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Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2 #1047933
12/29/10 06:10 PM
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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2 [Re: sugarlope] #1048197
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Chuckles Update:
Well this morning Chuckles last shoulder wound has closed up! His tail still looks good but not completely gone yet. This surprises me as I had thought that his shoulder wounds would take longer to heal then the original tail surgery site but I was wrong tho not complaining. His pointer finger has gone back to normal. So at this point I waiting on his tail and thumb as it's still a tiny bit swelled tho mostly normal looking. So another great report! smile

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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2 [Re: sugarlope] #1048212
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That's just fabulous Elena, I'm glad Chuckles is almost there. smile


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So glad the little guy is healing up well. Keep up the good work!


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Chuckles Update:
His fingers are back to normal. He has hair growing in on his neck wounds and tail. His tail isn't completely healed but it's very close. I can't express howw pleased I am!

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Wooo Hooo! Yay for Chuckles! clap It's wonderful Elena!


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Chuckles Update:
I've another update and it's not a great one. Sadly Chuckles is back in an ecollar. I got him out tonight for his night round of Baytril and I checked on his tail to find that he had overgroomed the tip. He thankfully didn't open the skin or make the area raw but he did manage to groom it bald. So back in the ecollar he went. I'm not taking any chances that he'll reopen the site. Thankfuly his shoulder wounds were healed before he got groom happy with his tail, the hair was even growing back. So I at least did have the option of putting the ecollar back on to aviod anything worse happening. Needless to say neither he nor I am happy with the situation at all.

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Oh Elaina, I didn't expect this update. frown Poor baby back in that terrible collar...sigh.

I'm sorry. hug2

I'll be continuing my prayers for Chuckles. hug2


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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2 [Re: sugarlope] #1052510
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One step forward, 2 steps back....cha cha cha cry This is NOT a fun dance for either of you, I know. (Knocking very very hard on wood) I've been doing the same dance with Minka since early August with a mating wound. I finally resorted to taking her to the vet & saying "all right, I've had enough & I need YOU to help me"...as of today, there's a very small, skinny scab (for GOOD this time, please worried ) on her shoulder.

Elena, I seriously and honestly wish that an emergency jacket would work in this situation.....but I know it won't UNLESS I'm misreading and Chuckles has nothing more than a stub for a tail. shakehead I'll just keep sending hopeful and positive thoughts to you both & wait for updates as they come.


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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2 [Re: sugarlope] #1052518
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I expected to read a much different update. frown Thank goodness you are so attentive to that little guy! You've been great through the entire process with him.


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I was so hoping for a better update, as well. So sorry, Elena...I know this is a struggle for you. He's GOT to get better...he's just going to do it on HIS time...little bugger. shakehead

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Chuckles Update:
I can't even tell you all how MAD he is at me! He refuses to eat or drink if it is offered by me. I've had to get Chuck involved because the little stinker will eat and drink for him. I'm glad that he is but man it hurts my heart that he thinks I'm just doing this to be mean or something. He refuses to even look at me and turns away if he even hears my voice. But he'll soon learn that he has to deal with me cause I'm not backing off. This morning I got a real good look at his tip and he did mangae to groom it until the tip of the bone was exposed. Just by having him back in the collar overnight the wound is again starting to close over the bone. Another complication tho cause when I checked his shoulders one side is again looking a little matted. And this is with extra mole foam being added to the edge that touches his neck. So I'll be keeping a very close eye on it and keeping it and his tail covered in Vetericyn. Sadly that's all I can do because I know if I take off the collar again he'll just head back to his tail and make it worse. Denise sadly the ejacket won't work as he still has enough of a tail to do it damange if not in a shot glass style ecollar. He and I are in the collar for the long haul and we will both make it thru this.

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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2 [Re: sugarlope] #1052626
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Elena,

What about the eJacket and a straw on his tail?


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That is something I thought of and even asked a couple of people more experienced with wound situations and tail injuries. I was told that straws will hold in moisture thereby not letting the wound heal properly. Drying out between medicine dips is felt to be more benefitual to healing.

Tho I'm now wondering if an ejacket with splints to keep his tail straight and leaving the very tip exposed to air might work. Just can't figure out how to keep the splint in place.

