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Is James a Black Beauty?! #1038837
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I stink at distinguishing Black Beauties from Classic Greys! confused Please take a peek at my little guy and give me your opinions on whether or not he would be considered a BB. thanks -Alicia




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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut] #1038842
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I totally stink too, but dont black beauties have a dark chest or belly? I honestly dont know. I was having trouble telling if 6 week old joeys were WF or standard. CRAZY


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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: Mastiff_Mama] #1038849
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I honestly don't know! cry He's just SO much darker than any of our other Greys, and his markings are darkening even further with age. I wonder if that's typical of a BB? dunno -Alicia



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:rbridge: Severus Snape, Dolores Umbridge, Horace Slughorn, & Molly Weasley ... Glide free, my little angels! We will love and miss you FOREVER!




Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut] #1038856
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Yes, from those photos, I'd say without a doubt that he is.

He has such bold and thick markings on his face, arms and hands. Very stunning boy you have there!


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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut] #1038864
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I know!! Isn't he just gorgeous?! agree And, to top it all off, he's the sweetest little booger EVER!! Lucky me!! grin

Thanks for your opinion, Teresa! -Alicia



:grey: Andromeda, Malfoy, & Peeves; Arthur & Lily :wfb:


:rbridge: Severus Snape, Dolores Umbridge, Horace Slughorn, & Molly Weasley ... Glide free, my little angels! We will love and miss you FOREVER!




Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut] #1038889
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No. He is not a black beauty. His markings are not dark or distinct enough.

Sorry! He's a beautiful classic grey though!

People in general are not good at distinguishing. When you have a TRUE BB. There is not doubt in your mind.

Last edited by Glide_Bye_Lily; 12/10/10 03:02 PM.

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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut] #1038890
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He looks like a BB to me. He has some of the same markings my BB girl has... smile


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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: Meg_n_Von] #1038900
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Yikes! We have some disagreement about his classification. Hmmm...what to do! Does anyone else have an opinion?! -Alicia



:grey: Andromeda, Malfoy, & Peeves; Arthur & Lily :wfb:


:rbridge: Severus Snape, Dolores Umbridge, Horace Slughorn, & Molly Weasley ... Glide free, my little angels! We will love and miss you FOREVER!




Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut] #1038906
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Please PM me if you'd like to see pictures of True Black Beauties vs darker classic grey gliders.


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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut] #1038908
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Since I have always wondered about my 2 females, I will take pictures of them tonight and we can compare... maybe we will both learn something new about BB smile


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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: Glide_Bye_Lily] #1038912
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"Please PM me if you'd like to see pictures of True Black Beauties vs darker classic grey gliders."

Yes, please!! ...pm-ing you now!! -Alicia



:grey: Andromeda, Malfoy, & Peeves; Arthur & Lily :wfb:


:rbridge: Severus Snape, Dolores Umbridge, Horace Slughorn, & Molly Weasley ... Glide free, my little angels! We will love and miss you FOREVER!




Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: Mastiff_Mama] #1038913
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Originally Posted By: Mastiff_Mama
Since I have always wondered about my 2 females, I will take pictures of them tonight and we can compare... maybe we will both learn something new about BB smile


That would be GREAT!! thanks -Alicia



:grey: Andromeda, Malfoy, & Peeves; Arthur & Lily :wfb:


:rbridge: Severus Snape, Dolores Umbridge, Horace Slughorn, & Molly Weasley ... Glide free, my little angels! We will love and miss you FOREVER!




Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut] #1038915
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His markings are very dark, but dont most BBs have very thick very dark markings around the eyes and down the forehead and almost like a strap from the ear to the eye? It looks like he could be but his markings arnt as thick as most ive seen. Maybe he has a small percentage of BB in him. All that matters is hes a handsome fella!!!


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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut] #1038916
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I'm of the opinion that they are all shades of gray. There aren't two classes: BB or Gray. Instead, there are many shades, some darker, some lighter, and every shade in between. That being said, drawing the "line" can be difficult. Here are a few of my darker guys for reference:



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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut] #1038918
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That 3rd pic is the cutest!


