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Re: Yet another Platinum Post [Re: Bourbon] #1229515
02/16/12 08:26 PM
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I was wondering why some platinums were lighter than others... some Ive seen are almost as dark as regular grays. If you put a plat to a plat does it produce a lighter plat?

Re: Yet another Platinum Post [Re: Bourbon] #1229549
02/16/12 10:36 PM
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I don't know of anyone who has paired Platinum and Platinum. I would be curious to see the result of such a pairing though!

As for coloring, I'm not sure, to be honest. I'm sure there's something at play there genetics-wise, but it's unknown at this time. Maybe some day I'll play around on TPG Database and see if there is anything in the lineages that might shine some light on it.


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Re: Yet another Platinum Post [Re: GliderNursery] #1231076
02/22/12 04:28 AM
02/22/12 04:28 AM
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I am going to chime in....

Bourbon:

As to the glider that Mike Sandridge had... it was Not a Platinum. The glider's name was Shadow... and he was a Beautiful Plat colored Mosaic with lots of white. He was purchased from Helen Moreno/Priscilla Price. He never reproduced because he came from the sterile line. He appeared to be fully packaged... however he later proved to be Sterile.

And the male Bourbon had... it is unknown who was the breeder. Because that male was unable to reproduce there is the possibility that he too may have been from the mosaic sterile line also. Because I saw that glider... I would not define his coloration as a Platinum. Rather a min marked mosaic since he had a silver tail.

Re: Yet another Platinum Post [Re: Bourbon] #1231100
02/22/12 09:27 AM
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I have a migraine now. UGH! LOL


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Re: Yet another Platinum Post [Re: Bourbon] #1231119
02/22/12 10:19 AM
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There are two lines of Platinum. Haley line comes from Sheila Willson and those gliders tend to be darker. I have a Platinum male from this line.

I also have a Platinum female from the Silverbelle line that is much lighter. Susan Schoeffler is the breeder of the Silverbelle Platinums.

Not really recommended for anyone to bred rare color to same rare color. Some have, but we don't know what the results can be. One noted vet once pointed out that by breeding color to color, can bring out genetic defects that are unwanted. Genetic defects can rear their ugly head up to 3 and 4 generations out from the original breeding. Why risk it?

Now all true Platinums (regardless if they come from the Haley line or the Silverbelle line), will be born almost white, but with a reddish\brown stripe on the head. They do have head stripes.



This is my Haley Platinum Male.



This is my Silverbelle female. She is much lighter then the male:



Sorry. At this time, I am not sure if I have a true Platinum Mosaic. I may, but I have been told that I have to wait and see if he produces a Platinum of any kind first before I can call him that.

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Re: Yet another Platinum Post [Re: Judie] #1231168
02/22/12 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted By: Judie
I am going to chime in....

Bourbon:

As to the glider that Mike Sandridge had... it was Not a Platinum. The glider's name was Shadow... and he was a Beautiful Plat colored Mosaic with lots of white. He was purchased from Helen Moreno/Priscilla Price. He never reproduced because he came from the sterile line. He appeared to be fully packaged... however he later proved to be Sterile.

And the male Bourbon had... it is unknown who was the breeder. Because that male was unable to reproduce there is the possibility that he too may have been from the mosaic sterile line also. Because I saw that glider... I would not define his coloration as a Platinum. Rather a min marked mosaic since he had a silver tail.


What does it mean if a glider comes from a sterile line? If the line is sterile, how did any of them reproduce in the first place? :dizzy:


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Re: Yet another Platinum Post [Re: Bourbon] #1231173
02/22/12 01:15 PM
02/22/12 01:15 PM
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Amy,

Sterile line gliders are able to reproduce because the sterility is only passed onto the males (the males are most often born with undeveloped or under developed testicles), females from sterile lines are able to successfully breed but it runs the risk of having males born who will not be able to breed.

Re: Yet another Platinum Post [Re: Bourbon] #1233055
02/27/12 03:09 AM
02/27/12 03:09 AM
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now the sterile lines have little to no gonads.. but the glider I had many many years ago Judie... did produce joeys, they just didn't survive as they were always rejected.. so is it still possible for a sterile glider to actually produce? and can they be saved by hand feeding as we had done to the one joey? was mike able to save any of his?

Re: Yet another Platinum Post [Re: Bourbon] #1233089
02/27/12 08:50 AM
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If the male was truly sterile, then he wouldn't have been able to produce joeys at all.


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