Join Us On Facebook
|
|
|
Re: What happened?
[Re: Nicole]
#1377069
09/02/14 01:57 PM
09/02/14 01:57 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 7,748 New Jersey
JillMarie
Serious Glideritis
|
Serious Glideritis
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 7,748
New Jersey
|
but rather standoffish to new members. We will ask questions and luckily get two responses, meanwhile threads by veterans of the forums will skyrocket in replies.
I need a thoughtful looking smilie that is rubbing his chin... I am going to go WAAYYYY out on a limb here, speaking as an old timer...and I am sure this is not how everyone feels...and PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do not get offended...but perhaps maybe possibly as old timers we have answered those same questions HUNDREDS of times, and quite frankly the answers are all already here if one just looks for them. Its different when its a question of a different angle, but when someone says "whats the best diet" or " what is better pouches or nesting boxes" or "is zucchini safe" I groan and say "not again" Of course its different in an emergency. But even emergency threads should be titled correctly such as "HELP my glider is____" and not just "help" and then the question is "is zucchini safe" (which isnt an emergency) So try to understand that sometimes us old timers get frustrated too. I check GC about 2 or 3 times a day, but I admit I dont always sign in, and I no longer reply to every thread like I used to.
|
|
|
Re: What happened?
[Re: JillMarie]
#1377076
09/02/14 04:52 PM
09/02/14 04:52 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 18 Virginia
Nicole
New Member
|
New Member
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 18
Virginia
|
No offense taken, but now it's my turn.
So please don't take offense.
Didn't you yourself at some point not know everything, and had to ask questions? Even though in this day and age a lot of questions have answers on the net or in books, they are always disputed elsewhere. It's confusing out here for new owners and enthusiasts.
If you yourself don't want to help others because it annoys you to see people barely struggle among the endless menagerie of disputed research and argumentative knowledge because, in your opinion, the answers are there; then that's okay.
GC didn't draft you to be a primary resource to aid others. It's not in the terms and conditions for you to volunteer know-how because of your activity level here or how long you've been posting on the forums. Plus no one is pointing fingers nor trying to say anyone is wrong or right in what they do.
I was just speaking from a new member's perspective, just as you spoke from your veteran's point of view. Glider Central advertises about how it's a community for sugar glider owners and lovers looking to connect and basically network; share ideas, stories, and et cetera. In my opinion, however, I just find it highly judgmental and a tad bit rude for folks to assume people don't look for answers, or research, or try to exhaust resources before asking questions. Not everyone is 100% savvy with the net, or reading, or locating others like them in their area to communicate with.
At the end of the day, the only dumb question is one not asked, and the only dumb answer is one never given.
Glider Parent in training!
The only silly questions out there are the ones never asked.
I can't fix stupid, but I can xray it!
|
|
|
Re: What happened?
[Re: JillMarie]
#1377078
09/02/14 04:57 PM
09/02/14 04:57 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 149 Massachusetts
Hamlet
Joey Member
|
Joey Member
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 149
Massachusetts
|
Quite right, we as new members need to also be responsible for our own education, and that includes searching old threads and rereading previous posts before asking questions. I am just as guilty of merely asking questions without checking the appropriate threads, whether due to ignorance on my part or laziness. We are our own best advocates and thereby the best (and only) advocate of our gliders. The weight of this responsibility cannot be emphasized enough. but rather standoffish to new members. We will ask questions and luckily get two responses, meanwhile threads by veterans of the forums will skyrocket in replies.
I need a thoughtful looking smilie that is rubbing his chin... I am going to go WAAYYYY out on a limb here, speaking as an old timer...and I am sure this is not how everyone feels...and PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do not get offended...but perhaps maybe possibly as old timers we have answered those same questions HUNDREDS of times, and quite frankly the answers are all already here if one just looks for them. Its different when its a question of a different angle, but when someone says "whats the best diet" or " what is better pouches or nesting boxes" or "is zucchini safe" I groan and say "not again" Of course its different in an emergency. But even emergency threads should be titled correctly such as "HELP my glider is____" and not just "help" and then the question is "is zucchini safe" (which isnt an emergency) So try to understand that sometimes us old timers get frustrated too. I check GC about 2 or 3 times a day, but I admit I dont always sign in, and I no longer reply to every thread like I used to.
