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Re: Winter preparedness [Re: TheGliderPlayroom] #1041892
12/16/10 07:18 AM
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We used a little heater like that in our tent while camping. They are made to be used in close quarters. Though will say this, I'm not sure the safety ratings for gliders with those. When I was close to the heater myself (which I tried to stay close since it was 40 degrees outside while we were camping...) It gave me a headache and the propane smell was aweful. I actually had to open the tent a smidge to air it out. It was a small 4 man tent (though how 4 men could fit I'll never know!) And we also went through 2 little green propane cans a night. Something else to consider. Make sure you know how many cans you are going to need.

My electricity goes out a lot here compared to other places I've been in. So I've had to consider and face this issue before. Luckily it was daytime so they were sleeping, I took their pouches and kept them under my coat. However, their travel cages are all easily assessable and the main house has a fire place, so if it were at night, then we would all head over there.

I so love the ideas of what everyone has to say though. The little heat packs and those "hot hands" in secure pouches are great ideas!


Trina

Re: Winter preparedness [Re: suggiemom1980] #1041895
12/16/10 08:00 AM
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I did a hand/body warmer count and I have 100 of them to use in case of emergency. I use them for reptiles when we go to shows so they are replenished yearly. I also posted questions about a keresene heater. I have made up extra bonding pouches and cage pouches. I am also trying to find a way to fit a small generater into the budget somehow. Last winter our area only lost power once ( thank the Lord) and we moved all the reptiles into my bedroom and ran a keresen heater in our large family room and it kept our room at 78 degrees for the 3 days that it was out. It bothered my asthma alot but all 4 legged kids seemed fine. If we would have to take them someplace else, I do have a friends house that everyone can be taken to. We do have reptile tubs set up ....transporting 31 reptile tubs is NOT fun, lol. I also set up a travel cage ( pop up dog kennel) that the boys can be put in quickly and taken. I also have a "emergency travel" pack for them all with food ( ingredients to make BML....except egg )and bottled water and such .


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Re: Winter preparedness [Re: suggiemom1980] #1041898
12/16/10 08:44 AM
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I forgot to mention I have those hand warmers with the metal disk inside that warms up when "cracked". They stay very warm for several hours and can be re-used by boiling them. They can be placed in a pouch and then another pouch placed inside of that for warmth and no direct contact. Haven't had to use them yet, but they are here in case!


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Re: Winter preparedness [Re: suggiemom1980] #1041953
12/16/10 11:02 AM
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We have the outdoor wood burner that heats both my house and one of our barns. The house has propane backup in case the fire goes out. Of course, the furnace takes electricity to kick on. The barns are on a separate electic meter than the house, so although highly unlikely, if power went out in the house, it could potentially be on in the barn. But, for the final backup, the year there was a blackout on the east coast, my father-in-law bought all 6 of his kids generators for christmas. It is large enough to handle the furnace and the fridge, and then some.

We do have several family members that would allow me to bring my gliders to their house, and if all else fails, we do have commercial property that we could take them too. (Last resort there because it would def be a violation!)


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Re: Winter preparedness [Re: suggiemom1980] #1041965
12/16/10 11:35 AM
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I want to know more about the hand warmers. How do you use them? Some of my gliders are chewers so I wouldn't be able to use them where the gliders would be able to come in contact with them. I do have cage covers and all of my pouches are double fleece. I always have plenty of fleece blankets. I keep bottled water and extra glider foods on hand. I am also a quilter so I have plenty of quilts to add more coverings to the cages if needed.
I am still concerned about the room temp tho. I know my babies won't be able to stay in pouches on me when it's play time, so they will need a warm room to play in.
I hate the idea of having to move them to a friend's house, but that may be the only option. I'm nervous about using propane in my glider room. Is there something like a carbon monoxide detector that can detect propane fumes? Our home is all electric powered. Is a generator really the only safe way to keep heat going when the electricity is out?

Re: Winter preparedness [Re: suggiemom1980] #1042000
12/16/10 01:36 PM
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The best way to use a handwarmer is to have a small pouch to put it into that will close. Then you can put that pouch inside your bonding or cage pouch with the glider. That way the glider never comes into direct contact with the hand warmer.

The Glider Initiative will have a special warming pouch on the website around the first of the year. They will come with the handwarmer. These are the new warming pouches that will be included in all new emergency kits (after the first of the year), but will be available separately for those who already have e-kits.


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Re: Winter preparedness [Re: suggiemom1980] #1042017
12/16/10 02:10 PM
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Hey Connie I think this topic would be great for next year's Christmas gathering! And boy would the message be timely. Can we work on a talk with the info?

