooked with non-stick teflon pans and skillets and not had any problems, and have had gliders on me at the time....never had a problem I think the jury is still out on this one. I can't imagine that mine are a better quality or anything...I buy cheap Walmart stuff a lot...but I don't doubt bird owners losing precious pets either.
|
|
|
Re: Non-stick cookware...toxic?
[Re: ]
#1064133
01/31/11 09:31 PM
01/31/11 09:31 PM
|
katieBodn
Unregistered
|
katieBodn
Unregistered
|
Oh if it was up to me I would forbid it in our house too, but it's not . It's being used pretty often here, but I always make sure that Fluffy is upstairs.
|
|
|
Re: Non-stick cookware...toxic?
[Re: ]
#1064138
01/31/11 09:33 PM
01/31/11 09:33 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 10,983 Denton, TX
ValkyrieMome
Glideritis Anonymous
|
Glideritis Anonymous
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 10,983
Denton, TX
|
Right - and people feed pellet diets or Cheetoh diets and "never have a problem" ... right up until they do! The jury is NOT out - it is proven that teflon produces toxic gas. You can find many many studies proving this. Additionally, if you use "the cheap stuff" you should know that as soon as it starts flaking off, it also becomes a carcinogen. You can chose to gamble with the little lives entrusted in your care. But - there is not a doubt that teflon produces toxic gas. That is not something that is debatable. Further - if it is called "teflon" or something else - all non-stick coatings currently on the market contain the toxic-gas-producing chemicals. There is a reason canaries are used in coal mines! The body of a bird is basically one feathered air sack. They are extremely efficient - and replace something like 90% of the air in their lungs with each breath. Therefore, they are going to rapidly succumb to any air-born toxin. Perhaps gliders aren't quite as efficient with their breathing - so it might take them 10 or 20 breaths to inhale the same amount of toxin that a bird gets with one. Are you really going to risk that? Just so you can save a little time and effort on clean up?
Alden "Animals can communicate quite well. And they do. And generally speaking, they are ignored." Alice Walker
Mom to Valhalla; 6 cats; 1 macaw; 2 hedgehogs; and very many great gliders!
(plus the 2 skin kids) valkyriegliders.com
Kyrie, nothing will ever fill the hole you left in my heart.
|
|
|
Re: Non-stick cookware...toxic?
[Re: ]
#1064149
01/31/11 09:40 PM
01/31/11 09:40 PM
|
katieBodn
Unregistered
|
katieBodn
Unregistered
|
I've cooked with non-stick teflon pans and skillets and not had any problems, and have had gliders on me at the time....never had a problem Really? So maybe it's ok if I leave Fluffy on me while I'm near the kitchen ? I feel a little bad for Fluffy if he's in my bra and I have to go put him in his cage pouch because of it... That's why I was asking this question in the first place.
|
|
|
Re: Non-stick cookware...toxic?
[Re: ValkyrieMome]
#1064154
01/31/11 09:44 PM
01/31/11 09:44 PM
|
katieBodn
Unregistered
|
katieBodn
Unregistered
|
You're right. I don't wanna risk that
|
|
|
Re: Non-stick cookware...toxic?
[Re: ]
#1064156
01/31/11 09:45 PM
01/31/11 09:45 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 10,983 Denton, TX
ValkyrieMome
Glideritis Anonymous
|
Glideritis Anonymous
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 10,983
Denton, TX
|
Google search "Teflon toxicity." Here are some facts, from the website tuberose.com/teflon : "In two to five minutes on a conventional stovetop, cookware coated with Teflon and other non-stick surfaces can exceed temperatures at which the coating breaks apart and emits toxic particles and gases linked to hundreds, perhaps thousands, of pet bird deaths and an unknown number of human illnesses each year." The article goes on from there ... it is pretty clear. The gas releases EIGHT known carcinogens.
Alden "Animals can communicate quite well. And they do. And generally speaking, they are ignored." Alice Walker
Mom to Valhalla; 6 cats; 1 macaw; 2 hedgehogs; and very many great gliders!
(plus the 2 skin kids) valkyriegliders.com
Kyrie, nothing will ever fill the hole you left in my heart.
|
|
|
Re: Non-stick cookware...toxic?