Trust is the quintessential bond, it is the foundation from which love thrives.
Discipline must be learned before desire is to be filled.
Patience is the eloquence of nature, and maturity of thought.
|
|
|
Re: What happened?
[Re: Hamlet]
#1377079
09/02/14 05:07 PM
09/02/14 05:07 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,816 Longview, Texas
Kris_N_Zoe
Glider Slave
|
Glider Slave
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,816
Longview, Texas
|
[quote=Hamlet] Quite right, we as new members need to also be responsible for our own education, and that includes searching old threads and rereading previous posts before asking questions. I am just as guilty of merely asking questions without checking the appropriate threads, whether due to ignorance on my part or laziness. We are our own best advocates and thereby the best (and only) advocate of our gliders. The weight of this responsibility cannot be emphasized enough. **2 cents** I asked Peggy(Srlb) lots of diet-related questions because I didn't think to look at older posts where the information was already available so I'm claiming ignorance.
Pibble pup Jenson Glide free: Smoke (6/16/15) and Zoey (10/2/15)
|
|
|
Re: What happened?
[Re: Hamlet]
#1377080
09/02/14 05:10 PM
09/02/14 05:10 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,816 Longview, Texas
Kris_N_Zoe
Glider Slave
|
Glider Slave
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,816
Longview, Texas
|
Quite right, we as new members need to also be responsible for our own education, and that includes searching old threads and rereading previous posts before asking questions. I am just as guilty of merely asking questions without checking the appropriate threads, whether due to ignorance on my part or laziness. We are our own best advocates and thereby the best (and only) advocate of our gliders. The weight of this responsibility cannot be emphasized enough.
[/quote] **2 cents** I asked Peggy(Srlb) lots of diet-related questions because I didn't think to look at older posts where the information was already available so I'm claiming ignorance.
Pibble pup Jenson Glide free: Smoke (6/16/15) and Zoey (10/2/15)
|
|
|
Re: What happened?
[Re: Srlb]
#1377081
09/02/14 05:34 PM
09/02/14 05:34 PM
|
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,008 Greeley, CO
Usha77
Glider Addict
|
Glider Addict
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,008
Greeley, CO
|
Not to mention the urgent or emergent times when a prompt response is of utmost Iimportance...
Brenda 970-616-2872
Gliders: Eugene, Sandy, Seri; Bobbi, Spice; Star, Squiddi; Pearl, Pip; Petrie; Jimny, Pinocchio; Anna & Elsa Dogs: Nacho & Dory RIP my glider angels: Nynaeve, Poppy, Lan, Toffee, Zoey, Tika & Tas www.sugargroup.org
|
|
|
Re: What happened?
[Re: Srlb]
#1377082
09/02/14 05:35 PM
09/02/14 05:35 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 20,093 North Central Ohio
GliderNursery
Tech Admn
|
Tech Admn
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 20,093
North Central Ohio
|
Wow, this thread has been busy! I am absolutely loving the dialog between everyone. Our community has changed. An example of what occurred in a post 5+ years ago is a perfect example of how things are not done here today. We learn, we grow, we move forward. As KarenE said, we will always maintain as drama free environment as we can on GliderCENTRAL. We truly are here for the owners and the gliders. If we live in the past, we'll never improve the future. And that's what we want to do. Take a look around (those that are more veteran members), you can clearly see a change here. Less activity for one, which we hope to increase, and a significant lack of drama. We want this to continue being a fun and educational resource for glider owners everywhere. We can only do that with our wonderful members! I'm very disheartened to read that newbies feel that we (members in general) are being standoffish with them. This is something that I will most definitely be keeping an eye on. We want everyone to feel like every question they ask is worth our time in answering. Yes, I agree, sometimes it does get old answering the same ol, same ol. But we need to do it anyway, either by giving a quality response or simply linking to a previous post with the same information. I have to say that I have a new perspective of the newbies out there. Since I joined her 7 years ago, I definitely no longer fit the newbie category. However, since this year venturing into a new pet species, I am a newbie in every sense of the word there. I am asking those "same ol, same ol" questions. And I quickly thought to myself, I really need to remember what it was like to be in their shoes when I respond here on GliderCENTRAL. One thing to consider though, right now there aren't a lot of different veteran owners here. So if one adequately answers a question, I probably won't join in on that thread unless I have something additional to offer. So please don't think its because we are being standoffish, it may be because the question was already answered. If it wasn't, then having this brought to our attention, we'll be sure to try to be more proactive from now on. Hamlet, as far as a mobile version, or an app for GliderCENTRAL, it unfortunately isn't available to us right now. I wish it were, because you are right, technology is heavily moving in that direction. When and if it ever becomes available through the program, you can bet that we will look into it and decide if we feel it a 'safe' avenue to take (potential security issues, etc.). Again to reiterate what KarenE said, if any of you have any suggestions to enhance and improve GliderCENTRAL, please let either of us know! We are working on a few things to 'fun it up' around here now. We're all ears!