Re: Winter preparedness [Re: suggiemom1980] #1042023
12/16/10 02:23 PM
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Elena, Dr. Gimre did cover a few of these items briefly during his morning talk, so maybe he has some notes that would help smile

Re: Winter preparedness [Re: suggiemom1980] #1042026
12/16/10 02:32 PM
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I made some pouches that have velcro to close them. They were for geckos but they would also fit down in a glider pouches.


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Re: Winter preparedness [Re: suggiemom1980] #1042029
12/16/10 02:41 PM
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Is there a "rule of thumb" for how many hand warmers should be used per cage/glider? How long do they stay warm? I want to know how many I should have before I need to use them. when the electicity goes out, people in our area flock to the stores to buy supplies. I want to be ready *before* the electricity goes out.

edited to add:
Would the hand warmers warm the air in the cage, or just the pouch? Would it help if the gliders were in a smaller cage? Maybe I should have a couple of smaller cages on hand for this. Some of my cages are really big.

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Re: Winter preparedness [Re: suggiemom1980] #1042131
12/16/10 05:55 PM
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I want to repeat,
PLEASE DO NOT USE A PROPANE HEATER IN THE HOUSE
It can be very dangerous!
Propane heaters are only for areas that are not closed up, such as construction sites, and are not meant to be used in LIVING areas.
using a small one in a tent is different as tents are not airtight.

PLEASE PLEASE dont use one in your house UNLESS IT SPECIFIES SAFE FOR INDOORS. you also need to make sure there is plenty of ventilation, so crack open a window

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Re: Winter preparedness [Re: suggiemom1980] #1042194
12/16/10 07:39 PM
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I have no intentions of using a propane heater that is not made for indoor use.
The one my husband is looking at IS made for indoor use.

Re: Winter preparedness [Re: suggiemom1980] #1042216
12/16/10 07:59 PM
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My gliders have their own generator, so they will always have heat. They cost, but are worth every penny and can be lifesavers.


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Re: Winter preparedness [Re: suggiemom1980] #1042578
12/17/10 01:26 PM
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I'm currently on the hunt for a back up generator. Boy they aren't cheap at all. I know there are others here at GC that are way better at finding things online so... Any ideas on where I can get one reasonablely priced? Free shipping if at all possible.

Thanks for the thread Connie it got me thinking that I might not be as prepared as I should be.

Re: Winter preparedness [Re: suggiemom1980] #1049932
01/03/11 02:13 AM
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would an eletric blanket over a cage work for keeping warm if there is eletric?

Re: Winter preparedness [Re: suggiemom1980] #1049941
01/03/11 02:39 AM
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Not sure COWGAL but if the power goes out so would the blanket! frown


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Re: Winter preparedness [Re: suggiemom1980] #1049945
01/03/11 02:50 AM
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ya then it would be no use...

we don't have the ability to turn the heat on right now and I just wanna keep them warm. They have hot water bottles and hand warmers, plus tons of blankies and cages covered, and it's only in the 30s at night. I'm just looking for ways that may work better with the use of electricity.

Re: Winter preparedness [Re: COWGAL] #1049959
01/03/11 03:55 AM
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a down blanket thrown in the cage would help too down is extremely warm. or go to an thrift shop and get some down booties they sell them at restoration hardware christmas time. or look online for down booties they are out there can be used as a pouch.

Re: Winter preparedness [Re: suggiemom1980] #1052213
01/08/11 02:33 PM
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I have a question/concern i would like to get some input on regarding what to do if the power goes off where I am for the weekend. I am at my grandmas for the weekend and they are calling for snow starting tomorrow night. Well she has a fire place and a gas heater that requires no electricity to run. Is it safe to put them in the room with the fire place to keep them warm? Also if anyone can give me any suggestions along with what I am asking I would greatly appreciate it alot. I want to keep them safe and warm in case the power does go off here.


Thank you all in advance.

Re: Winter preparedness [Re: suggiemom1980] #1052221
01/08/11 03:19 PM
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Yes, they can be in the same room as the fireplace. The fireplace is properly ventilated with the flu and such. I would be careful not to place the cage too close to the heat source, and you don't want it to heat the metal.

The gas heater should run ok even if the power lines are down. If it does malfunction though, just move into the fireplace room. Wrap the cages with some fleece blankies and leave the front open, toward the heat source. Eliminate as many drafts in the house as you can, and give the pouches some extra blankies. I sure hope you don't get snowed in like that though!

Re: Winter preparedness [Re: suggiemom1980] #1052224
01/08/11 03:52 PM
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I sure hope i don't get snowed in like that. It would be bad and it would also frustrate me in the process. But I will not let it affect my gliders in any way, shape, form or fashion.

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