I would put fleece over the bars instead of paper, just in case he decides to chew on it. As for the rest, I am not sure, but some one that Has more experience with Special needs gliders will be along shortly

THANK you those are wonderful tips

I sent you a PM on a medicine our vet gave us for a injured Glider back during Christmas of last yr. It's called Scarlett Oil. This Glider went from an open wound to the bone showing to a place on it's leg within a week that had no hair and could hardly tell there was a wound there.
here is the link to the story of Cassie
http://www.sugarglider.net/ubbthreads/ub...true#Post196582

Some has called this a miracle cure for the Gliders we just are thankful we had a god vet and helped save her life.

You may wish to ask your vet for this scarlett Oil and apply it to the wounded area.

James

Sending prayers for coconut. He is very lucky to have ended up with someone as special as you, even if it was by accident...

I am glad to hear that the mix-up was accidental, though it is still a bit disturbing. That is a pretty major mitake. I am glad she refunded your money, but really, she should also pay whatever vet bills there are related to this, at least the initial ones.

Best of luck with your special little guy.

When I had to give my suggie liquid meds, I put it in a grape-their favorite fruit. I halved a grape (red, seedless), squeezed as much of the juice out of it as possible, and injected it with the antibiotic. The vet said the meds had a sweet flavor to it anyway. She always ate it no problems! Also, I left the skin so that it would help hold the liquid. They don't eat it, just the flesh. Or, you could mix it in with a little yogurt. My girls love yogurt too. Just take the meds/yogurt mix, put a little on your finger and have her lick it off a little at a time. The best part is: this is also a good bonding trick! Make sure Azazel gets some too so he gets some love too (non-medicated yogurt). Ta-da, both problems solved! Good luck to you! It sounds like they found some good slaves for themselves!

Thank you for updating us. I am glad Coconut has you. I will be thinking of both of you!

its good to hear that coconut is in good hands, but i think the breeder doesn't have all that much of an excuse. I don;t mean to be ruthless or not compassionate, but what she did to that glider by shipping him in the condition that he was is was wrong. If she had surgury on one eye and couldnt see enough to tell if your glider had all his limbs, or see if she got him out of the right cage, there is something wrong. I mean, if she was really that blind form the surgery, how did she get the shipping info right? It just seems like a cop out.. i'm sorry if this is mean to anyone, but i still dont think that shipping that glider is excusable.

happy thoughts going to you.

bless you for all your work and time spent to see that this glider has a chance at a happy life.
i am glad you found each other, sometimes things change for a good reason.

I have not talked to the breeder so I cannot speculate the validity of the excuse firsthand; however, perhaps she should have someone helping her do her suggie work - I mean if an armless suggie can accidently be shipped, how are these guys accurately getting cared for? I agree she should pay for the vet bills, and considering the details you've given, i'm suprised vet attention wasn't given to this guy before hand? Hmmm... keep us posted on this story!

The bottom line, though, is he is truly lucky to have found you! Aside from the will to do so much for a little unfamiliar life, which most wouldn't, a lot of people wouldn't have been able to do what you did. Time wise, financially, emotionally. You are a great person and I have a feeling you two will ultimately be buds . He is in a new place with new movements, sights, smells, food, etc. and to boot he's not healthy so mentally and instinctively he's probably just losing it a little. Be patient, he will come around


Next on your to do list (after sleep catch up):
PICS PICS PICS! ::

Good Luck! Coconut & Azazel are in my prayers! I'm glad they have you!

I've been following your post here about Coconut and I just wanted to tell you how badly I feel for all of you. This is a very unfortunate situation for everyone involved. Being your first time suggie owner I have to say that I am totally impressed with the way your handeling everything. The care and the love that your giving to this poor little baby is incrediable! Your willingness to step back from expressing anger and passing quick judgment towards the breeder is highly admorable. Taking one step at a time and gathering all the facts and evaluating everyones suggestions couldn't be done any better.
I pray that this poor little baby will recover and live a happy life with you. It's not easy, but I can see that your going to get thru this and prevail.
God Bless you and your little ones.

Linda, I couldn't have said that any better - so I'll just say "ditto"! (How original is that?). I'd also have to agree that if it was indeed an accident that he got shipped to you, it's the best accident of his life! Thank you for seeing this little guys heart and potential and not just his missing arm.

and prayers being sent your way.

Oh, and by the way, Welcome to Glider Central cozazelnut!!

I believe in 'everything happens for a reason'. Sometimes, we as humans don't always understand the reasons at first. In this case, they are well understood. It seems you were meant to have this suggie and that's all that matters at this point.

Since the money paid for Coconut was refunded immediately, I wouldn't doubt the lady, personally, I would drop it and go on . Coconut has an awesome mommy that loves him and is taking care of him now. I think we all should not keep inquiring as to who his breeder is. She has enough on her mind without making those kinds of decisions under diress from us. JMO

God Bless

You guys are the sweetest people ever. I really, really, REALLY appreciate all of the support you all have given me and my little guys. They are reaping the benefits of all of your advice, and I honestly hold all of you responsible for any composure I had in this situation. You guys are great.