|
|
|
Re: What happened?
[Re: GliderNursery]
#1377085
09/02/14 05:43 PM
09/02/14 05:43 PM
|
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,008 Greeley, CO
Usha77
Glider Addict
|
Glider Addict
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,008
Greeley, CO
|
with Shelly. I started a facebook group for my state and asked veteran community members from other states to join in order to help the new glider owners. We are frequently answering the same questions, but I am okay with that. As a mentor and a glider owner of over 7 1/2 years, I am more than happy to help people & gliders. I often tell people there are no stupid questions & to ask me anything...if I don't know the answer I'll help them find it. I'm also trying to be more active on the forums, but that is coming slowly...lol. I had a very long break from the majority of the online glider world and have been trying to inch my way back.
Brenda 970-616-2872
Gliders: Eugene, Sandy, Seri; Bobbi, Spice; Star, Squiddi; Pearl, Pip; Petrie; Jimny, Pinocchio; Anna & Elsa Dogs: Nacho & Dory RIP my glider angels: Nynaeve, Poppy, Lan, Toffee, Zoey, Tika & Tas www.sugargroup.org
|
|
|
Re: What happened?
[Re: Srlb]
#1377095
09/02/14 06:45 PM
09/02/14 06:45 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 630 Albany, New York
Typhoonkitty
Glider Lover
|
Glider Lover
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 630
Albany, New York
|
If I was a little more tech savvy in the programming area, I'd do it, but all I can do is program a simple calculator protocol before I start throwing things across the room, haha. Trying to program a mobile site for tablets and phones is beyond me. Ask me to fix the older electronics though, and there's a good shot I can get that old NES working....
"There are no happy endings because nothing ends."
Mom/Slave to three kitties: Hemitite, Miki, and Shade
And two gliders: Jasper and Kiki
Over the Rainbow: Buster (12/16/14)
|
|
|
Re: What happened?
[Re: Srlb]
#1377096
09/02/14 06:48 PM
09/02/14 06:48 PM
|
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,008 Greeley, CO
Usha77
Glider Addict
|
Glider Addict
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,008
Greeley, CO
|
Hmmm...may have to find an old NES and send it your way...I miss Q*Bert & Super Mario Bros.!!!
Brenda 970-616-2872
Gliders: Eugene, Sandy, Seri; Bobbi, Spice; Star, Squiddi; Pearl, Pip; Petrie; Jimny, Pinocchio; Anna & Elsa Dogs: Nacho & Dory RIP my glider angels: Nynaeve, Poppy, Lan, Toffee, Zoey, Tika & Tas www.sugargroup.org
|
|
|
Re: What happened?