[Re: ]
#1064179
01/31/11 10:10 PM
01/31/11 10:10 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 608 Cincinnati, Ohio
North_Nocturne
Glider Lover
|
Glider Lover
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 608
Cincinnati, Ohio
|
What about the new generation of non-stick cookware like Green Pan?
Elizabeth gliders. Nocturne & Lark
|
|
|
Re: Non-stick cookware...toxic?
[Re: ]
#1065238
02/02/11 04:32 PM
02/02/11 04:32 PM
|
MJ111
Unregistered
|
MJ111
Unregistered
|
Scratched Teflon cookware is especially dangerous because the heat brings out the cancer-causing chemicals even moreso when scratched (or something along those lines) i have heard and read online . . .
|
|
|
Re: Non-stick cookware...toxic?
[Re: sunjana1]
#1065445
02/02/11 10:00 PM
02/02/11 10:00 PM
|
Tyger
Unregistered
|
Tyger
Unregistered
|
I've also heard that Teflon and non-stick coated pans are toxic. I have a couple that I got as wedding presents and I'm in the process of replacing them with stainless steel. The gases emitted during cooking can kill birds and small rodents quickly, so I'd assume that sugar gliders would be susceptible as well.
|
|
|
Re: Non-stick cookware...toxic?
[Re: JillMarie]
#1065798
02/03/11 01:05 PM
02/03/11 01:05 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 608 Cincinnati, Ohio
North_Nocturne
Glider Lover
|
Glider Lover
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 608
Cincinnati, Ohio
|
Green Pan is non-stick cookware that doesn't use Teflon, it uses Thermolon. It's sold by HSN.
Elizabeth gliders. Nocturne & Lark
|
|
|
Re: Non-stick cookware...toxic?
[Re: ]
#1124365
06/05/11 06:42 PM
06/05/11 06:42 PM
|
target1911
Unregistered
|
target1911
Unregistered
|
I hate non-stick lined pans anyway...and I've always heard they were very toxic. I preferred cast iron or stainless. My dad almost killed one of his African Grey Parrots by over heating a teflon pan. The bird let out a loud scream like he was in pain and my dad noticed the pan. I don't remember what else happened to the bird but he pulled through. My Dad also cleared the house of all coated pans.
|
|
|
Re: Non-stick cookware...toxic?
[Re: ]
#1124918
06/06/11 06:11 PM
06/06/11 06:11 PM
|
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 87 Gardendale, Alabama
altinker
Joey Member
|
Joey Member
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 87
Gardendale, Alabama
|
Beware of oven clearers too. Fumes are very toxic to small animals.
Proud Mom of: 2 grown human babies 2 canine babies 1 shell covered baby (turtle) 1 turbo rat baby (ferret) 7 spoiled glider babies I think I have a house full!!!
|
|
|
Re: Non-stick cookware...toxic?
[Re: ]
#1199967
12/04/11 12:45 PM
12/04/11 12:45 PM
|
rebecca_ide
Unregistered
|
rebecca_ide
Unregistered
|
Would it be better to move my sugargliders to another room and close the door when cooking? i live in a garage apartment.
|
|
|
Re: Non-stick cookware...toxic?
[Re: ]
#1200648
12/05/11 09:25 PM
12/05/11 09:25 PM
|
west721love
Unregistered
|
west721love
Unregistered
|
it's crazy to know that people would make something that when heated can release toxic chemicals..and then use it for cooking pans.. it just doesnt make much sense lol. My mom recently got rediagnosed with breast cancer so we promptly threw away all of our teflon pans and whatnot. it's just not worth the risks, and honeslty I think regular pans are easier to clean. Teflon always seemed greasy even after cleaning them.
|
|
|
Re: Non-stick cookware...toxic?
[Re: ]
#1200732
12/05/11 11:18 PM
12/05/11 11:18 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 423 Florida
Teresa56
Glider Lover
|
Glider Lover
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 423
Florida
|
I have been moving away from all non stick ware and going to either glass or cast iron. Cast iron is very non stick if it is seasoned well and not washed with soap. sounds nasty but it is the truth
Mom to JayP Owned by 2 :kitty: Slave to 2 colonies Colony #1= Trio Skeeter and MissHarmony and Miss Sanora Colony # 2 pair Flora and her huney Freddy
|
|
|
Re: Non-stick cookware...toxic?