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If the splint is attached to the jacket somehow....???? I don't know but I sure hope you can find something that works soon! Poor Chuckles and your poor sleep schedule!!!!

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Elasticon is a very sticky adhesive bandage that is like an ace bandage with sticky on one side. You can use it to hold the straw on the tail.

I would not close up the end of it, that would allow air to get in.


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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2 [Re: sugarlope] #1052828
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I'm also on the team of "not fond of straws" for tail issues...ANYWHERE on a tail. OK, so you leave the end open so the tip can heal and so forth.....but what's going to stop trapped moisture from becoming an issue halfway up the tail? Uh uh, just not a fan of something that has been tried and ended up in a MISERABLE failure.

And the idea of attaching a splint TO the e-jacket just can't work....the e-jacket ends at mid-body about where his pom would be anatomically....and the back legs would be restricted no matter what. The "committee" in my head says the splint concept might have a chance of working....let me throw out their thought: popsicle sticks on either side of the tail with moleskin (or molefoam?) to cushion the insides...with a thin layer of Vetwrap covering the whole contraption. Hmmmmmmmm......

Are you following my thoughts, Elena?


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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2 [Re: sugarlope] #1052840
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I sure am in fact that's exactly what I am thinking. With him being in an ejacket to restrict his upper body movement and the splint on his tail so he can't curl it to groom it. So do you think it will work?

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In theory LOTS of things work.....in practical application, well things just don't turn out as well. There's only ONE WAY to find out for sure....and that's to give it a test run around the block. In my head, the splint WILL NOT work until his upper body is restricted. So.....I'll ask you to take a measurement for me. Get a piece of string and put it around his chest under his front arms...then make a knot & slide it off of him. Put your index/middle/ring fingers in that loop & tell me how many comfortably fit in that loop (if you need to include your pinky finger too, that's fine).

You still have my cell phone number (I hope).....if you don't, I'll check back in a little while for your answer.


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Oh....easier way to measure....make a slip knot, put a big loop over the way Denise described, tighten to where it needs to be, then mark that spot on the string with a marker, then you can loosen it back up to get it off. Then slide the knot back where you need to be. That way the knot is already in it, you're not trying to tie it on a wiggly glider.

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Denise I'm calling you now but if I'm too late and you've gone to bed here's what I got. I can get 4 fingers in the loop, everyone but my thumb. But as I'm more of a numbers person I set the string on a ruler and got 3 1/2 inches.

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cry Chuckles Update:
Well Chuckles is still very upset with me but he'll at least take a few licks of the food I offer him. I have Chuck doing most of the feeding because Chuckles will eat more for him. Guess this is just Chuckles way of showing me he's really upset at me because I put the ecollar back on him. Makes me sad that he is behaving this way and I wonder what this is goin to do to the bond he and I shared. But the news doesn't stop there. Chuckles does have a small sore on his shoulder again from the ecollar. Worst part is I can't take off the ecollar yet because the skin on the tip of his tail is receding and the bone is sticking out. Call the vet as soon as they opened this morning and we are headed over to Quincy tomorrow. frown I'm snowed in today or I'd be headed out there today need_hug

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mlove sending hugs your way hope all turns out well for you and chuckles


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Hang on, help is on its way... hug2 there's an envelope coming your direction as fast as the Post Office can get it there (which is DISGUSTINGLY SLOW in my books tant ). Sent you a PM with more details.

I can't do a thing about you being snowed in (it's falling pretty good here, too, right now) but I can tell you that I'm with you in spirit. And Chuckles will forget all the "torture" you're doing on him right now...eventually. But you don't give in ONE IOTA, momma sometimes has to dish out some tough love mlove and this is your day to do it.

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Thanks for your support everyone and hugs I soooo needed them! With your help Chuckles and I will hang in there until this is all over.
I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place and am having to weigh the lesser of 2 evils. I know having the ecollar on him will continue to make the sore bigger. But on the other hand if I take it off he'll go for his tail which now has the skin receding and a bone sticking out. So taking it off just is not an option. I called and talked to my vet today and she told me to keep it on until I can get into see her tomorrow (I'm snowed in or you know I'd be headed out to her now). She did tell me that it's likely that she'll have to take off more of his tail and so we'll need to stitch it again. So we'll still need him to be in an ecollar after that. She said we can treat the sore on his shoulder while he's still in the ecollar and work more on it after we finally get him out of it if need be. She feels the sore is not the biggest issue at the moment his tail is.

