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Re: Patagium Self-Mutilation (Pix attached) [Re: ] #158919
10/18/06 09:47 AM
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I am glad it is healing already! I hope everything continues to progress Suz!


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Re: Patagium Self-Mutilation (Pix attached) [Re: pappy1264] #159245
10/18/06 09:20 PM
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Pappy, noises don't normally accompany flossing. Keep a very close eye on him for sm, and have an ecollar handy just in case. If it turns into a crab/hiss with a note of pain in it, get a collar on, and get him to the vet ASAP. Not sure if there's an issue, but if it's getting there, you want to be prepared before he damages himself.


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Re: Patagium Self-Mutilation (Pix attached) [Re: Xfilefan] #159378
10/19/06 06:48 AM
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Update on Mareki:
This morning, sometime after 4:30, she managed to get her e-collar soaking wet (I assume via the help of the water bottle) and got it off again. I discovered this at about 5:30. Within the time that she got the collar off and I discovered it, she managed to attack herself again and removed part of the crystalized, healed tissue at the wound margin cry Needless to say, I made another e-collar and got it on her right away. She is now back in the collar and NOT happy with me tant That's okay, I'm not happy with her either right now. This just goes to show how quickly these little ones can damage themselves if not in an e-collar... shakehead It also goes to show that no matter how diligently we check on them every hour around the clock, they can still manage to trick us and get out of their collar in the interim...


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Re: Patagium Self-Mutilation (Pix attached) [Re: sugarglidersuz] #159384
10/19/06 07:54 AM
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Oh no!! the little rascal frown i am keeping you and Mareki in my thoughts, i hope she gets to feelin a bit better soon and stops hurting herself the poor lil angel!

hug2 ' s to you and her..

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Re: Patagium Self-Mutilation (Pix attached) [Re: sugarglidersuz] #159387
10/19/06 08:05 AM
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Oh ((((((Suz)))))
I am so sorry. I know how hard it is to care for them in a e-collar, I wish I lived closer so I could help you with her. You are in my thoughts and prayers as well as the gliders.
Angie

Re: Patagium Self-Mutilation (Pix attached) [Re: ] #159434
10/19/06 10:39 AM
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I can't even imagine how hard it would be to keep a glider in an ecollar. I pray it never happens to me. Suz, you and Mareki are always in my thoughts and prayers. hug2

Re: Patagium Self-Mutilation (Pix attached) [Re: ] #159556
10/19/06 02:29 PM
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Aw Suz! Poor Mareki, I was praying she would let it alone... Huge hugs headed your way!

Re: Patagium Self-Mutilation (Pix attached) [Re: BeckiT] #159663
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Hugs and prayers to you and Mareki Suz....I feel badly that you have to be under such stress, as well as Mareki. Hopefully the battle will be won, and she will get the idea that the collar is to help her.

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~HUGS~ that poor baby! Im sending prayers and get well wishes your way



and for the question about saving the extra metacam (sorry this is a bit offtopic).....being a trained vet tech-i dont recommend giving any medicines without prior approval from a veterinarian. If you want to save after a previous vet visit then make sure you keep and eye on the expiration date but DONOT give any medications without being prescribed.Giving wrong doses and meds without really being needed could be harmful.If you take your furrbutt to the vet and the vet says yeah they need some of theat then you could say oh yeah i have whatever at home just make sure the vet knows what exactly you have casue even the same meds could have diffrent srtengths and you wouldnot want to over dose your little ones.

Re: Patagium Self-Mutilation (Pix attached) [Re: ] #159942
10/20/06 06:28 AM
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I have never given meds without vet approval. I only save the meds that she tells me it is okay to do so with. Because Mareki had been overgrooming the area, the vet had told me to give MetaCam as needed if the overgrooming got worse and she told me the dosage to use.
I agree that using meds without vet approval and dosage is not advisable.

Mareki did not get her e-collar off in the last 24 hours. I went ahead and reapplied it with fresh duct tape this morning just to be on the safe side. Right now she is snoozing peacefully in her pouch on my lap.
Irrigating the wound and applying SSD ointment seems to be helping quite a bit. She actually seems to like the irrigation process (silly glider). It must feel soothing to her.


