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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2
[Re: sugarlope]
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01/12/11 05:51 AM
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I am so glad you got the e-jacket! Denise is just such a wonderful and thoughtful person. Elena, is it possible to post a picture sometime of Chuckles? We are crossing all crossables that all will go well until you can get him to the vet and praying for a fast recovery. Both you and Chuckles have been through a lot already.
Casper & Liezl Gizzy, Boesman, Muchu, Kiamon, Sky & Boog A glider's eyes have the power to speak a great language RIP Sugar 2009 & Kaida 2013
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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2
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01/12/11 09:49 AM
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Wow, what a story! And and kudos to that wonderful husband of yours for helping you so much and being such a kindhearted man! Thinking of you and Chuckles and hoping for the best today!!!!
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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2
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01/12/11 09:54 AM
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Wow, never heard of a ejacket before! Very happy you guys got it to stay on! My fingers are crossed that everything goes well! I hope the lil fellow, and you, come out of this with more love for eachother than ever before . Once he starts feeling better I bet he will be even sweeter and trustworthy than before! Hang in there! Your a great suggie Momma!
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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2
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01/12/11 10:00 AM
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Oh man! You got a wiggly little boy! Denise, maybe in this case Elena needed a straight-jacket, not just e-jacket! Silly little man has got to leave that tail alone. I hope the vet visit goes well today! I know you will let us all know. You're all in my thoughts and prayers.
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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2
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01/12/11 11:42 AM
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Chuckles Update: Jessica a wiggly boy is an understatement. Guess who at around 5 this morning found a way to slip one of the shoulder straps over his head and squirm out? Yup, you got it! I could have stopped him but I really needed to know if he could get it off so I'd know if I could actually sleep feeling secure in the knowledge that while I slept he was still in it. Even tho he managed to get out of the ecollar he couldn't get the contraption off his tail no matter how hard he tried, at least to this point anyway. Because this contraption is hard plastic it did not allow him to mess with the tip of his tail. So it at this point I'm considering a success. Tho only time will tell if he can eventually get it off too. But he's under my watchful eye and I have his shot glass ecollar handy at all times just in case. I'm heading to the vet's office in less then a half hour and will update again when I get home. Tho I don't expect to get home until this evening sometime. It's a long drive over and back. Now I know everyone is curious about the contraption I devised for his tail tip but until I know it works for it's intended purpose and doesn't cause him undue stress (tho at this point he doesn't seemed at all stressed out by it, he just went thru a period of curiosity then a faze of hum can I remove it, to finally oh well it stuck for now)I'm not going to give up the secret for fear others may try it and not be as vilgilant as I am about keeping an eye on their glider. So with that said know that I DO have my vet's consent and knowledge behind me as I walk thru uncharted territory. I promise to share my secret if and when it is determined that it does work and isn't harmful or stressful for a glider to be in. Keep Chuckles in your thoughts today as I know that he will have to have more of his tail amputated today.
Last edited by hpyhwn2003; 01/12/11 11:47 AM. Reason: Spelling sucks after a sleepless night.
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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2
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01/12/11 12:22 PM
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I will keep both of you in my thoughts. Good luck.
Casper & Liezl Gizzy, Boesman, Muchu, Kiamon, Sky & Boog A glider's eyes have the power to speak a great language RIP Sugar 2009 & Kaida 2013
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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2
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01/12/11 01:40 PM
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While Elena is en route to the vet, I'm going to hijack this thread just long enough to answer your question about the e-jacket, Stacie: You haven't heard much about it because it's one of those projects that's still in the "experimental" stages. I've spent the past 18 months (give or take) ACTIVELY working on different materials, different configurations, and practical test runs to make it a SAFE, effective alternative to the e-collar when possible. I'm sad to say that it's not going to make the shotglass/satellite/snap-on e-collars a thing of the past...there ARE injuries (such as a tail issue or paw wound) that require a barrier between a glider's mouth and the problem, and that's that. It's SO DOGGONE CLOSE to being dialed in....but a little more tweaking is required on ONE detail. Right now, there are a handful of glider slaves out there who have the jackets and are actively using them...and in cases of EXTREME suggie-mergencies, I add to the list. Some may think I'm one step short of CRAZY for being so conservative...but that's my nature. I want to make sure that it's #1 SAFE, #2 EFFECTIVE, and #3 THE BEST THAT I CAN DO before I say to everyone "Hey, guess what? Blah blah blah..." In the past 18 months, I'd dare to say that there have been at least 5 changes here or there (guess what? #6 got locked in this morning! ) and I get a little discouraged when a setback is encountered....but it's VERY VERY close to being "the best it can be". I'm hopeful that by the SISS in June, there'll be enough positive feedback that I can release the barriers. We now return you to our regularly scheduled thread. Many many prayers and good thoughts heading your way, Elena
Minkasmom (Papillon Kisses) Slave to: 25 gliders,4 cats, and ONE husband (can't handle two, lol!) Remembering all my lost loves
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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2
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01/12/11 11:40 PM
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Minkas mom im guessing your Denise? Please correct me if im wrong, just putting 2 and 2 together. While you speak of the ecollar and jacket (sorry if im kinda off topic mods) it has reminded me that I really need an emergency kit. I have no idea what to put into it. or if they sell them previously made, I would just like to be safe incase something like this does happen.