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Thank you Denise I did get your pm and replied to it. I know you're right here with me. hug2 BTY how is Minka doing?

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Originally Posted By: hpyhwn2003
cry Chuckles Update:
Well Chuckles is still very upset with me but he'll at least take a few licks of the food I offer him. I have Chuck doing most of the feeding because Chuckles will eat more for him. Guess this is just Chuckles way of showing me he's really upset at me because I put the ecollar back on him. Makes me sad that he is behaving this way and I wonder what this is goin to do to the bond he and I shared.


It may strengthen it, you know. When Foehn tore off a nail a month after we got her, we of course were worried sick. My wife held her for hours so he wouldn't climb or injure herself further. In the end all was OK, but Foehn really seemed to know that she was being cared for and we think that strengthened the developing bond. Chuckles' situation is more traumatic, of course, but I bet he knows that you are taking care of him, even though he may be upset with you at times.

Good luck!


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Still sending prayers Elena. hug2 hug2


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Well Chuckles and I are walking the night together. Uh I take that back someone is again snuggled in his pouch on mama's lap sleeping away. So I guess I walk alone.
Chuckles Update coming so keep reading...
Well as I was talking with a friend on the phone today I saw out the window a mail truck stuck in the snow in my driveway. I've been snowed in all day until Chuck got home from work to shovel out the drive. So I get off the phone to help him. Once we has him moving again he suddenly says "Oh hey the reason I was stuck in your drive is I have a special delivery for you." and hands me an envelope. Now mind you my regular mailman had already come so I was consigned to Chuckles having to be in the ecollar another day dispite the sore on his neck. But low and behold the package Denise had sent was now in my greedy little hands. So after doing the happy jitter bug I raced in the house only to realize that I'd have to wait for Chuck to get home to help get Chuckles out of the ecollar and into the ejacket. Needless to say the minute he walked in I was ready to get to work on making Chuckles more comfortable. Off the ecollar came then dinner was served. I wanted Chuckles to get in a meal that he could hold in his own hands before I upset him again by putting him in another contraption. After he'd eaten and groomed at bit Chuck and I began the first round of getting Chuckles into the ejacket. I am still amazed at how squirmy a glider can get when they don't want something done and boy was he telling me he did not want it on. He managed to get out in less then a minute. Ug! So round two began and this time he kept it on for maybe five minutes. Now a third try but again he won and it was off. At this point I said enough. Chuckles was stressed and I felt it was better to take a break then continue. During that time I talked to Denise on the phone to determine if there was something I was doing wrong or was Chuckles just that smart. As we were talking Chuck walked into my office with the simplest idea ever. Well Denise and I thought why not it just might work. So after an hour we started our final attempt. I had resolved that if I couldn't get it to stay on this time I was gonna quit until tomorrow and put the ecollar back on. Well Chuck's simple twist was the trick that worked. We got it on and it was still on even after repeated attempts by Chuckles to get it off. We came up with another contraption to cover the tip of his tail and got it in place and secured. That was 4 hours ago and everything is still in place. I've still got about 8 1/2 hours to go until Chuckles gets to visit his favorite doc, yes he does seem to actually like her LOL, but I'm beginning to think I just might make it until then. I'll update about his visit when I get back.

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I am so glad you got the e-jacket! clap Denise is just such a wonderful and thoughtful person.

Elena, is it possible to post a picture sometime of Chuckles?

We are crossing all crossables that all will go well until you can get him to the vet and praying for a fast recovery. Both you and Chuckles have been through a lot already. hug2


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Wow, what a story! And hug2 and kudos to that wonderful husband of yours for helping you so much and being such a kindhearted man!

Thinking of you and Chuckles and hoping for the best today!!!!

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Wow, never heard of a ejacket before! Very happy you guys got it to stay on! My fingers are crossed that everything goes well! I hope the lil fellow, and you, come out of this with more love for eachother than ever before mlove. Once he starts feeling better I bet he will be even sweeter and trustworthy than before! Hang in there! Your a great suggie Momma! hug2

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Oh man! You got a wiggly little boy! Denise, maybe in this case Elena needed a straight-jacket, not just e-jacket! Silly little man has got to leave that tail alone. I hope the vet visit goes well today! I know you will let us all know. You're all in my thoughts and prayers.