[Re: Srlb]
#1377116
09/02/14 08:25 PM
09/02/14 08:25 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 5,138 Lutz Florida
CandyOtte
Serious Glideritis
|
Serious Glideritis
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 5,138
Lutz Florida
|
Nicole: We will ask questions and luckily get two responses, meanwhile threads by veterans of the forums will skyrocket in replies. As Shelly said, there are many times a question has a few replies before I read it for the first time - if I feel the reply has answered the question I do not see any reason to repeat what has been said. If I feel a point has been left out, or if some of the reply is incorrect - they I add any additional information to complete the answer or clarify what has been said. There were times in the past when a question was answered and 30 additional "I agree" responses followed - none of which added any additional information to the reply to the original post - but some folks thought they had to bump up their post count by putting SOMETHING in each and every topic. Thankfully, we seem to have out grown that phase as a community. As for the many replies to threads by veterans of the forum, most of those are leaning toward a general conversation rather than just asking a question. The two types of threads are very different - a specific question needs an answer. A thread that introduces an idea that will generate many additional thoughts along the same lines (such as this thread) leads to a more prolonged discussion. I do not think the number of replies is directly tied to the original poster being a 'newby' or a 'veteran' Personally I find the few face book pages I have stumbled on to be disjointed and confusing. I would have to spend 24/7 reading all the pages trying to glean a bit of specific information from the scattered ideas and topics. At least here, I can read and respond to topics that interest me or that I feel I can help others with - and I don't have to read topics and discussions in other areas of the forum where I would have little information to add. There is structure to the forum which works well for me.
Candy Otte & the Glider Kids Sassy, Corky, Mehitabel & Missy Wacco, Yacco, & Dot Mindy, Kanobles, Elmo, & Chipper http://www.gliderkids-diet.comCandyOtte@aol.com
|
|
|
Re: What happened?
[Re: GliderNursery]
#1377118
09/02/14 08:33 PM
09/02/14 08:33 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 16,800 St. Johns, Florida
Srlb
OP
Glideritis Anonymous
|
OP
Glideritis Anonymous
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 16,800
St. Johns, Florida
|
*2 cents** I asked Peggy(Srlb) lots of diet-related questions because I didn't think to look at older posts where the information was already available so I'm claiming ignorance. And I didnt mind one bit. I really do not mind helping folks out, new or seasoned owners. No matter how 'seasoned' an owner can be, there are ALWAYS new things to learn and sometimes those new things, or new ideas are brought to us from the 'newbies'. I was just speaking with someone tonight and we were talking about how they were going to remove their question on the facebook group they posted in because she didnt want drama started up. It was about offering something new to feed to her gliders. She sent me a private message, although I was 80% sure of the answer, I wasnt 100% sure so I sent an email to one of the nutritionists I work with and asked. I received the answer and tonight we BOTH (new and seasoned alike) learned something new and not by using 'google degrees' but by actually contacting people who are schooled in these areas. We, as a whole, need to be able to work together. Whether you have the 'been there, done that, got the t-shirt' or not. Just because one may have the shirt to wear doesnt mean the one asking questions has a shirt. I am like Shelly though, if I see a question has already been helped, and the information is correct, I will not respond. If I feel I can add to it, or to correct it, I will step in and do so. IF it is a correction, or something *I* personally do not do, I will explain why so others can understand. Sometimes I will also ask you to explain to me why you feel the way you do. Who knows, through explanations one of us or both of us may learn something new and change the way we do things or the way we think about something.
|
|
|
Re: What happened?
[Re: Typhoonkitty]
#1377124
09/02/14 09:36 PM
09/02/14 09:36 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 149 Massachusetts
Hamlet
Joey Member
|
Joey Member
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 149
Massachusetts
|
If I was a little more tech savvy in the programming area, I'd do it, but all I can do is program a simple calculator protocol before I start throwing things across the room, haha. Trying to program a mobile site for tablets and phones is beyond me. Ask me to fix the older electronics though, and there's a good shot I can get that old NES working.... That's honestly amazing! Technology in the way of programming or repair is so baffling to me I could call it Greek And I agree emergencies are certainly cases where any question is as urgent and as important whether it has been answered or not. I merely wanted to emphasize that newbies should contribute to the relationship between themselves and veterans as well, instead of merely relying on veterans to do all the work all of the time. This is not a criticism, but an epiphany based in my own behavior here on the forums. If such an intercourse is wholly one-sided, you can be sure, like any relationship, it will degrade. Shelley, (great name btw, you share that distinction with one of my favorite poets!) thank you for addressing my suggestion, and I sincerely hope the technology is available in the future. If not perhaps an overall of the program could be considered?
Last edited by Hamlet; 09/02/14 09:42 PM.
Trust is the quintessential bond, it is the foundation from which love thrives.
Discipline must be learned before desire is to be filled.
Patience is the eloquence of nature, and maturity of thought.
|
|
|
Re: What happened?