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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut] #1038921
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On a side note, I also do not think that BB is a specific color like WF is. I think it is like light vs dark brown hair. That being said, I do think that two darker gliders will produce darker joeys and that two lighter ones will produce lighter joeys, but they are all still a type of gray wink


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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut] #1038924
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Yeah, she passed out smile


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Dogs : Pretzel/Snickers
Horse: Nugget
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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut] #1038929
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I have also had trouble with the distinguishing... and to make matters worse, I have a pair that facially LOOKS like BB... but the rest of the body is standard, so they aren't considered BB... and their joeys are the same as them:
Adam

Eve

Duke (their last joey)


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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: wildlifeangel] #1038940
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Wow thats crazy! They def look like BBs. There adorable! All of them! I want to get my boyfriend a BB some day as a gift. we have a standard grey now, and a wfb on the way. But he really wants a boy. Maybe ill get him a BB boy some day! There gorgeous! grin


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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: wildlifeangel] #1038943
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Nadine- What is your opinion on James ... yay or nay? -Alicia



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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: oakley] #1038946
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Originally Posted By: oakley
On a side note, I also do not think that BB is a specific color like WF is. I think it is like light vs dark brown hair. That being said, I do think that two darker gliders will produce darker joeys and that two lighter ones will produce lighter joeys, but they are all still a type of gray wink


Meghan- I actually agree with you 100%! However, the lineage database does distinguish between Classic Grey and Black Beauty, so I'm trying to be as accurate as possible when listing classifications. -Alicia



:grey: Andromeda, Malfoy, & Peeves; Arthur & Lily :wfb:


:rbridge: Severus Snape, Dolores Umbridge, Horace Slughorn, & Molly Weasley ... Glide free, my little angels! We will love and miss you FOREVER!




Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut] #1038948
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hun... I'm not sure. I want to say that he isn't... like mine... but I always have trouble too!


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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut] #1038952
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You can see loads of BB and Standard pics here - Color Variations - for comparison. smile


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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: Meg_n_Von] #1038967
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I think I'm going to take the easy way out and just classify him as a Classic Grey! I've looked at those photos FOREVER and am even more confused now than when I started! Oi!! tant This is maddening!!

And, here I was hoping to be able to add a new little gremlin to my sig!! cry -Alicia



:grey: Andromeda, Malfoy, & Peeves; Arthur & Lily :wfb:


:rbridge: Severus Snape, Dolores Umbridge, Horace Slughorn, & Molly Weasley ... Glide free, my little angels! We will love and miss you FOREVER!




Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut] #1038970
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he really looks like a gorgeous darker classic grey to me. I really think if you have a BB there is no doubt in your mind. If in doubt, i say classic grey. he is gorgeous BTW!~ cloud9



Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut] #1038973
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I wasn't sure what my joeys were until I went to a gathering and was told that mine are BB's. I have been told that BB's have a Grey underbelly, and that the stripe from the back goes to the nose and around the nose. With that being said and looking at the pictures, I don't think that he is a BB. Looks more like a darker colored standard Grey to me.



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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut] #1039061
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Honestly I would say black beauty.


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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut] #1039075
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I would say he is a beautiful grey glider. I am under the impression that the characteristics for a BB are black knuckles, dark chin strap and a silver belly fur as opposed to creamy belly fur. I do have a BB but don't have her pix on this computer to show you right now.


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I can't see his belly. BB has very thick mascara, thick stripes, pretty much every black marking emphasized. The black knuckles (greys have a hint, BB it's like a sharpie marker was drug across their hand) and the silvery belly is a dead giveaway. If you have a BB next to a grey, the distinction is obvious. Pictures don't always help since lighting and background vary so widely it can be very difficult to judge.

Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: Glide_Bye_Lily] #1039118
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Originally Posted By: Glide_Bye_Lily
Please PM me if you'd like to see pictures of True Black Beauties vs darker classic grey gliders.
could you out some up here ?

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