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Chuckles Update:
Jessica a wiggly boy is an understatement. Guess who at around 5 this morning found a way to slip one of the shoulder straps over his head and squirm out? Yup, you got it! I could have stopped him but I really needed to know if he could get it off so I'd know if I could actually sleep feeling secure in the knowledge that while I slept he was still in it. Even tho he managed to get out of the ecollar he couldn't get the contraption off his tail no matter how hard he tried, at least to this point anyway. Because this contraption is hard plastic it did not allow him to mess with the tip of his tail. So it at this point I'm considering a success. Tho only time will tell if he can eventually get it off too. But he's under my watchful eye and I have his shot glass ecollar handy at all times just in case. I'm heading to the vet's office in less then a half hour and will update again when I get home. Tho I don't expect to get home until this evening sometime. It's a long drive over and back. Now I know everyone is curious about the contraption I devised for his tail tip but until I know it works for it's intended purpose and doesn't cause him undue stress (tho at this point he doesn't seemed at all stressed out by it, he just went thru a period of curiosity then a faze of hum can I remove it, to finally oh well it stuck for now)I'm not going to give up the secret for fear others may try it and not be as vilgilant as I am about keeping an eye on their glider. So with that said know that I DO have my vet's consent and knowledge behind me as I walk thru uncharted territory. I promise to share my secret if and when it is determined that it does work and isn't harmful or stressful for a glider to be in. Keep Chuckles in your thoughts today as I know that he will have to have more of his tail amputated today.

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I will keep both of you in my thoughts. hug2 hug2 hug2

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While Elena is en route to the vet, I'm going to hijack this thread just long enough to answer your question about the e-jacket, Stacie:

You haven't heard much about it because it's one of those projects that's still in the "experimental" stages. I've spent the past 18 months (give or take) ACTIVELY working on different materials, different configurations, and practical test runs to make it a SAFE, effective alternative to the e-collar when possible. I'm sad to say that it's not going to make the shotglass/satellite/snap-on e-collars a thing of the past...there ARE injuries (such as a tail issue or paw wound) that require a barrier between a glider's mouth and the problem, and that's that. It's SO DOGGONE CLOSE to being dialed in....but a little more tweaking is required on ONE detail. Right now, there are a handful of glider slaves out there who have the jackets and are actively using them...and in cases of EXTREME suggie-mergencies, I add to the list.

Some may think I'm one step short of CRAZY for being so conservative...but that's my nature. I want to make sure that it's #1 SAFE, #2 EFFECTIVE, and #3 THE BEST THAT I CAN DO before I say to everyone "Hey, guess what? Blah blah blah..." In the past 18 months, I'd dare to say that there have been at least 5 changes here or there (guess what? #6 got locked in this morning! thumb ) and I get a little discouraged when a setback is encountered....but it's VERY VERY close to being "the best it can be". I'm hopeful that by the SISS in June, there'll be enough positive feedback that I can release the barriers.

We now return you to our regularly scheduled thread. Many many prayers and good thoughts heading your way, Elena hug2


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Minkas mom im guessing your Denise? Please correct me if im wrong, just putting 2 and 2 together. While you speak of the ecollar and jacket (sorry if im kinda off topic mods) it has reminded me that I really need an emergency kit. I have no idea what to put into it. or if they sell them previously made, I would just like to be safe incase something like this does happen.


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Yes, you are correct....my real name is Denise. If you were at the SGGA last year, we've met (though I can't exactly remember you--sorry).

I'm sending you a PM to start your "grocery list" so I don't hijack Elena's thread (again).


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How did it go with Chuckles? Any updates?


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Stacie you can purchase a ready made e kit on the TGI site. Link's in my signature.

Sorry so late with the update but I got on the phone as soon as I got in and quickly found out that I can't talk and type.