[Re: ]
#1200887
12/06/11 10:09 AM
12/06/11 10:09 AM
|
Kaylee
Unregistered
|
Kaylee
Unregistered
|
This was sent in reply to some thing I was ranting about on another (I was going on about apple juice and teflon and how do we ever know whats really safe and blah blah blah, it was 4 in the morning and I dont actually remember the point I was trying to make xD ) But if this helps one way or the other or even not at all, I'd like to know what y'all think. I never once in my previous post said any thing about cancer or PFOA (idk what that is. I'm guessing the poison?) Here it is... Sara said... I applaud the idea of creating a safer home, and because there's so much misinformation out there about the Teflon® brand, I'm not surprised that you are concerned. I'm a representative of DuPont though, and hope you'll let me share some information with you and your readers, so that everyone can make truly informed decisions. In regards to PFOA and cancer - The weight of evidence gathered from a number of significant health studies continues to indicate to us that there is no health risk to the general public from exposure to PFOA. Additionally, no authoritative body has designated PFOA as a human carcinogen. The U.S. EPA stated that it is premature to conclude that PFOA causes cancer. For more information, please visit www.epa.gov/oppt/pfoa/pubs/pfoarisk.html. http://www.docstoc.com/docs/100656224/Consumer-Reports---June-2007and www.pfoa.dupont.com can provide you with additional information.
Last edited by Kaylee; 12/06/11 10:11 AM.
|
|
|
Re: Non-stick cookware...toxic?
[Re: ]
#1202123
12/08/11 06:46 PM
12/08/11 06:46 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 5,830 USA
SugarBlossoms
Serious Glideritis
|
Serious Glideritis
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 5,830
USA
|
I will stick to the "when in doubt, throw it out" on this one and that's exactly what I did many years ago. I use cast iron or stainless steel.
Sugar Gliders should not be in an area you are cooking, no matter what you are cooking with. Just like a human child, it would only take that one split second for a tragedy to happen.
Keeper of Handprints on my Heart, You left your Footprints on my soul. My precious loves that left to quickly, Peanut, Katie Isabella, Kiwi, Bonnie and Monroe.
Spread your wings and glide free of pain, Until the day I see you again.
God speed my precious angels. I love you. Mama.
|
|
|
Re: Non-stick cookware...toxic?
[Re: ]
#1235453
03/05/12 02:32 AM
03/05/12 02:32 AM
|
MeganAnn
Unregistered
|
MeganAnn
Unregistered
|
I agree, I think it's crazy that that can be made. I don't use the spray anyway, but I'm glad that this fear has been reienforced and is poseted here as a warning. Thanks everyone!
|
|
|
Re: Non-stick cookware...toxic?
[Re: ]
#1235577
03/05/12 01:41 PM
03/05/12 01:41 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 390 Mabelvale, Arkansas
ColonyMama
Glider Lover
|
Glider Lover
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 390
Mabelvale, Arkansas
|
No one spoke to the Orgeeenic pan "green pan" as mentioned above. Does anyone know? I have 2 of these.
Lisa Kasper Aspen Wallaby Brauster Shilo two JRT's males Scout and Spencer 4 skin kids Danny-29, JR-20, Amber-16, and Wesley-3 2 grandsons Matthew--4 and Michael--3
|
|
|
Re: Non-stick cookware...toxic?
[Re: ColonyMama]
#1235584
03/05/12 02:04 PM
03/05/12 02:04 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 499 indiana
mandymarleann
Glider Lover
|
Glider Lover
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 499
indiana
|
yes it is toxic. I have a macaw and I can not cook with any or it could potentinally kill him. I also can not bake in my oven over 396 or use my self cleaning oven. That is all non stick as well and could kill my macaw. Now for humans it is still bad. Many chip over time and that get into the food you eat! the EPA has asked for their complete withdrawal from the marketplace by 2015. I use stainless steel or Cast iron
|
|
|
|
Please click above to see how you can help!!
|
|
0 registered members (),
520
guests, and 91
spiders. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
Owner,
Admin
|
|
Forums132
Topics10,374
Posts159,161
posts in the last 24hrs0
Members7,324
|
Most Online2,693 Jan 2nd, 2020
|
|
This site was tested and is best
viewed in Google Chrome & Mozilla FireFox
Download your copy today!!!
|
|
|