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Petey - Complications from Torb
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04/28/11 12:45 AM
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Last edited by sugarlope; 11/28/11 08:31 PM. Reason: changed title
Pat You have not lived until you have done something for someone who can never repay you.....Unknown Rest in Peace our little sweet friends that have crossed over the "Rainbow Bridge". I miss you  Boo-Boo, Lucy, BJ, and Fivel
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Re: Petey - Complications from Torb
[Re: Cora]
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04/28/11 12:57 AM
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oh no!!! lit a candle for Petey, I feel terrible for her, I so know the pain of losing a glider your close to. Me too Cora and as much as I try to put it behind me it always comes back like a knife to the heart :O( I feel so bad for her as she is so upset and I am a zillion miles away and can only offer my sympathy. So very heartbreaking.... Everyone love on your babies!!!
Pat You have not lived until you have done something for someone who can never repay you.....Unknown Rest in Peace our little sweet friends that have crossed over the "Rainbow Bridge". I miss you  Boo-Boo, Lucy, BJ, and Fivel
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Re: Petey - Complications from Torb
[Re: ozzi]
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04/28/11 01:03 AM
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Oh no  RIP little Petey! You were no doubt loved loved loved!!!
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Re: Petey - Complications from Torb
[Re: ozzi]
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04/28/11 05:49 AM
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Prayers for Mary n Petey - RIP little one
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Re: Petey - Complications from Torb
[Re: ozzi]
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04/28/11 06:27 AM
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Mary, I am so sorry to hear that your beloved little Petey crossed over the Rainbow Bridge. May you find comfort in your memories of him. Glide Free Little Petey 
Kimberley Feathers-Sweetie, Mister Peanut & Big Mack Fur-Guinan, Mr. Spock, T'Mir, Cho, Toothless, Maverick & Maharet  T'Pol, Elizabeth & Curzon  TY, TJ, Light Fury, Madison & T'Pring Forever in my heart, Gizmo, Tucker, Khayman and the rest of my babies over the
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Re: Petey - Complications from Torb
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04/28/11 07:43 AM
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Mary I am very sorry for your loss of Petey. He was a very special little guy and remember you did everythinhg you could for him. You know I am here if you need anything.
Many ((((Hugs)))
Have a Good Day Brenda & Mr. Magoo
Friendly Reminder please have an e-collar ready before you need it......
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Re: Petey - Complications from Torb
[Re: BCChins]
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04/28/11 08:02 AM
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Thank you, Pat for posting for me and thank you for the kind words to everyone. Petey was a broken glider when he came to me on April 5, 2007. He had five homes, had been physically abused and was terrifed of everything. I was still very new to gliders when I took him in, but I knew his aggressive behaviour (he gave the girl I got him from 27 stitches) was out of fear. I was so proud of him at the vets yesterday, he did not even crab. Even when I was holding him up spread eagle for an ultrasound to make sure his bladder and everything looked ok. This is part of a video memorial a friend made for me when Roo, Petey's cage mate and love of his life, passed (Nov.5, 2008, from an inoperable kidney stone. They only got just over a year together, but they loved a lifetime's worth and Roo helped Petey to become more confident.) It is only a small part of it (the original is on my old hard drive, which I need to get everything off.) But Petey is in a few pics. The only peace I have is they are reunited again. I will be having a full necropsy done. I want to know (if possible) what happened. I know it is possible he had a reaction to the torb. I just know within a minute of him taking it, things were not right, and got worse as time went on. Pat is right....love your babies, you just never know. I was telling a friend yesterday when I brought Petey into my family, I made him a promise this would be his last home, that I would never rehome him and he would die here. Little did I know it would be last night. I fly you my little Petey Pooper.....you stole mommies heart from the second I met you and you took a huge piece with you. Be good, kiss Roo for me and I will see you again one day. You will never hurt or fear again my sweet angel. Btw, my avatar pic is Petey. He won pic of the week with that pic...I named it 'Bless Me', as it looks like he is praying. This is how I will always remember him. http://www.dropshots.com/pappy1264#date/2008-11-13/17:03:02
Last edited by pappy1264; 04/28/11 08:04 AM.