Chuckles Update:
Well Dr. Sue doesn't think that Chuckles over groomed his tail tip until he opened it. She thinks that he did over groom it bald but that the bone just worked it's way on it own. Then she wisked him away to work on his tail. When he was brought back to me she showed me his tail and said that she had to take off just under an inch. So he now has a tail about half the length it was before this all started. She told me that she found no infection at all neither in his tail or the neck wound. And that the neck wound was already showing signs of healing. She loved the ejacket, she'd of course never seen one before today. Needless to say Chuckles is sleepy from the meds she gave him. He woke up shortly for a very quick bite to eat then slept again until 11:30p when he decided that apple juice mixed with water was just to tempting. His is currently eating some, not much but still eating. smile Will up date again tomorrow.

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All sounds positive clap I am hoping for a speedy recovery, and this time without any hiccups. hug2


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Yay!!! Hope the little rascal learns from this and leaves it alone smile haha I hope and pray he heals wonderfully!


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Chuckles Update:
Chuckles slept all day finally decided to get up at around 9 last night. He ate pretty good then headed back to bed for another nap. Meds are making him quite sleepy. But he needs his sleep to heal so it's all good. He did take a quick run in his wheel around 2:30 this morning then he grabbed another few bites before heading back to bed. He is still in the ejacket a full 28 hours since he was put into it, on the 6th try LOL. And he's getting more accustumed to it being on him and moves around the cage very well. He hasn't gone after his tail at all. So he is making things easy on me. Such a good boy he is!

Liezl asked for photos a couple of days back but my camera has been playing tricks on me lately. Sometimes it tells me the memory is full, even when it's not, and it won't take any pictures. But then at other times it'll let me take photos. Tonight was one of the lucky tries and I got a photo. Notice Chuckles is in an ejacket and has my contraption covering his tail tip. Ya I know it's kinda covered but remember I said I wouldn't share the contraption until it had been vet approved and tested. It's been vet approved but Chuckles is still testing it. So when he's finished I promise to share my very simple contraption with everyone. Any way look at how clean he is. He can still groom while in the ejacket, eat with his own hands (I no longer have to hand feed him. I set his plate out at night just like my other cages), smile walk and climb like normal, and as he found out tonight even run in his wheel. He just seems more comfortable in general in the ejacket. But the best thing is now that there is nothing rubbing on his neck his neck wound is on the mend again. Now the only thing that touches his neck is a soft material.


And I was pleasantly surprised to find this Christmas photo on the camera too. Totally forgot I had taken it with all Chuckles has been thru since then. This photo was taken back when Chuckles was still in the shot glass ecollar. I had taken it off so he could enjoy his Christmas day meal with his own hands. The ecollar prevented him from eating with his own hands. So I had to feed a liquid diet (BML, baby fruits, and baby veggies) by offering it to him on a spoon every three hours. Round the clock to be sure he ate the proper amount of food in for the day. This dedication is why he maintained his weight during his time in the ecollar. But boy did the feedings play havioc on my sleep schedule. LOL See how unkept he looks in the Christmas photo. The ecollar made it impossible for him to groom. He was able to walk, climb, and run akwardly if he held his neck back. Poor thing he hated it and was constantly trying to get it off. Which lead to the complication of his finger tips swelling. Another huge issue was the 3 necks wounds the rubbing of the ecollar made on his neck. Boy am I happy that the ejacket and tail "contraption" combo is working and I don't have to put the ecollar back on.


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Hang in there Elena and Chuckles.

And THANK YOU DENISE!


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Chuckles Update:
Well this morning when Chuck spelled me to get a quick nap before he headed off to work. I guess he gave Chuckles a few minutes alone in the cage and Chuckles used that time to chew off some of the tape. Luckly he didn't get his tail in the chewing. So I covered the tape and a bit of his tail above it in vet wrap leaving the "contraption" holes open. Grr! He's determined to add a few gray hairs to my head. LOL Tho I'll bet Chuck won't leave him alone for even a second when he on babysitting duty from now on when he gets home tonightand finds this out. I feel sorry for him as he will feel so bad about this. But he'll also learn a very important lesson. When on babysitting duty with an injured glider you must have then in your sight at all times. Thankfully Chuckles didn't hurt himself as he attempted to get the tape off.

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Getting the tape off might have been ALL he was trying to do. Sadly, no way to know that without just letting him do it.


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Well he sure tore the tape he didn't manage to get it off so my "contraption" stayed in place. I don't believe he was trying to SM as he has not tried in the month or so we've been going thru this. He just didn't want the tape and "contraption" on him so he was trying to get it off.

