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Re: History of a Self Mutilator [Re: Xfilefan] #304551
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I've wondered about nerve damage, too... plus about the scar tissue. Would the scar tissue aggravate her to pick at the "foreign object" like they'll do with sutures and stuff dunno but I have wondered... worried And if that's the case, is there really anything that can be done about it, except to use some sort of sedative? dunno So many unknowns right now... I guess I'll just keep taking it one day at a time...


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Re: History of a Self Mutilator [Re: sugarglidersuz] #304553
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She had that in mind with the meds she was talking about-I think she was thinking along the lines of birds that just can't stop pulling all their feathers out and such? -I have NO experience with birds, but I have heard of that happening. As well as nerve or other physical damage-she's thinking along psychological lines also, and stress. I do hope that between them she and your vet can come up with a plan.


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Re: History of a Self Mutilator [Re: Xfilefan] #305345
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Suz...how is Mareki today? worried hug2


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Re: History of a Self Mutilator [Re: Xfilefan] #305360
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Bless her little heart, she was trying to run in her wheel last night heart But she's so chubby that she could only sort of amble/shuffle along shakehead The wound is looking good though - no infection and no further damage thumb The slight swelling that was present when I brought her to Dr. Meyer on Friday is now completely gone!

I'll be calling Dr. Meyer in just a bit... I'll post another update after we talk...


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Re: History of a Self Mutilator [Re: sugarglidersuz] #305363
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Suz, even with her face so swollen her eye was gunky, Lyah (and she is a really FLUFFY girl, too) would also amble along at her walk in her wheel, lol. step-step-step-step (pause) step-step-step-step (pause) crazy That's a good sign she's willing to exercise-and even fluffy will help keep their little hearts in shape, circulation going (which helps with healing), and muscles in shape, etc. I'm glad Mareki is getting her exercise-thank you for the update (I'm worried for your girl). hug2

Oh-and when I get home I have a pic of a prototype "collar" that may come in useful even at her weight should one be necessary-don't let me forget!


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Re: History of a Self Mutilator [Re: Xfilefan] #306134
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Oh suz-

I am SO worried about little Mareki....I hope the exercise continues. It's a good sign that she wants to get better. thumb

Give her a kiss, a snuggle and a mealie from all of us here in my zoo. We are ALL thinking of her and sending prayers that she will recover soon and without relapse. hug2

We all love and believe in you! If anyone can pull her through, it's you, hon.

Keep us updated. You all are never out of our thoughts... mlove

Re: History of a Self Mutilator [Re: Gliderbuff] #306771
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Mareki had a fairly good day today although her poor tail is even patchier - so she's been overgrooming it even more shakehead
The wound on her chest is looking much better to my inexpert eye. We'll see what Dr. Meyer has to say when I bring her in for her follow-up tomorrow at noon worried I'm really hoping that she'll be willing to test for thyroid dysfunction, but don't have any documented cases in gliders to let her know about yet dunno


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Re: History of a Self Mutilator [Re: sugarglidersuz] #307237
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Let us know when you get back how everything went. I hope the best for Mareki. Poor baby suggie. hug2 I'm prayin for y'all.

Re: History of a Self Mutilator [Re: ] #307254
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Just back from Dr. Meyer's office. I have Mareki scheduled for a biopsy, bloodwork and x-rays on June 20th. Dr. Meyer said that even if the outside of the wound is healed by then, she will still be able to get a sample for the biopsy. I can't do it next week because I'll be out of town, so that's why the delay on getting it done. In the meantime, I'm continuing with the antibiotic treatment as prescribed. Her wound still looks about the same as it did on Friday, according to Dr. Meyer cry Also, Mareki has somehow managed to gain another 4 grams blush and is up to 197 grams now shakehead
As for the possibility of hypothyroidism, unfortunately, there are no values listed for what normal thyroid function panels would be for a sugar glider in the Carpenter's veterinary manual (which is more detailed than Merck's according to Dr. Meyer)... So there's no point in running tests for those values since we have no way of knowing if the results are normal or not dunno For now, Dr. Meyer wants to try the other tests listed above. If nothing comes from them, then she's willing to try treatment for the thyroid...
So, for now, we're in a holding pattern. I'll be picking up Darwin from Karen on Saturday and will start introductions right away (I know he's healthy since he's been in Karen's care for quite a while now, so I don't have to worry about a quarantine period.)
Thanks again to everyone for your prayers and support.
hug2 hug2 hug2