[Re: Nicole]
#1377137
09/03/14 02:50 AM
09/03/14 02:50 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 7,748 New Jersey
JillMarie
Serious Glideritis
|
Serious Glideritis
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 7,748
New Jersey
|
So please don't take offense.
Didn't you yourself at some point not know everything, and had to ask questions? Even though in this day and age a lot of questions have answers on the net or in books, they are always disputed elsewhere. It's confusing out here for new owners and enthusiasts.
If you yourself don't want to help others because it annoys you to see people barely struggle among the endless menagerie of disputed research and argumentative knowledge because, in your opinion, the answers are there; then that's okay.
GC didn't draft you to be a primary resource to aid others. It's not in the terms and conditions for you to volunteer know-how because of your activity level here or how long you've been posting on the forums. Plus no one is pointing fingers nor trying to say anyone is wrong or right in what they do.
I was just speaking from a new member's perspective, just as you spoke from your veteran's point of view. Glider Central advertises about how it's a community for sugar glider owners and lovers looking to connect and basically network; share ideas, stories, and et cetera. In my opinion, however, I just find it highly judgmental and a tad bit rude for folks to assume people don't look for answers, or research, or try to exhaust resources before asking questions. Not everyone is 100% savvy with the net, or reading, or locating others like them in their area to communicate with.
At the end of the day, the only dumb question is one not asked, and the only dumb answer is one never given.
Non taken To clarify: I was not being judgmental nor assuming that people havent looked for answers. Keep in mind I was speaking of specific TYPES or questions that are easily answered when one looks. And you are right about volunteering time. My time playing with my gliders in very short and very valuable, which is why I spend less time here. I also do not need the drama, as small as it may be here, as my life has plenty already. And you are correct that I didnt know everything in the beginning and I still dont. And I have never refrained from helping someone who has emailed or PMd me directly. But I just dont have the time to answer that many posts asking things where the answer is not an emergency or is easily found. Many others do have the time. In fact. I am signing out now as my Arwen is calling for me, and life is tiring, as is this thread, I just dont have the energy for this.
|
|
|
Re: What happened?
[Re: Hamlet]
#1377138
09/03/14 03:38 AM
09/03/14 03:38 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 7,748 New Jersey
JillMarie
Serious Glideritis
|
Serious Glideritis
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 7,748
New Jersey
|
I merely wanted to emphasize that newbies should contribute to the relationship between themselves and veterans as well, instead of merely relying on veterans to do all the work all of the time. This is not a criticism, but an epiphany based in my own behavior here on the forums. If such an intercourse is wholly one-sided, you can be sure, like any relationship, it will degrade.
^this and Shelley is a great name, but for me, because of a beloved cat named Shelley PS Arwen allowed me to sign in for this response, she likes Hamlet too
|
|
|
Re: What happened?
[Re: Srlb]
#1377144
09/03/14 09:27 AM
09/03/14 09:27 AM
|
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 18 Virginia
Nicole
New Member
|
New Member
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 18
Virginia
|
I just find it one sided to begrudge either side of a defense. Just as it is not fully the oldies fault for forum nonsense, it is unfair to assume only newbies have issues adjusting. Oh and yes Hamlet has a point, but that point goes both ways and I hope everyone realizes this as well. It's just as bad to have a handful of new members excited to forge bonds but no veterans around to reciprocate because of a menagerie of excuses. Everyone has lives in this world, some difficult and some fairly versatile; yet even so, there's always someone with some time to share here. Upon that, I exit the conversation.
Glider Parent in training!
The only silly questions out there are the ones never asked.
I can't fix stupid, but I can xray it!
|
|
|
Re: What happened?
[Re: JillMarie]
#1377153
09/03/14 11:57 AM
09/03/14 11:57 AM
|
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 149 Massachusetts
Hamlet
Joey Member
|
Joey Member
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 149
Massachusetts
|
Yay Arwen likes me!!! I'm sort of in love with her.
I merely wanted to emphasize that newbies should contribute to the relationship between themselves and veterans as well, instead of merely relying on veterans to do all the work all of the time. This is not a criticism, but an epiphany based in my own behavior here on the forums. If such an intercourse is wholly one-sided, you can be sure, like any relationship, it will degrade.