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And leaving the jacket alone in the process....go figure! The boy just WILL NOT be happy unless he's picking at SOMETHING! shakehead


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Ha ha ha I totally agree with you Denise!

Chuckles and I are again walking the long loney night together. This time as I type he is actually awake. He's currently eating. Most of the night he slept in his pouch on my lap as I worked on a project for a friend. He's still in the ejacket. And the vet wrap is still in place over the tape to keep him from trying to get it off again. I'm planning on giving him a break from the ejacket in the morning so he can groom for a bit, this will also allow me to get a good look at his neck to see how it's doing and dress it if needed. Then back in he the jacket goes and I'll clean and dress his tail and give him his meds. Hopefully after all of this he'll be tired enough to sleep and not bother the dressing on his tail or try to wiggle out of the ejacket. Well that's my plan anyway.

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I hope you find good news under that jacket Elena. Soon this battle will end for both of you.


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Momma's staying up with you,
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Sorry Liezl here's an update.

Chuckles Update:
Chuckles is still in the ejacket so all is well there. His sore on his neck has scabbed and is on the mend. Tail "contraption" is also still in place and under it his tail looks real good too. So another overall good report. Sure hope from now on I have nothing but good news to share.

Jessica thank you. I think he was getting tired of Silent Night. He actually stopped to stare at me when I sang your song to him so I believe that means he liked it.

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clap Keep it this way! clap

I'm very impressed that the e-jacket and "contraption" is still in place. dance


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Sending lots of love, patience and healing your way....tail issues are never fun to deal with.

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Chuckles Update:
Well Chuckles is doing real good. His tail is healing real good. The "contraption" is working out terriffic! His tail tip isn't bruising at all this time as it did the first amputation. And it's staying nice and dry inside. Ejacket is still on. and the "contraption" is still in place. But he's still trying to take it off. I've used so much vetwrap on it that Chuckles went thru the whole roll. He has a quick check up tomorrow at the vet's then removes the stiches at the end of the month. So will update more then.

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Hope it all continues like this for you and Chuckles! You two have gone through so much already. hug2


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So good to hear the news! And I know you know where the Midland Farm and home store is - they have GREAT prices on vetwrap. Good enough prices that you can afford to try to mummify your college roommate LOL while in college. (Hey it was a bad idea but then again most all-nighter ideas are in college).

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Originally Posted By: lovely1inred
So good to hear the news! And I know you know where the Midland Farm and home store is - they have GREAT prices on vetwrap. Good enough prices that you can afford to try to mummify your college roommate LOL while in college. (Hey it was a bad idea but then again most all-nighter ideas are in college).


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Originally Posted By: GliderNursery
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So good to hear the news! And I know you know where the Midland Farm and home store is - they have GREAT prices on vetwrap. Good enough prices that you can afford to try to mummify your college roommate LOL while in college. (Hey it was a bad idea but then again most all-nighter ideas are in college).


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I'll hang out with you Shelly cause I know for sure Jessica would do it too me given the chance. ROFL

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Chuckles Update:
Well he managed to chew the straps of his ejacket and get out of it. I repaired it and put it back on. He was back out of it again in less then 10 hours. He hasn't messed with the contraption on his tail so this time I'm just keeping an eye on him. If he continues not to mess with it I won't put it back on.

I have a photo of him to show everyone how well he is doing at this point. It was taken after his first escape and before he got out of it again. Check out the shot where he is standing on his back legs eating. I had to get a picture of that. LOL




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Chuckles Update:
Chuckles has not messed with the contraption on his tail so is not back in the ecollar. But he is under constant supervision. Today was his last day of antibioatics so just pain meds. Tip looks great just a small scab and the stitches. Stitches come out on Friday so we'll see what doc thinks at that time. Contraption will need to stay in place until the scab falls off and may need to stay in place until the hair is at least half way grown in but doc will decide that. So another good overall report. YAY!!!

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Originally Posted By: hpyhwn2003
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So good to hear the news! And I know you know where the Midland Farm and home store is - they have GREAT prices on vetwrap. Good enough prices that you can afford to try to mummify your college roommate LOL while in college. (Hey it was a bad idea but then again most all-nighter ideas are in college).