Timmy, Gidget(RIP), Bandit, Petey(RIP), Phoebe, Jake (RIP) Piper(RIP), Pru(RIP), Paige, Cole, Molly(RIP), Oliver, Wyatt, Roo(RIP), Romeo, Pennie, Mandy(RIP), Madison, Garth, Kikipoo, Stasia, Bella, Petunia(RIP), Helen, Sydney, Kizzy and Sweet Pea's mom, Mary
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Re: Petey - Complications from Torb
[Re: ozzi]
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04/28/11 08:14 AM
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Mary, I am so very sorry to hear about Petey. He was very lucky to have had you in his life to show him what it ment to be loved and cherished.
Chris Illusion, Malcom, Isabell, Annabelle, Zach, Isis, Aly & Indy AND Miss Emmy & Miss Chloe kitties  My Angels: You are always in my heart. You've flown to the rainbow and wait there for me Someday I will join you together to be
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Re: Petey - Complications from Torb
[Re: ozzi]
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04/28/11 08:20 AM
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No!!!  I am so sorry to hear this! Mary, my heart goes out to you! Glide free, sweet, precious Petey  over the Rainbow Bridge. You will always be remembered, loved and very missed.
Connie 812-890-9734, 24/7 Emergencies/Joey issues SmallWorldSuggies"The greater the challenge, the sweeter the reward" "Glide free  Silly "Ozball" Ozzie. You left us 11/21/12..way too soon. You're forever loved, remembered, missed."
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Re: Petey - Complications from Torb
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04/28/11 08:34 AM
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As Ozzi said, it's so hard being so far away and not able to reach out and hold you tight Mary. My heart is breaking for you. My prayers are there with you now and always.
Glide Free Precious Baby, you will always be in our hearts.
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Re: Petey - Complications from Torb
[Re: ozzi]
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04/28/11 08:48 AM
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So sorry for your loss Mary. Godspeed little Petey. Glide free
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Re: Petey - Complications from Torb
[Re: ozzi]
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04/28/11 09:38 AM
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Mary, I am so sorry to hear of your loss. Glide Free little Petey 
Slave to: 2 suggies~Diamond & Jewels (oop 9/27/10) 1 Miniature Pinscher~Minmin
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Re: Petey - Complications from Torb
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04/28/11 10:57 AM
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Thank you to everyone. What I am about to write is killing me to say. I had to take Petey yesterday to my regular dog vet. He has seen gliders before, including mine. My reg. glider vet was out for personal reasons until Saturday. I had called there first. When I went to the vet, I told him Petey had had torb. I have heard the phrase 'make sure to get torb for pain' so many times. I had always thought Torb, Butorphanol and Buprenex were all the same drug, I had never questioned it. All these years. So, I told him 'yup, Petey had had torb.' He didn't, it was Buprenex, which is a completely different drug, less sedating. That being said, Torb is a drug used with gliders....but in some cases it can cause a deadly drop in blood pressure and this is most likely what caused Petey to pass, based on how it happened. Dosage for torb was correct, but he had never had it, I was mistaken. He had a reaction to it. Saddest part of it, is there is a drug that counteracts the torb and supportive care is administered as well (fluids, even meds to help blood pressure increase, although usually the counteractive drug is all that is needed with fluids). I saw within a minute Petey was reacting 'different' but I put it off to him just feeling odd, maybe hallucinating a little, which can happen on any of these meds. But he had ever reacted that way, and certainly not that fast. The vets was open for one more hour when I gave him that drug. I didn't know he was having a bad reaction....I thought he had had it three other times. I messed up and my actions in the very least contributed to his passing. I could have had no way of knowing he would have a reaction (even if he had had torb before....anyone can suddenly have a reaction), but if I had only called and said 'something is wrong'....I doubted myself and it cost Petey his life. It kills me to say it, but I have to let people know. I have so many times heard the drug 'torb' suggested, but I have learned it can be a very lethal drug in some cases, sadly in Petey's. Buprenex is a different drug. I wish had just called back to my reg. vets first and asked what they gave him in the passed. He would be here now. I don't know how I will ever forgive myself. I thougth I 'knew' what I was doing. I didn't. Petey trusted me with his life. My vet trusted what I was saying (and he had no reason to question it, as it is a drug normally used on gliders, but it had not been used on Petey.) I am writing this as a word of caution. If you ever give torb to your glider, and you see a reaction that you question, even if you have used it before...call your vet. I could have possibly saved his life if I had done that....if I had gotten the counteractive drug in time. Please know your gliders, love your gliders and triple check everything. I don't want Petey's death to be in vain. Petey I am sorry beyond any words I could ever say.
