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Heartbroken *Updated*
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03/08/12 10:18 PM
03/08/12 10:18 PM
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Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 248 Texas
Countryncrafty
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My glider Cab came from a mill breeder-I didn't know this when I bought him. Said mill breeder also told me to buy only 1-even though I wanted 2. Anyway I met the man before looked at the websites he gave me, then bought Cab a few months later. Needless to say the info was wrong. A nice local breeder (Cora) became my mentor & even said I could have a rehome trio of girls. I didn't want joeys so I said I'd neuter him. Also per her advise I took Cab to the vet...turns out he had/has tri-trech. It's been a few weeks but we decided it's in the best interest of the bonded trio for them not to come home with me. I'm so heartbroken & now not only do the girls not get to come home with me, but also Cab doesn't get a cage mate to bond with :*(
Last edited by gliderdad79; 03/19/12 05:04 PM. Reason: title edited by request
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Re: Heartbroken *Updated*
[Re: Cora]
#1237165
03/08/12 11:24 PM
03/08/12 11:24 PM
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Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 20,093 North Central Ohio
GliderNursery
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How can Cab have friends if he will always have tri trichs????? Are you saying that there is no way to get rid of tri trichs or cure the glider of them??
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Re: Heartbroken *Updated*
[Re: GliderNursery]
#1237166
03/08/12 11:28 PM
03/08/12 11:28 PM
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Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,516 North Dakota
kjgoulet
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How can Cab have friends if he will always have tri trichs????? Are you saying that there is no way to get rid of tri trichs or cure the glider of them?? That's the same question going through my head.. I don't really even truly know what it is.
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Re: Heartbroken *Updated*
[Re: Countryncrafty]
#1237170
03/08/12 11:32 PM
03/08/12 11:32 PM
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Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 2,839 roseville, mi
hwh4ev
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it is tritrichomonas. there are different strains of it. tritec. has been going around our glider community, there is alot of info on lgg abt. this. tritec. does respond to the correct meds. once the glider is cleared of the tritec. there is no reason it can not have a buddy or 2. some breeders are breeding gliders that had this. those of you that are on lgg, i suggest you read abt. this for more info. regards, nancy in detroit
regards, nancy in roseville (formerly in detroit)
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Re: Heartbroken *Updated*
[Re: Countryncrafty]
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03/08/12 11:34 PM
03/08/12 11:34 PM
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Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 360 Southern Illinois
rach
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In all my readings I have never heard of this. I am still new Less than a year in but I have read alot. I hope someone can figure this out that has been in gliders alot longer and let us know what it is, if its curable, etc. I am very curious about this problem. And I do want this little guy to be ok and get to have friends one day. Its terrible that mill breeders don't care about their gliders.
Raychell Stayton My  Daria  Maddox  Nadia  Sampson
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Re: Heartbroken *Updated*
[Re: hwh4ev]
#1237177
03/08/12 11:38 PM
03/08/12 11:38 PM
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Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 20,093 North Central Ohio
GliderNursery
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those of you that are on lgg, i suggest you read abt. this for more info.
regards, nancy in detroit For the benefit of GliderCENTRAL members, I'd like the details to be discussed here as well. Not everyone is a member of LGG. I just started another post: Tritrichomonas/Tri Trichs
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Re: Heartbroken *Updated*
[Re: hwh4ev]
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03/08/12 11:38 PM
03/08/12 11:38 PM
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Joined: Mar 2010
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DCMuffin
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it is tritrichomonas. there are different strains of it. tritec. has been going around our glider community, there is alot of info on lgg abt. this. tritec. does respond to the correct meds. once the glider is cleared of the tritec. there is no reason it can not have a buddy or 2. some breeders are breeding gliders that had this. those of you that are on lgg, i suggest you read abt. this for more info. regards, nancy in detroit This is my understanding of it up to this point but thought maybe I'd missed something.