Remind me to stay awake if you're at a gathering with me! roflmao


I'll hang out with you Shelly cause I know for sure Jessica would do it too me given the chance. ROFL


What, me???? *innocent puppy eyes*

Chuckles looks great!!!! He's been a real trooper and so have you Elena!

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Oh Jessica, you can't possibly be playing innocent now, can you??? roflmao

Love hearing these good reports Elena! smile


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shock Do you mean to tell me that your little so-and-so chewed through the Velboa straps? (but then again, they WERE only single thickness weren't they?) I see that in the pics the straps were made of fleece...which we now realize are too easily stetched with time and all that...

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Denise he got thru the fleece straps. I hadn't put on the remake version with the Velboa straps as the orginial was in good shape and to that point he hadn't gotten out of it. But as he showed us he is a very determined little guy. After a talking to from mommy in which he was told if he left his tail contraption alone I'd not put on the new ejacket. 2 days and running he's kept his end of the bargin so I haven't put an ejacket back on. You can be sure I have the new ejacket handy if I need to but so far he's being good. Stinker isn't giving me the chance to test version 2. But as long as he's good I'll keep my bargin too. I'll be sure not to give him and Spencer time to chat as between the 2 of them we'd have serious escape attempts going on. LOL Chuck can't believe just how smart Chuckles is and how sly. Chuckles never made attampts to chew the straps when we were there to see him. Apparentlly he was hard at work everytime we turned our back.

I did learn that even if they stay in an ecollar or jacket for a few days that doesn't mean they won't figure a way out eventually so they have to be under supervision throughout their entire stay in them.

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I wonder if bitter apple would deter their chewing on the straps. I spay that on the straps to my one parrots flight suit, she has a little tuxedo that she wears to the bark and wine event at the humane society every year.


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Oh now there's an idea! I think some of us might coat a few cage items in it if it works LOL those dern chewers!

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Whoa whoa whoa Jessica! While that might be a "quick fix" to a problem, it'll come zinging back in your face come the long run! shakehead They'll only become "accustomed" to the flavor & when you NEED it to deter them....it won't.


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Well I was half-joking but I see your point! What to do what to do....gliders and their gnawing teeth...

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Chuckles Update:
Chuckles tail is looking much better. It has a scab that is being stubborn and won't fall off. It has peach fuzz coming back in. The contraption is still in place and he's not trying to chew on it. The contraption has worked wonders in keeping him away from his tail tip. Everytime I check it it's dry inside, which was one of our major concerns with the device. Chuck modified the original version and now I don't have to pull off the tape on his tail everytime I check and flush the tip. Prior to the upgrade I had to get the tape off to treat the site. Needless to say my heart hurt for the pain the removing the tape caused Chuckles. Now the piece I remove is tape to another piece that is taped on his tail. So I only need to remove the tape that doesn't stick to his hair. I'll only need to remove that tape when it's time to remove the contraption for good. So far the contraption has been a success. When it is completely removed for the last time I'll reveal the product Chuck can up with. However, when I do I'll also state that it must be udes in cunjunction with the ejacket made by Denise and can NOT be used alone due to gliders wanting it off and the ejacket preventing them to take it off. I'll also advise that the glider wearing it be under constant supervision.

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Sorry folks no photos updates today. But wanted to say Chuckles is doing good today. Can't wait to get him to the vet's office on Friday to have the stitches removed.

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yaaaay only one more day smile I'm so happy he gets the stitches out then he can fully heal smile *hugs*


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Off to the vet today. Keep praying for him.

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Hi, Elena! I just wanted to let you know that our family is thinking of you today and praying for little Chuckles! Having been in a similar situation with one of our own, I fully understand how heartbreaking this is for you. Please know that both you and Chuckles are, and will continue to be, in our thoughts and prayers. -Alicia



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I also wanted to quickly add that we have always had Wodents (with safety guards) in all of our habitats but, because of Chuckles, will be upgrading everyone to a safer exercise wheel! Now, if only I could decide which one (TGI, CC, or Stealth ... hmmmm!)! -Alicia



