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Re: Cage sizes and gliding.
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03/20/11 01:44 PM
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No clue, I also wonder about cages that are crammed pack full of toys and cage sets and whatnot. I was going to even post a thread asking if there is such a thing as too many toys.
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Re: Cage sizes and gliding.
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03/20/11 02:25 PM
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I think there is such a thing as too many toys in the cage at one time but no such thing as too many toys available to rotate in and out!
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Re: Cage sizes and gliding.
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03/20/11 04:59 PM
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You know, T...you're right. I'm one that has told people that the taller the cage, the better they can glide and you're absolutely right, they really can't glide, all they can do is jump. I stand corrected. But...I will tell you that in my cage, which is MUCH taller than my other cage, my monkeys will utilize the entire height of the cage and will JUMP from top to bottom, something they never did in their other cage because it was much wider than it was tall. So...while they can't really glide, I do believe that at least with MY monkeys, they LOVE the height they have now.
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Re: Cage sizes and gliding.
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03/20/11 05:06 PM
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I think it depends on the glider, too. Some of my gliders will drop from the ceiling to the floor or jump from the sides to the floor. I absolutely agree that there isn't any gliding going on in their cages. If you get a 8-10 ft cage, maybe, but not in the cages most of us have.
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Re: Cage sizes and gliding.
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03/20/11 05:41 PM
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That was one of the points I was thinking of when I started this thread Is cage size important
Last edited by JillMarie; 03/20/11 05:43 PM.
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Re: Cage sizes and gliding.
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03/20/11 09:22 PM
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I dropped by to see some cages sizes because I lost one out of the back of my truck on the way home from the car wash today. I couldn't find it so I am planning a Klubertans order.
The problem is I have 2x2x5 cages made of the heavey wire. With the shoulder problems I have been having I can't move cages alone any more. I also can not reach the back of the cages. I am thinking about going 18 inches deep and with light gauge wire. That will work for my pairs but thinking I need wider to make up for the depth with the trio.
Pulling my hair out any ideas?
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Re: Cage sizes and gliding.
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03/21/11 12:58 AM
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Just a wild guess on my part, I could be wrong, but I think the "taller is better" idea comes from deterring new owners from purchasing cages similar to this http://www.petsmart.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2753643It's close to the most often recommended 2x2x3 but would it really suit a pair of gliders? Nope.
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Re: Cage sizes and gliding.
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03/21/11 08:28 AM
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I dropped by to see some cages sizes because I lost one out of the back of my truck on the way home from the car wash today.
I am thinking about going 18 inches deep and with light gauge wire. That will work for my pairs but thinking I need wider to make up for the depth with the trio.
Pulling my hair out any ideas? OMG - you lost a cage??? Melissa/ssdreamsicles made her first Klubertanz cage here last weekend. It's 16 gauge wire, 30" x 18" x 60" tall. I would suggest using the 14 gauge wire for the front panel to give more stability where the doors are cut out, but the rest is fine with the lighter gauge. I order the width wire for each panel because it is about the same price per ft, so ordered 30" wide and 18" wide for Melissa's cage. There are fewer cuts, and the edges are finished. I also bend the wire where possible instead of cutting to make it more stable.
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Re: Cage sizes and gliding.
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03/21/11 02:55 PM
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No clue, I also wonder about cages that are crammed pack full of toys and cage sets and whatnot. I was going to even post a thread asking if there is such a thing as too many toys. That is one of the topics in Suncoast's newsletter this month. After reading it, I thought about all those cages packed with cage sets too. We think that the more toys we get them, the better but that might not be the case. I always try to keep an open area in the cage for my gliders to be able to move and jump around from toy to toy instead of just climbing and reaching out to get onto their toys.
Jenny Mom to sugar gliders Flower , Meeko , Freedom Skipper and Ava as well as 2 dogs, Coco and Macey seven cats, Chica, Nala, Balls, Belly, Princesa, Kitten little, and OJ an Amazon parrot, Pancho and a cockatiel, Pio
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Re: Cage sizes and gliding.
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03/21/11 03:58 PM
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CKB, my cages are 36 wide, 24 deep and 40 tall. (plus the stands they are on). I have up to 4 gliders in these cages and they do really well. (most have 2 gliders in them though, one has a single glider) They seem to do so much better in these than the standard 55" flight cages (30x18x55). They are more active in them and use more of the cage for playing. I do have difficulty getting them outside sometimes as we have small interior doors here but it works, just have to be careful is all. For me, the important thing is to have wheels on the stands so they can be pushed, not carried outside. The very real down side is winter time when I can't wash them outside and they are too big (to wide) to fit in my bath tub for cleaning. If I were to make my own cages, I would definately make them where they fit in the tub! Maybe I need to remodel my bathroom and make either a big walk in shower or put in a much larger tub? Wonder if I can talk the hubby into it?