"The purity of a person's heart can be quickly measured by how they regard animals" *Stitch* *Button* *Charlie* Cats: Rista and Cali ~*Stacie*~
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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2
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01/13/11 12:02 AM
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Yes, you are correct....my real name is Denise. If you were at the SGGA last year, we've met (though I can't exactly remember you--sorry).
I'm sending you a PM to start your "grocery list" so I don't hijack Elena's thread (again).
Minkasmom (Papillon Kisses) Slave to: 25 gliders,4 cats, and ONE husband (can't handle two, lol!) Remembering all my lost loves
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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2
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01/13/11 01:34 AM
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How did it go with Chuckles? Any updates?
Casper & Liezl Gizzy, Boesman, Muchu, Kiamon, Sky & Boog A glider's eyes have the power to speak a great language RIP Sugar 2009 & Kaida 2013
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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2
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01/13/11 01:55 AM
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Stacie you can purchase a ready made e kit on the TGI site. Link's in my signature. Sorry so late with the update but I got on the phone as soon as I got in and quickly found out that I can't talk and type. Chuckles Update: Well Dr. Sue doesn't think that Chuckles over groomed his tail tip until he opened it. She thinks that he did over groom it bald but that the bone just worked it's way on it own. Then she wisked him away to work on his tail. When he was brought back to me she showed me his tail and said that she had to take off just under an inch. So he now has a tail about half the length it was before this all started. She told me that she found no infection at all neither in his tail or the neck wound. And that the neck wound was already showing signs of healing. She loved the ejacket, she'd of course never seen one before today. Needless to say Chuckles is sleepy from the meds she gave him. He woke up shortly for a very quick bite to eat then slept again until 11:30p when he decided that apple juice mixed with water was just to tempting. His is currently eating some, not much but still eating. Will up date again tomorrow.
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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2
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01/13/11 02:15 AM
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All sounds positive I am hoping for a speedy recovery, and this time without any hiccups.
Casper & Liezl Gizzy, Boesman, Muchu, Kiamon, Sky & Boog A glider's eyes have the power to speak a great language RIP Sugar 2009 & Kaida 2013
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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2
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01/13/11 03:19 AM
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Yay!!! Hope the little rascal learns from this and leaves it alone haha I hope and pray he heals wonderfully!
"The purity of a person's heart can be quickly measured by how they regard animals" *Stitch* *Button* *Charlie* Cats: Rista and Cali ~*Stacie*~
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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2
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01/14/11 05:59 AM
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Chuckles Update: Chuckles slept all day finally decided to get up at around 9 last night. He ate pretty good then headed back to bed for another nap. Meds are making him quite sleepy. But he needs his sleep to heal so it's all good. He did take a quick run in his wheel around 2:30 this morning then he grabbed another few bites before heading back to bed. He is still in the ejacket a full 28 hours since he was put into it, on the 6th try LOL. And he's getting more accustumed to it being on him and moves around the cage very well. He hasn't gone after his tail at all. So he is making things easy on me. Such a good boy he is! Liezl asked for photos a couple of days back but my camera has been playing tricks on me lately. Sometimes it tells me the memory is full, even when it's not, and it won't take any pictures. But then at other times it'll let me take photos. Tonight was one of the lucky tries and I got a photo. Notice Chuckles is in an ejacket and has my contraption covering his tail tip. Ya I know it's kinda covered but remember I said I wouldn't share the contraption until it had been vet approved and tested. It's been vet approved but Chuckles is still testing it. So when he's finished I promise to share my very simple contraption with everyone. Any way look at how clean he is. He can still groom while in the ejacket, eat with his own hands (I no longer have to hand feed him. I set his plate out at night just like my other cages), walk and climb like normal, and as he found out tonight even run in his wheel. He just seems more comfortable in general in the ejacket. But the best thing is now that there is nothing rubbing on his neck his neck wound is on the mend again. Now the only thing that touches his neck is a soft material. And I was pleasantly surprised to find this Christmas photo on the camera too. Totally forgot I had taken it with all Chuckles has been thru since then. This photo was taken back when Chuckles was still in the shot glass ecollar. I had taken it off so he could enjoy his Christmas day meal with his own hands. The ecollar prevented him from eating with his own hands. So I had to feed a liquid diet (BML, baby fruits, and baby veggies) by offering it to him on a spoon every three hours. Round the clock to be sure he ate the proper amount of food in for the day. This dedication is why he maintained his weight during his time in the ecollar. But boy did the feedings play havioc on my sleep schedule. LOL See how unkept he looks in the Christmas photo. The ecollar made it impossible for him to groom. He was able to walk, climb, and run akwardly if he held his neck back. Poor thing he hated it and was constantly trying to get it off. Which lead to the complication of his finger tips swelling. Another huge issue was the 3 necks wounds the rubbing of the ecollar made on his neck. Boy am I happy that the ejacket and tail "contraption" combo is working and I don't have to put the ecollar back on.
