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Re: Wanna hear about Pricilla's Diet [Re: ] #203894
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Is it just me or so we all sneak on here while we are at work, LOL.

This post is really getting good. I will post some pic tommorow of what my mix looks like when getting fed to my gliders. It will give you an idea of the consistency and what not.

Will that help any of you???


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Re: Wanna hear about Pricilla's Diet [Re: agilitygliders] #203911
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Does anyone know what the Ca:P ratio is for this diet? I thought I saw on this forum in the last month or so that it was high Ca to P - close to 5:1 before the addition of the mealies. However, I'm not 100% sure that is what I had read and now I can't find the post that had it...

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Billy you know we like pictures!!


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Re: Wanna hear about Pricilla's Diet [Re: BCChins] #204154
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I will get pictures this afternoon.

Also the vitamins ratio is 8-1. 8calcium to 1 phosphorus.


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Re: Wanna hear about Pricilla's Diet [Re: agilitygliders] #204229
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I thought the Ca:P ratio was suppose to be kept at 2:1 no matter what diet. If it's not the right ratio then the nutrients can't be absorbed properly..... Somebody explain it to me, bc I'm really not sure on this area, that's just what I'm remembering

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First, diets and nutrition are not an exact science though it seems some glider owners on this board try to make it out to be. Humans, cats, dogs, horses, etc all have been studied much longer than sugar gliders have, but no one knows the exact amounts of each nutrient each type of animal needs at all times. Wouldn't life be SO much easier for us pet owners if we did? Plus the amounts change. Usually a pregnant, growing, old, or sick animal needs different levels of nutrients than a non-pregnant healthy animal in its prime. So typically when a amount or ratio is given, such as 2:1 - this is a rough estimate, a guideline. You don't want to inver the amount and give double the phos than the Ca and you don't want to completely take the P out of the diet either. So the diet should be kept around 2:1 on average. Variances day to day are not going to be a big issue, also w/ an animal who needs more Ca, a bit extra won't be as bit of an issue as not enough of it, just as long as you don't overdose it.

Besides, Billy was saying the vitamin ratio was 8:1, but look at the other foods fed - especially the protein sources. They are inverted with a higher phos level so the vitamins & added calcium in the diet - via OJ & yogurt are needed to offset these values. Meal worms themselves are 1:25 I believe with P being much higher than Ca. Thus the added calcium to offset.

Plus, unless you analyze that specific peice of fruit or that specific insect, there is no way to know for certain exactly what ratios your glider is getting. The ratios and nutrients that are given on charts and such are just averages of the food. At any given point there will be variance and sometimes those variances can be huge. The living environment of the food can have a HUGE determining factor on its final nutrient levels. So does its storage & handling. Even my horse's hay - even though it comes from the same exact field every year has different values when I get it analyzed from year to year due to difference in weather and fertalizer used. Freeze your food? Cook any foods? Have any foods that come in contact with Sunlight? These all effect the nutrient levels as well. We are just fooling ourselves if we believe we are getting our gliders diet at a 2:1 ratio everyday, no matter what proven diet we are feeding. The best thing we can do is give a varied diet that is at least close, which is what any of the proven diets are.

Re: Wanna hear about Pricilla's Diet [Re: ] #204265
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Thank you Cosmo for explaining what I di not know how to say.


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Re: Wanna hear about Pricilla's Diet [Re: myangelbear77] #204268
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Hi JazzyJ, could I also please have a copy of the new diet sheet? It seems I have the old one as well. My email is: valgal84@gmail.com

Thanks so much! grin

I can't wait for pics Billy! grin

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Me too me too, purdy please! mysugarmonstersinc@yahoo.com

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Thanks for explaining that!

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Re: Wanna hear about Pricilla's Diet [Re: ] #204559
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I hope I answered the Ca:P ratio the way you wanted it to be?? Not sure.

Every glider needs a varied diet and if we stick to the same foods that are 2:1 you are extremely limited and like cosmo said you would have to be a complete scientist and test every piece of food before serving it. This impractical and for the same reasons mentioned above we have to try to offer the most varied diet possible to make sure our gliders get the kind of nutritional enrichment that they crave.


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still waiting for pics billy

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Yup, exactly what I was looking for - Thanks!

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did you smoothie your fruits and veggies?

Re: Wanna hear about Pricilla's Diet [Re: ] #204808
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Re: Wanna hear about Pricilla's Diet [Re: agilitygliders] #204815
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ok, that's why it's darker than mine usually is.

I think I'm going to try to smoothie half the fruits and veggies, then leave some chunks so they can pick it up and carry them around.

Thanks for the pics!

Re: Wanna hear about Pricilla's Diet [Re: ] #204819
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Sure.

As you can see I smoothie it pretty chunky but as much as possible to avoid food all over my walls, LOL.


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Well, I just wanted to report in - today is day 5 on Priscilla's diet. Both cages have adored it & completely cleaned it up every night. Day 1 we went with the egg mix, day 2 plain, day 3 chicken mix, day 4 plain. Tonight we're having plain mix with a side of mealies. We're off to a good start and I'm excited to see how things progress!

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Great to hear Gina!!!


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We have the same result with every combo we put down (except the babies didn't enjoy the tofu)......we changed the fruit combo and that seemed to help, but given our options, I think we will avoid the tofu in the future....anyone with similar experience?

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I have to say that since I have been feeding this diet my gliders seem to be much more "satisfied". I have several babies that work with me and I used to get attacked for my morning yogurt and my turkey sandwich...however since they have been eating this I do not get asked to share. And they seem to be more playful and so happy. Glad to hear it is going good for you as well!


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Re: Wanna hear about Pricilla's Diet [Re: myangelbear77] #205730
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