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Re: Heartbroken *Updated*
[Re: Countryncrafty]
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03/08/12 11:40 PM
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Countryncrafty
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"Tri-trech" isnt the full name I just can't spell it lol. From what I understand its a protazoa parasite that "flares" around 4/5weeks making the glider lose their fur but the fur grows back by 8weeks ish. It lays dormant but comes back during times of stress (then with medicine) can/will go dormant again. it can't be passed to humans but yes to pets through feces. vet said if a reptile has it its not a big deal but she's never seem it in gliders. :*((((((
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Re: Heartbroken *Updated*
[Re: Countryncrafty]
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03/09/12 12:17 AM
03/09/12 12:17 AM
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Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 2,839 roseville, mi
hwh4ev
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yes, there have been and there is right now a glider being treated for tritec. it is in the glider community.
cats carry it and it can be transferred to gliders.
regards, nancy in detroit p.s. i am not saying cats were at fault in these cases as i dont know how the gliders got it.
regards, nancy in roseville (formerly in detroit)
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Re: Heartbroken *Updated*
[Re: hwh4ev]
#1237230
03/09/12 12:39 AM
03/09/12 12:39 AM
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Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,710 Washington
tjlong
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it is tritrichomonas. there are different strains of it. tritec. has been going around our glider community, there is alot of info on lgg abt. this. tritec. does respond to the correct meds. once the glider is cleared of the tritec. there is no reason it can not have a buddy or 2. some breeders are breeding gliders that had this. those of you that are on lgg, i suggest you read abt. this for more info. regards, nancy in detroit Nancy, this is t necessarily completely true.  Unfortunately, there is no guarantee tric is curable. There hasn't been enough of it in gliders to know if it is just lowered in numbers or completely 'cured'. Many gliders that have giardia are treated and show negative for giardia in one test. Are they cured? Some yes, some a very resounding No! Many people believe you can only know definitely it is cured if an antigen test shows it's clear. With tric we can barely find them much less k ow for sure they are gone for good. I do know probiotics help change the gut flora so that they don't grab hold, so to speak, and multiply. We are trying to get a research facility interested so that we can get more info on how it affects gliders, what strain it is, DNA that strain and then get a test put together to identify it. This isn't going to happen overnight. We definitely need to keep it in check and try not to spread it farther if/when it is diagnosed. What type test was used to diagnose in OP's case here?
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Re: Heartbroken *Updated*
[Re: Countryncrafty]
#1237240
03/09/12 01:17 AM
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Countryncrafty
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Originally my vet didnt know what it was. She did a fecal smear/float. Said it looked kinda like giardia, but didnt move like giardia &the float didnt have any eggs. I talked to Cora who contacted Chris who then called me, recieved the vets number & called her. After discussion decided it was tri-trech. I have also talked to Ms. Sardou about this but havent had the chance to update her if anyone is wondering 
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Re: Heartbroken *Updated*
[Re: Countryncrafty]
#1237242
03/09/12 01:30 AM
03/09/12 01:30 AM
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Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 22,748 80 acres of paradise in KS
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Nadine's joeys did NOT have tri-trich. Her ill joeys all recovered except one that died NOT from the illness but from being tube fed and aspirating the formula.
620-704-9109 Judge not until you have walked in their shoes and lived their lives. What you see online is only part of the story.
I could have missed the pain But I'd of had to miss the dance
The soul would have no rainbow if the eyes had no tears.
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Re: Heartbroken *Updated*
[Re: Dancing]
#1237256
03/09/12 02:23 AM
03/09/12 02:23 AM
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Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,710 Washington
tjlong
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Nadine's joeys did NOT have tri-trich. Not completely accurate. Idexx found swimmers that were, originally stated by Nadine as a form of trich. Possibly Pentatrich, possibly tritrich. Nothing definitive in any direction. The Colorado lab a separate sample was sent to at a later date stated they saw tritrich but could not identify the strain. I believe it was also stated it had traits that resembled the muris strain. Here again, we do not know what strain of trich may be infecting our gliders at this point and we do not know if it is curable, or exactly what it will do in our gliders. Different strains cause different things to happen in many animals.
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Re: Heartbroken *Updated*
[Re: Countryncrafty]
#1237258
03/09/12 02:32 AM
03/09/12 02:32 AM
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Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,889 Springfield/Eugene, OR
kitsune
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Nadine's info page about the illnesses she recently had to deal with mentions that her gliders tested positive for tri trich, but it was benign and not the reason they were so sick, and it says that her vet has determined that the tri trich is no longer present. This took us longer to diagnose than it normally would because we discovered a single tritrichomonad in a fecal test. Subsequent testing revealed that it was NOT of a harmful variety and nothing to worry about, however, it took the focus away from the fur when we were worried that it may have been a parasite. We did PCR (DNA) testing on the fecal material to determine that the trichomonad was not of a harmful variety.
Beth  Glide free  Dimitri and Tegan  and right-side up!
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