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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2
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01/14/11 07:06 AM
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Hang in there Elena and Chuckles.
And THANK YOU DENISE!
620-704-9109 Judge not until you have walked in their shoes and lived their lives. What you see online is only part of the story.
I could have missed the pain But I'd of had to miss the dance
The soul would have no rainbow if the eyes had no tears.
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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2
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01/14/11 02:36 PM
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Chuckles Update: Well this morning when Chuck spelled me to get a quick nap before he headed off to work. I guess he gave Chuckles a few minutes alone in the cage and Chuckles used that time to chew off some of the tape. Luckly he didn't get his tail in the chewing. So I covered the tape and a bit of his tail above it in vet wrap leaving the "contraption" holes open. Grr! He's determined to add a few gray hairs to my head. LOL Tho I'll bet Chuck won't leave him alone for even a second when he on babysitting duty from now on when he gets home tonightand finds this out. I feel sorry for him as he will feel so bad about this. But he'll also learn a very important lesson. When on babysitting duty with an injured glider you must have then in your sight at all times. Thankfully Chuckles didn't hurt himself as he attempted to get the tape off.
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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2
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01/14/11 05:09 PM
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Getting the tape off might have been ALL he was trying to do. Sadly, no way to know that without just letting him do it.
620-704-9109 Judge not until you have walked in their shoes and lived their lives. What you see online is only part of the story.
I could have missed the pain But I'd of had to miss the dance
The soul would have no rainbow if the eyes had no tears.
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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2
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01/14/11 10:05 PM
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And leaving the jacket alone in the process....go figure! The boy just WILL NOT be happy unless he's picking at SOMETHING!
Minkasmom (Papillon Kisses) Slave to: 25 gliders,4 cats, and ONE husband (can't handle two, lol!) Remembering all my lost loves
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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2
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01/15/11 05:41 AM
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Ha ha ha I totally agree with you Denise! Chuckles and I are again walking the long loney night together. This time as I type he is actually awake. He's currently eating. Most of the night he slept in his pouch on my lap as I worked on a project for a friend. He's still in the ejacket. And the vet wrap is still in place over the tape to keep him from trying to get it off again. I'm planning on giving him a break from the ejacket in the morning so he can groom for a bit, this will also allow me to get a good look at his neck to see how it's doing and dress it if needed. Then back in he the jacket goes and I'll clean and dress his tail and give him his meds. Hopefully after all of this he'll be tired enough to sleep and not bother the dressing on his tail or try to wiggle out of the ejacket. Well that's my plan anyway.
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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2
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01/15/11 05:59 AM
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I hope you find good news under that jacket Elena. Soon this battle will end for both of you.
Casper & Liezl Gizzy, Boesman, Muchu, Kiamon, Sky & Boog A glider's eyes have the power to speak a great language RIP Sugar 2009 & Kaida 2013
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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2
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01/15/11 08:44 AM
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Here's a song for Chuckles, to the tune of "Row row your boat" Don't, don't touch your tail, or it will never grow! Momma's staying up with you, you need to let it go! You can sing to him when he's really stressing
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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2
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Casper & Liezl Gizzy, Boesman, Muchu, Kiamon, Sky & Boog A glider's eyes have the power to speak a great language RIP Sugar 2009 & Kaida 2013
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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2
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01/17/11 07:51 AM
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Keep it this way! I'm very impressed that the e-jacket and "contraption" is still in place.
Casper & Liezl Gizzy, Boesman, Muchu, Kiamon, Sky & Boog A glider's eyes have the power to speak a great language RIP Sugar 2009 & Kaida 2013
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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2
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01/17/11 09:25 AM
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Sending lots of love, patience and healing your way....tail issues are never fun to deal with.
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Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail - Part 2
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01/18/11 11:24 PM
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Chuckles Update: Well Chuckles is doing real good. His tail is healing real good. The "contraption" is working out terriffic! His tail tip isn't bruising at all this time as it did the first amputation. And it's staying nice and dry inside. Ejacket is still on. and the "contraption" is still in place. But he's still trying to take it off. I've used so much vetwrap on it that Chuckles went thru the whole roll. He has a quick check up tomorrow at the vet's then removes the stiches at the end of the month. So will update more then.
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