620-704-9109 Judge not until you have walked in their shoes and lived their lives. What you see online is only part of the story.
I could have missed the pain But I'd of had to miss the dance
The soul would have no rainbow if the eyes had no tears.
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Re: Cage sizes and gliding.
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03/21/11 04:08 PM
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I'd have to agree with you my rept is 5ft 9in long, 2-3ft wide, and about 5ft tall. They enjoy the space and they'll jump and run around but I have yet to see them glide in it. As far as toys go I have their wheel, 2 foraging toys and 3 other toys plus a few spots I hang barrel of monkeys from. They also have a couple ledges that are part of the cage (one hanging from the top and the other holds the wheel. I also switch them out every so often. Like today I'll put their big almost blanket thing in there that has ties for rattles and stuff and a couple pouches on it since they haven't had it since last week. Glad you brought this up! I was kind of confused about it myself.
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Re: Cage sizes and gliding.
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03/21/11 10:34 PM
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For me, being someone who HAS one of the 30x18x55 cages, my gliders do just wonderfully in their cage. I agree Teresa that too many toys and clutter can prevent and restrict their movement a bit as you said in a previous post, but in terms of the dimensions and size, I think for two gliders, it's a great cage. Mine DO like to play on the floor alot, I find them running around on the bottom all the time, so for me, this is actually the IDEAL size cage for my gliders....
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Re: Cage sizes and gliding.
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03/22/11 12:44 AM
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Ferrets WILL KILL gliders. Do NOT let them intermingle...
620-704-9109 Judge not until you have walked in their shoes and lived their lives. What you see online is only part of the story.
I could have missed the pain But I'd of had to miss the dance
The soul would have no rainbow if the eyes had no tears.
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Re: Cage sizes and gliding.
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03/22/11 12:00 PM
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Gliding around here only happens OUTSIDE the cage. They will glide from person to person, or from the top of a curtain rod or shower door to me. In the cage, it is only jumping, even though my cages are all on the larger side (5-6 ft tall and 30"-36" wide, and minimum of 24" deep). The "magic" gliding number must be the 55" width of Janie's cage! That is HUGE! There is actually 16% more room (in cubic inches) in Teresa's cage, which sounds like the Q16B, than the 30x18x55 flight cages due to the extra depth and width. I am about to sell my largest cage, a Klubertanz 24"x36"x60", because it is TOO big. (How about that one, KB? ) I have a trio in there that only utilizes about half of the space. All of my cages are on stands at least 18" tall.
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Jackson/Izzie, Lukas/Leilah, Mizuki/Elektra, Oliver/Ava, Ramon/Paloma, Charming/Snow Rest of the menagerie: dogs, cats, corn snake, bearded dragon
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Re: Cage sizes and gliding.
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03/22/11 02:02 PM
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Very sadly, Mikey found out the hard way about ferrets and gliders. He was at the SGGA and on the last day, called home to let them know his flight plans and found out that his ferret had killed one of his gliders. This was such a horrible end to a fantastic weekend for him.
It was a very hard lesson for all of us to witness. He had done all he could to prevent them from interacting but one escape was all it took.
I've had ferrets and gliders at the same time but NEVER let them come anywhere near each other. Ferrets are extreme preditors even though they seem to be so docile in nature.
620-704-9109 Judge not until you have walked in their shoes and lived their lives. What you see online is only part of the story.
I could have missed the pain But I'd of had to miss the dance
The soul would have no rainbow if the eyes had no tears.
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Re: Cage sizes and gliding.
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03/22/11 07:41 PM
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Lindsay, yes, the 55 inches is the height of the cage...30 inches is the width and 18 inches is the depth...mine is just on wheels on the ground, not up on a stand or anything and mine love their cage...they use ALL of it, I hear and see them running around on the bottom all the time...if I had the room I would love to give them an aviary of some sort....ahhhhhh one day!!
Jess
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Re: Cage sizes and gliding.
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03/22/11 10:50 PM
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Its more along the lines of what your glider likes. I know you probably wont get a few cages and try them out lol. My cage is one that I have made, It is 4ft long by 4ft tall and 2ft deep. So it is plenty big. As for having to many toys I would say no as long as there is enough room for them to glide back and forth at least a few ways.
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