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Chuckles is doing great. Doc took his stitches out today. She was very pleased with his healing. She wants the contraption to stay in place until his hair has grown to half it normal length. Says less chance of his overgrooming the area. That's fine with me and Chuckles has grown so used to it that I'm betting that he'll wonder where it went when it is time to take it off. LOL Well likely he'll be thrilled but really it just doesn't seem to bother him. I'm so happy for my wee one. smile

Denise remember back when I asked you to test drive the ejacket? I said that my main goal with it was to keep him away from his contraption. Well it did the job perfectly! Chuckles was so distracted with the ejacket that he just grew accostomed to the tail "E Tip".<-- What do you think? Thanks a bunch Denise from the bottom of my heart and Chuckles' too! mlove


Thank you everyone for your prayers. There's still more healing time ahead but with the E Tip in place Chuckles has a better chance of healing without mishap.

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Elena, I am looking forward to seeing this mystery "contraption" patented and made available to vets... laugh Haha.

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I wanted everyone to see how Chuckles tail tip looks now. I got this photo last night during his treatment.

Stitches are gone. What you see is the area that getting the stitches out left behind. So a little more healing on those spots.

Chuckles always gets a treat for putting up with his treatments and here he is.

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Looks great Elena! clap Chuckles, you are such a trooper!


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Quick photo update on Chuckles. He's doing great. Haven't been able to take the E Tip off yet as his tip still has scabs. But won't be long now as his hair is almost half the length of the rest of his fur. He's feeling real good as you'll see in the photos below where he is playing with an euc branch.

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What a trooper he's been! I'm keeping you both in my thoughts and I hope the rest of his recovery time goes by quickly!


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Finally time for another update.
Prayers needed!
The E Tip came off today. Everything looks good underneith it so I thought why not leave it off and see if Chuckles will leave it alone and let it finish healing with better air flow. So it's off and now I watch and pray. I'm asking for prayers that he will leave it alone as he was grooming like crazy for a while. Last I checked on him he was sleeping but as we all know the day time is not when he'll over groom. So pray that he's not interested in over grooming.

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Prayers coming little Chuckles way that he will be a good boy and his tail will heal. smile


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Thank you Janet.

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Praying big time! Hope the lil bugger leaves that tail alone!

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Hoping for the best, let us know how it's going!


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Thanks everyone!

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You tell that little fuzzfaced BRAT that Aunt Denise is gonna come and POUND HIS BUTT if he doesn't leave his tail alone!!!!! :rofllmao: And if he thinks I'm kidding.....well, he's got another think a-comin' tant

And if THAT doesn't scare him into behaving, I'll order a low-level flyover that'll do it for SURE! thumb


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You tell that little fuzzfaced BRAT that Aunt Denise is gonna come and POUND HIS BUTT if he doesn't leave his tail alone!!!!! roflmao And if he thinks I'm kidding.....well, he's got another think a-comin' tant

And if THAT doesn't scare him into behaving, I'll order a low-level flyover that'll do it for SURE! thumb

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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2 [Re: sugarlope] #1075014
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Chuckles Update:
I just checked his tail again and he's leaving it alone! YAY! It looks so much better. The incision site is barely visible any longer.

LOL Denise I don't think a fly by will be needed but a visit will always be welcome.

Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2 [Re: hpyhwn2003] #1075071
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I'm so happy to see how well Chuckles is healing!
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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2 [Re: sugarlope] #1075077
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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2 [Re: sugarlope] #1075107
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He knew if he bothered it, Auntie Denise was a commin after him!

Great news!!!


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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2 [Re: sugarlope] #1075153
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Excellent! Love updates like this! clap

Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2 [Re: sugarlope] #1075163
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Such great news, that's wonderful!!!


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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2 [Re: sugarlope] #1076186
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Very quick update I did another tail check and it looks okay.

Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2 [Re: sugarlope] #1076228
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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2 [Re: sugarlope] #1076233
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dance That's MOST EXCELLENT!

Side note, Elena: I've become a hoarder of a certain something...and hit a "motherlode" grin ...I might add them to a box that's heading west. It'll make it rattle EVEN worse than it was going to in the first place!


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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2 [Re: hpyhwn2003] #1076251
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Originally Posted By: hpyhwn2003
Very quick update I did another tail check and it looks okay.


YAY! jump

Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2 [Re: sugarlope] #1076285
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YAY, continued good news, that's great!!!!


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