Timmy, Gidget(RIP), Bandit, Petey(RIP), Phoebe, Jake (RIP) Piper(RIP), Pru(RIP), Paige, Cole, Molly(RIP), Oliver, Wyatt, Roo(RIP), Romeo, Pennie, Mandy(RIP), Madison, Garth, Kikipoo, Stasia, Bella, Petunia(RIP), Helen, Sydney, Kizzy and Sweet Pea's mom, Mary
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Re: Petey - Complications from Torb
[Re: ozzi]
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04/28/11 11:43 AM
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I am so sorry or your loss, please try not to blame yourself. You gave Petey so much love, and you saved him from a horrible life.
~Michelle~ wife, mom to 3 teens and 1 adult, and slave to my 8 gliders Skeeter, Luna, Rocky, Patches, Sweetie, Big Sissy, Little Buddha, and Nikko
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Re: Petey - Complications from Torb
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04/28/11 01:27 PM
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Mary, Petey's death will not be in vain. I will be on the alert in the future, for such a reaction and will, in fact, ask my vet for something besides Torb. I wasn't aware of the risks with Torb, until now.
Connie 812-890-9734, 24/7 Emergencies/Joey issues SmallWorldSuggies"The greater the challenge, the sweeter the reward" "Glide free  Silly "Ozball" Ozzie. You left us 11/21/12..way too soon. You're forever loved, remembered, missed."
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Re: Petey - Complications from Torb
[Re: ozzi]
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04/28/11 02:22 PM
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I am so sorry to hear of Petey's passing. He sounded like a really great little guy. At least he was able to know love before he moved on. The information you posted is infinitely valuable, I will make sure I request something other than Torb, should a vet ever suggest it for one of my gliders. Thank you so much for sharing your story and for saving Petey from a much crueler fate.
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Re: Petey - Complications from Torb
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04/28/11 02:28 PM
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mary please dont beat yourself up over this. sounds like you gave little petey a very loving life and he is now in gliderheaven looking down on you and telling you he is happy and at peace with his love. thank you for letting us know abt. this torb and the reaction it can cause. you have probally saved many gliders in the future. my heart goes out to you and charlie. love, nancy in detroit
regards, nancy in roseville (formerly in detroit)
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Re: Petey - Complications from Torb
[Re: ozzi]
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04/28/11 08:52 PM
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I am soooo sorry for your loss. Petey is now in God's hands loving him and watching over you. I believe someday we will all be reuinited with our beloved pets in heaven to spend eternity together!!!
Connie: soon to be wife to Harold, mom to 3 children, 2 precious kitties, and my treasured gliders.
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Re: Petey - Complications from Torb
[Re: ozzi]
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04/28/11 08:53 PM
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I am so very sorry for your loss, Mary.  I know it's easier said than done, but please don't blame yourself. I KNOW in my heart that Petey doesn't blame you and has nothing but love and wonderful memories of his life with you. You did think you knew what you were doing, I'm sure any one of us would have done the same thing.  Thank you for the caution and know that you and Petey will be saving others the same heartache because I am sure that every single person reading this will now question their assumptions about the pain meds given to their own gliders. 
Brenda 970-616-2872
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Re: Petey - Complications from Torb
[Re: ozzi]
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04/29/11 04:56 AM
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I am so very sorry for your loss, Mary. 
Casper & Liezl  Gizzy, Boesman, Muchu, Kiamon, Sky & Boog  A glider's eyes have the power to speak a great language RIP Sugar 2009 & Kaida 2013
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