^this and Shelley is a great name, but for me, because of a beloved cat named Shelley PS Arwen allowed me to sign in for this response, she likes Hamlet too
Trust is the quintessential bond, it is the foundation from which love thrives.
Discipline must be learned before desire is to be filled.
Patience is the eloquence of nature, and maturity of thought.
|
|
|
Re: What happened?
[Re: Srlb]
#1377161
09/03/14 01:32 PM
09/03/14 01:32 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 20,093 North Central Ohio
GliderNursery
Tech Admn
|
Tech Admn
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 20,093
North Central Ohio
|
Our goal here at GliderCENTRAL is to make everyone feel warm and welcome. Our hopes is that everyone feels comfortable coming here and asking questions, offering advice or opinions, and just in general, helping one another. We all have a common goal here, and that is to make the best lives for our sugar gliders. "For the Good of the Glider" Realize that not everyone is going to see your personal point of view, there will be differences of opinions, and sometimes those will come out rather passionately. Don't take it to heart, take all of the information as its being offered, as help from others that are simply offering their opinions and experiences. We strive to maintain as drama free, fun, and educational environment that we can. We can't force people to come here and post, newbies and veterans alike, we can only open the door and invite them in. All we ask is that everyone is respectful of each other (following the rules). So, the door is wide open and we do invite those that truly want to help each other out, to come here to learn and forge friendships. I have to say that the best friend I've ever had in my life, I "met" here on GliderCENTRAL. Although we live a state apart, we do visit and get together whenever we can. This site has brought so much into peoples lives, we just want to continue to bring as much positive as we can. I truly appreciate each one of our members for what they contribute there, whether it be only asking a question or two, or those that provide the help and experience to those that are in need. You see, we are a big, happy family. It may not be as big or active as it was in years past, but we are still here for each other.
|
|
|
Re: What happened?
[Re: GliderNursery]
#1377191
09/03/14 03:34 PM
09/03/14 03:34 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 149 Massachusetts
Hamlet
Joey Member
|
Joey Member
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 149
Massachusetts
|
I wholeheartedly agree, and can aver that this has been my experience here. I am truly thankful to all those who were kind enough to wish me well, and take the time to offer their knowledge, experience, and advice. Here's to the renaissance of the GC to come! It's places like these that need preserving, they are the villages that raise us Our goal here at GliderCENTRAL is to make everyone feel warm and welcome. Our hopes is that everyone feels comfortable coming here and asking questions, offering advice or opinions, and just in general, helping one another. We all have a common goal here, and that is to make the best lives for our sugar gliders. "For the Good of the Glider" Realize that not everyone is going to see your personal point of view, there will be differences of opinions, and sometimes those will come out rather passionately. Don't take it to heart, take all of the information as its being offered, as help from others that are simply offering their opinions and experiences. We strive to maintain as drama free, fun, and educational environment that we can. We can't force people to come here and post, newbies and veterans alike, we can only open the door and invite them in. All we ask is that everyone is respectful of each other (following the rules). So, the door is wide open and we do invite those that truly want to help each other out, to come here to learn and forge friendships. I have to say that the best friend I've ever had in my life, I "met" here on GliderCENTRAL. Although we live a state apart, we do visit and get together whenever we can. This site has brought so much into peoples lives, we just want to continue to bring as much positive as we can. I truly appreciate each one of our members for what they contribute there, whether it be only asking a question or two, or those that provide the help and experience to those that are in need. You see, we are a big, happy family. It may not be as big or active as it was in years past, but we are still here for each other.
Last edited by Hamlet; 09/03/14 03:34 PM.
Trust is the quintessential bond, it is the foundation from which love thrives.
Discipline must be learned before desire is to be filled.
Patience is the eloquence of nature, and maturity of thought.
|
|
|
|
Please click above to see how you can help!!
|
|
0 registered members (),
223
guests, and 90
spiders. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
Owner,
Admin
|
|
Forums132
Topics10,375
Posts159,170
posts in the last 24hrs0
Members7,326
|
Most Online2,693 Jan 2nd, 2020
|
|
This site was tested and is best
viewed in Google Chrome & Mozilla FireFox
Download your copy today!!!
|
|
|