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Re: Metabollic bone disease [Re: carolinasuggies] #989862
08/11/10 10:05 PM
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Well I am sure any of that was possible. I didn't even know about glider boards then. I woke up that morning and he was acting funny like he could not climb and I got him out and within 20min he died. It was fast and horrible. It would have been great to have that information back then being a newbie owner.


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Re: Metabollic bone disease [Re: Srlb] #989863
08/11/10 10:13 PM
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Thank you I am just trying to find out every possibility so I can suggest tests to my vet that may help locate her problem! I mailed Dr. T the disk I got from the vet with the x rays on it so hopefully it will arrive to him by friday or saturday and I will have his opinion very soon! I want my baby happy and healthy!


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Re: Metabollic bone disease [Re: carolinasuggies] #989873
08/11/10 10:38 PM
08/11/10 10:38 PM
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tootles, it is not hard to say hindsight is always better than foresight, but back then, there were so many doors that had not been opened yet..
bacterial (especially the anti-biotic resistant ones. parasitic, as well as aflatoxin and some forms of pneumonia, as chris R has posted the psuedo parasites as well

when the bacterial thing happened in TX, sadly many gliders lost their lives till we found out what the real issue was, but there was also a group of people that wanted to blame it on the diet, so while they were doing their smear campaign, we as a researching group fought to find the primary cause.

those times seem to have gotten clouded with people wanted to blame this and that and not move the new found findings forward..

i moved some gliders, they were on bml, the new owner fed hpw, so when she took them into the vet to get checked, they found the dreaded round worm,

so when I found out I called someone else to validate that the readings could have been misread,that it may have been bee pollen and sadly their ulterior agenda got in the way, the woman was not told to question her vet, instead was told to listen to her vet,

there are many things that happened there that should have screamed, it had to be something else,

1. ALL of her gliders tested positive for it, her original group as well as the gliders I moved, they could not have contracted round worm from each other so quickly,

2. I should have been involved with anything that had to do with those gliders.

but what happened was a chance to help educate a vet with a common misdiagnosis, was passed up, and that vet still is left with the old information. Only to make the same mistake again.

If we all worked as hard to find definitive answers as we do when we THINK an injustice is being done, we could still open many many doors that are left to be opened.

we need to really really read the posts, many times the person posting has no clue just as alicia stated, they don't know what to tell their vet to look for, or look harder at, and it is frustrating , just as Kara found out last night.. everyone screamed take the glider to the vet, well she did, it cost her money she didn't have, only to find all tests done were negative. does that mean her glider is fine? No , it means that the tests that were run, couldn't find anything. she will have to continue with the vet visits just as alicia here will have to do, till the primary reason is found.

tootles.. remember that HLP doesn't happen suddenly, it progresses over a period of months SLOWLY, if it does, there is something else going on.

the key thing is now we do know more, does it mean we know it all? NO WAY.. but each step is a step forward..

Re: Metabollic bone disease [Re: Srlb] #989889
08/11/10 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted By: Srlb
I just wonder, and it will be something I ask Dr.T tomorrow, if it is possible if a glider doesnt get enough vitD if that could be an issue as well...I know nocturnal animals dont *need* it as much as diurnal animals but...sorry, just thinking outloud....
Peggy, I am very interested in this. My vet says that gliders need at least 4 hours of full spectrum lighting each day. I don't really understand why, or how that would be possible with them being nocturnal. I'd have to take their pouches out during the day and mount a light fixture over all 7 cages.

I've asked her for resources so I can read about it, and she said it was discussed at a conference she attended. It seems that it is not widely accepted or recommended as required for gliders.

Anyway, I would love to hear Dr. Tristan's thoughts on this.


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Re: Metabollic bone disease [Re: Srlb] #990183
08/12/10 02:48 PM
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How's Gypsy doing today Alicia?


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Re: Metabollic bone disease [Re: carolinasuggies] #1035336
11/26/10 10:34 PM
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Well time for an update it's been a while...My precious Gypsy has made an amazing reovery with help from lots of calcium good food and her cagemate Aidan! The vet say's her legs will always look a little funny but it wont hold her back! Her fractures are fully healed some VERY messily! She is a wonderful little girl and we couldnt be happier to have her in our family!


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Re: Metabollic bone disease [Re: carolinasuggies] #1035395
11/27/10 02:45 AM
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Wonderful news! clap Yay for Gypsy!!!


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Re: Metabollic bone disease [Re: carolinasuggies] #1035468
11/27/10 02:57 PM
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Thank's GizmoGirl! smile


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Re: Metabollic bone disease [Re: carolinasuggies] #1035534
11/27/10 05:36 PM
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clap That is wonderful news!



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