Finally I have pics! : ) !!...i just can't figure out how to upload them?

Ayy..

Select file manager below the box where you enter text to write a message. Then browse and find the picture on your computer. attach the picture and when you are finished, submit your message. It should be there.

HTH!

You can only get to the File Manager by hitting the Reply button, not just by using the Quick Reply feature. Just thought I'd throw that in there!

These are of Coconut before the operation..

These are post-op...

And here's Azazel!

Firt off-he's a handsome little guy!

I had a glider in an E-collar (the cone) for 3 months-it's there to keep him from trying to chew at the surgery site, as a glider in pain will do. Here are some tips for caring for him while he's in it:

First: keep an eye on that collar. If it wasn't designed with molefoam & moleskin around the neck specifically for a glider, it could cut his neck. Watch that.

Second: Although I know scarlet oil worked well on the above glider, it does contain several compounds that could cause damage or be toxic to a glider, and wouldn't recommend it unless directly supervised, and washed off before the glider was left alone at all (which could be difficult, because it is oil based), along with not knowing how much absorption could cause problems farther out with a glider as far as organs or neurological issues. My preference on one of mine would be diluted Betadine on the wound (which rinses off easily)-it is both an oxidizer, and promotes healing (almost no bacteria that won't kill), and absorption risk is minimal if any.

Third: Bathing. When in an ecollar for more than a couple days-this is a MUST. And it can be done (they cannot groom themselves in them). I never used shampoo or soap on my Riker (my cloacal Self Mutilator),but warm water only. You want the water temp as follows: If you put your wrist IN or UNDER the water, it should feel like it's almost not there at all. That is the proper temp. I'd submerse Riker (after sanitizing the sink with cleanser and bleach and rinsing THOROUGHLY) up to his neck-holding in a washcloth and gently rubbing to both control him, and rub stuck in food out. A bathroom sink worked best for us, because if he did get loose, he could stand in the water without his head going under, since it was shallow, but deep enough to immerse. After this, gently rub any excess food out with a washcloth, then transfer glider to a dry handtowel, and rub down with plain Kleenex (it helps dry a lot faster than terrycloth). Keep the glider on you and warm until completely dry.

Fourth: Feeding: Sometimes they can't eat in the collar, and can't hold food to their mouth. We used the bird feeder/waterers (plastic) from the pet section at Walmart, or the grocery store, using babyfoods, slightly watered BML, or Ensure, and drinks in them. They will fit inside the collar so the glider can feed himself and they only have to lick the food up.

Sleeping: you may have noticed a normal pouch is out of the question. Hammocks or tunnels that can accomodate a collar, plus hammocks to avoid a fall (that can kill or seriously injure a glider in a collar) are your best bet. Also remove any hard toys, etc, that could cause injury if fallen on.

Watch for depression (a collar is most definitely not a glider's favorite thing).

Good pain med is torb, or torb with valium if the glider is unusually stressed (valium is anti anxiety). Also keep in mind that pain meds tend to constipate, so watch the poops, and push fluids.

Keep us updated on the little guy!

Your babies are both adorable! But that poor little Coconut in his huge collar. I know it's necessary, they just always look so pitiful in those things. Hopefully the healing process will go quickly and smoothly so that he'll soon be out of the collar and into mischief! Thanks for posting pics for us.

Awww - look at those sweet little babies! They sure are lucky to have found such a caring momma! Methinks this was no accident at all!

Thanks for the pics. Coco is adorable in his e-collar. Be sure to give him love for me. I likethe one of Azazel in the wheel. I am so happy that things ae going better for all of you.

First off, your babies are adorable. Secondly, I do think that the breeder is telling a story, but at least she refunded your money. She should have taken care of this guy when he was younger - his wound must of kept opening up while she had him too. I'm very distressed over this. Hopefully Coconut will pull through - he is definately lucky to find you!

Being shipped to you is probably the best thing that could have happened to this little guy! The breeder may be telling a story, or just unusually stressed out and it was a true accident (we've all done abysmally stupid things in our lifes) but Coconut was not getting the care he needs. Chances are the breeder was letting "nature take its course" which would have ended sadly for this little guy. Kudos for you for keeping him and helping him - with the love and support he is getting, he will hopefully make a full recovery. (Three-legged pets can be wonderful - my dog, Bob, lost his leg at a young age and lived until he was fourteen. Watching him trying to lift his leg on the wrong side was always wonderful entertainment!)

they are both beautiful. thank you for the updates and pics.

They are gorgeous! Good luck with everything!

they're both adorable!!

awww... what cuties! Sending little coconut lots of healing vibes... ((hugs))