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Re: History of a Self Mutilator [Re: sugarglidersuz] #307262
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hug2 My thoughts are with you hoping for a good outcome for Mareki

Re: History of a Self Mutilator [Re: ] #307322
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Does the doc just need something to test against for the thyroid? I've got 3 pretty normal sized gliders that they're welcome to use if they need to check/if they can check. I don't mind a little drive to help out if I can. dunno

I hope they find SOME way to help little Mareki out. Mutilation has to be so hard to deal with. shakehead I'm hoping for y'all. hug2

Re: History of a Self Mutilator [Re: ] #307370
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Thanks for the offer Amanda, but I have 9 other gliders that are in peak health so if she wanted to do a blood panel on them for comparison, it would be possible. However, gliders usually need to be anesthetized for blood draws, so there would be added risks in testing healthy gliders for "normal" values as a comparison. So, for now, we're going to try other avenues of treatment first...
I really do appreciate your offer though hug2 hug2 hug2


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Re: History of a Self Mutilator [Re: sugarglidersuz] #307396
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I figured there was some odd risk involved, or you would have thought of that yourself thumb Just wanted to make sure JUST incase hug2 Good luck girlie.

Re: History of a Self Mutilator [Re: ] #307551
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Suz, is anyone you know having a male neutered any time soon? Since they would already be under ansesthezia maybe a blood draw could be done while they were already under?

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Thank you Suz for sharing all this with us. I know it must be difficult for you to see your baby going though all this...but as a "newbie" it is very educational.

I hope they can find a way to help her live a long and happy life.


Re: History of a Self Mutilator [Re: ] #308034
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Originally Posted By: TracyLynn
Suz, is anyone you know having a male neutered any time soon? Since they would already be under ansesthezia maybe a blood draw could be done while they were already under?
Tracy, that's an excellent idea & one I hadn't even thought of. I'm actually going to be getting both of my intact males neutered this summer. I'll ask Dr. Meyer about the possibility of this thumb Thanks for the suggestion!!!!
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Thank you Suz for sharing all this with us. I know it must be difficult for you to see your baby going though all this...but as a "newbie" it is very educational.

I hope they can find a way to help her live a long and happy life.
You're right, it is very difficult for me right now. For obvious reasons, but also because it means that I have to humble myself and expose all the "dirty, little secrets" about Mareki's past cry However, if Mareki's history and experience can help even one other glider and its owner, then it's worth the exposure. Plus, it definitely helps me to get feedback from other owners about their experiences and suggestions on how to proceed. So, it's a win-win situation in that regard. hug2


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Re: History of a Self Mutilator [Re: sugarglidersuz] #309775
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How is little Marecki? I am worried, and praying daily for her health and recovery... frown

I hope you are handling the toll well and getting some rest in spite of the requirements this puts on you both. hug2

Keep us updated..


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Re: History of a Self Mutilator [Re: Gliderbuff] #309835
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Mareki is still doing okay. She's still overgrooming her tail shakehead but is leaving the chest wound alone (except for regular cleaning) thus far. The antibiotic is preventing infection and that's a big PLUS!

I'm going to be leaving for Michigan in just a while here so I can go to sugeebaby's to pick up Darwin (neutered, 7 year old male) to try to introduce to her. Hopefully she won't be able to resist his charms laugh Then I'll be heading on to Holland, MI to my parents' home to get ready for their 50th Anniversary celebration. So... I won't be online much during the next 10 days (internet access is spotty, at best, at my parents'). I'll update as I'm able.

Thanks for keeping us in your prayers - it really means a lot to me hug2


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