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Re: Patagium Self-Mutilation (Pix attached) [Re: sugarglidersuz] #159979
10/20/06 09:48 AM
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irrigated a healing wound like that is soothing, it helps relieve some of the itchiness that comes with the healing wink I had a horrible cut across my ankle last summer from falling over a laundry basket. Didn't realize it had even cut me until my hubby asked which kid spilled juice (wasn't juice, was blood, the cut required stitches and glue!) It itched horribly while it was healing, and it's really hard not to itch it! The irrigation helps soothe the itchy and irritation for a little bit at least and doesn't come with the chance of reopening the healed areas.

Re: Patagium Self-Mutilation (Pix attached) [Re: sugarglidersuz] #160127
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Oh Suz! I knew you had the vet approval Just someone had asked after on of your posts asking about saving the metacam after his boy got neutered in case he ever needed it. Sorry about the confussion! smile

Update: Patagium Self-Mutilation (Pix attached) [Re: ] #163172
10/27/06 08:33 AM
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It's been a few days since I posted about Mareki, so I thought I'd give everyone an update on her condition. She has gotten used to the e-collar and doesn't fight it anymore. Her wound is healing nicely. When I brought her to the vets for follow-up, she recommended that I clean the fur around the wound with a flea comb. The store was out of them, so I bought a nit comb instead. It has worked quite well for cleaning her fur. Not only around the wound site, but also all over since with the e-collar on she can't really groom herself.
This morning, when I was combing her, I noticed that her pouch was black and icky inside... Apparently, she got a piece of feces stuck in there and was unable to get it out. I cleaned it with a wet wipe and q-tips and then applied SSD ointment to it to hopefully prevent an infection from developing.
Having a glider in an e-collar long-term is definitely a learning experience for me. I have always taken their grooming practices for granted and never thought about what would happen if they couldn't do it for themselves... It's been a wake-up call, that's for sure.
Next week, when Mareki has her next vet appointment, if the wound is still not completely healed, the vet is going to debride the lumpy edges and suture them so that she is not left with a huge, lumpy scar. That will be good because I am afraid that a lumpy scar will only lead to further mutilation in the long run.
In spite of being in the e-collar, Mareki has gained weight - nothing stops her from getting to her food roflmao When I first brought her in to the vet for this wound, she was 170 grams. I weighed her on Tuesday of this week and she's up to 176 grams. I am certain this is because with the e-collar, she is not as active as normal. Any ideas about how to encourage her to exercise in spite of the collar?
I guess that's about it for now... laugh


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Re: Update: Patagium Self-Mutilation (Pix attached) [Re: sugarglidersuz] #163178
10/27/06 08:52 AM
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So glad everything is slowly working out! Still keeping her and you in my thoughts and prayers.


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Re: Patagium Self-Mutilation (Pix attached) [Re: sugarglidersuz] #163188
10/27/06 09:08 AM
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For those interested, I started a thread in Special Needs about Gliders in e-collars for long term care. In it, I go over some of the details of the things I have learned while taking care of Mareki...


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Re: Patagium Self-Mutilation (Pix attached) [Re: sugarglidersuz] #163234
10/27/06 11:14 AM
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Glad to hear she's getting better Suz, I'm sure this is a long hard road for both of you! Continued prayers for a full recovery smile

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So glad she is improving.

I have found that an eyelash comb and an eyebrow brush are great for grooming suggies. They have nice handles that make them easy to manuever.

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Re: Patagium Self-Mutilation (Pix attached) [Re: ] #163803
10/28/06 07:46 PM
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Wow, Suz! Big hug2 and prayers being sent your way. You deserve a good night's sleep, worry free. heart Is she able to run around at all, like during tent time with you? I know exercise is important to help with weight management. Can her food portion be decreased a teeny bit? Or is it not that big a deal that she's a little, uhm, fluffy, right now while she's healing? dunno


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Re: Patagium Self-Mutilation (Pix attached) [Re: KattyM] #163842
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Last night I did give her one hour of highly supervised, collar-free exercise time. Mainly she was in her wheel running like she had no tomorrow. When she would stop, she'd move towards her patagium, I'd gently nudge her and she'd start running again. It did seem that she enjoyed it. We'll do this 4-5 times per week until she can be without the collar. Hopefully this will help with her weight a little bit... dunno


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