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Re: Poor Heidi [Re: ] #329737
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Aw sweetie. I am so sorry that you are going through this. Please keep us updated. hug2

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I have been praying everyday for her and will continue too.
I feel a little better knowing there is a little hope left.

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yes don't give up on her just yet smile i know youll do whats right for her, but there is some hope still. ill be thinking of her and hopeing for the best

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Thank you all for your support; makes me want to cry cry
I'll keep everyone updated

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How old is she? My boy went through a phase of not eating when I first got him (he was young) I force fed him and gave him subQ fluids to get him through, because they couldn't find anything wrong. It lasted for 2 weeks or so, I was terrified, but then he, just as suddenly, decided he was hungry and has been fine ever since. If you are going to try with her, I would force feed and see if maybe she'll perk up. She might have gotten herself so weak that she isn't able to eat on her own anymore.


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Re: Poor Heidi [Re: sugarlope] #329763
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She's 7; not a youngster anymore but not considered "old" quite yet...
I'm hoping they can force food and get her going again and I will be able to keep her going.

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Re: Poor Heidi [Re: Usha77] #329784
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Little Heidi is in my thoughts. She will be fine. I just know it. laugh heart glider gangel I know she will make it, just don't give up hope! gangel glider heart laugh


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Re: Poor Heidi [Re: cArE_bEaRr] #329939
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Has the vet run any tests?? Such as a urinalysis or a fecal float or smear?? Just looking her over and pronouncing her healthy doesn't do much. They need to look for infections or some reason she is not eating. There is OBVIOUSLY something wrong, and all possibilities need to be explored. She may also need Sub-Q fluids with D5W solution if she is dehydrated and her electrolytes are off. It really doesn't sound like they are doing enough to help her!!

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hug2 hug2 hug2 hug2 i sure hope that your little girl pulls through, prayers are being sent from this way too. i totally think you need to become agressive and let them know that this is what needs to be done and that you're not going to leave till you've seen everything that can be done be done! I was totally like that when my little gizmo had to be nuetured, ofcourse it's not a life or death situation, but i made the doctor, do his research and made a list of everything that needed to be done, as well as expected, i sure hope your little one is feeling better!

Re: Poor Heidi [Re: ] #330202
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have the vet give you some baytril and flagyl which will cover a number of illnesses. 7 is not too old. try to get protein chicken turkey yogurt ground beef first and foremost with a little calcium on it it sounds like a bacteria when they are sick they need protein.

Re: Poor Heidi [Re: the gliders angel] #330224
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Has the vet gotten liquids in her or Sub Q'd her? She has to be hydrated for any kind of chance. We have gliders 8 years old that act just as young as our joeys. It's not her age. Something is going on. Does she have any other cagemates? If not, she may need a friend to help with depression since she lost her mate.

I pray she gets well and everything turns out okay.


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Re: Poor Heidi [Re: SugarBlossoms] #330235
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7 is definitely NOT old for a glider! The vet needs to give her sub-q fluids (D5W solution) and needs to check her over thoroughly for infection (parasitic or bacterial) by running Urinalysis, Fecal Float & Smear. He also should check for the possibility of Hypocalcemia... in her condition, she is too weak for a blood draw, but they may be able to take xrays without putting her under anesthetic since she's so weak. Even if nothing shows up, they should put her on a shot-gun course of a broad-spectrum antibiotic such as Baytril and on an oral calcium supplement such as Neocalglugon...
Please continue to keep us updated on her progress.
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Re: Poor Heidi [Re: sugarglidersuz] #330245
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No cage mates; she actually beats up other gliders except for her old mate.
I'm going to get some Batryl before I take her home. They were waiting until today to do the fecal test since she was so weak; they wanted to get more fluids in her first. I am going to call this morning and check to see how she did last night...

Re: Poor Heidi [Re: ] #330250
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Please keep us updated on your little one! Hope she is doing better this morning. hug2


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Re: Poor Heidi [Re: Mel2mdl] #330251
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She is still w/ us thank goodness :o)
They said they were running more tests this morning and to call back in a few hours to get a line by line update.

Re: Poor Heidi [Re: ] #330263
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I'm so glad she made it through the night! Please continue to keep us updated as you have been, I'm so worried about Heidi (and you!)

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oh i am so glad to hear that....hopefully all our good thoughts and your care (plus the vets of course!) is helping. <3

Re: Poor Heidi [Re: ] #330367
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Got an update; She is drinking carrot juice and has nibbled on some "Carnivore Care" but not many other changes.
I am going up there in an hour to spend some time w/ her and see if they think she can go home or if she needs to stay.... my tummy is upset :o( Poor little girl.... she's my baby :o( I don't want her to be sick :o(

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I'm so glad Heidi got through the night and is eating a little bit! I'm still praying for her and you too!! hug2


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Is that good progress??? I guess I fooled myself into thinking she would be much better today.... but I guess baby steps as long as she keeps making some progress right?
I'm such a worrier about everything... :o(

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Her stomach may not be able to take much food at a time after 6 days of not eating. Baby steps forward are still steps forward.

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Has the vet given you a diagnosis as to what the cause is of her not eating? Have they run tests on her yet? I'm concerned that there are no path reports on her yet. Since they have been slow with getting food/fluids into her, and now starting her on solids without determining the cause just doesn't sound right.
If they haven't run any tests, I would strongly suggest that they do so before sending her home.
Please let us know.

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She is home w/ strict directions clap Batryl every 12 hours for 10 days to clearup anything that could be there that they didn't find. Carnivore care made liquidy at least 3 times a day more if she doesn't take much at her feedings. All organic 100% carrot juice since she is drinking more of that than any other fluids and I am to contine to offer her solid food on top of that to ease her back to eating on her own. She rode home w/ me in my shirt and slept there the whole way ohwell when I got home we both took a nap on the floor by her cage LOL.
I gave her the Batryl at 4:00 so I'll be getting up at 4:00 am for another round. She is eating the carnivore care under protest ( Idon't think it tastes good) but she scarfed down 2/3 of a mealie on her own as well as a big piece of watermelon... she trotted around the room for a bit and then back to bed. That was the most I have seen in a while. I have to say it really touched my heart to see her ears a little more perky and to watch her eat again. I feel she made more progress just being back at home w/ Mommy but she needed a little help from the vet. She apparently touched the heart of the nurses there too. It's going to be a long road but I think she is gonna make it just fine. glider smile I definitley could use another nap right now but I nap between feedings and all will be fine.

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yes you deserve a nap! I AM SO HAPPY FOR YOU BOTH!!! i was so worried but now this is such good news. with her mommy to nurse her shell get better in no time!

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im so glad she is doing better what diet was she on?

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well now she is on semi liquid nasty stuff but I usually give her grapes, apples, corn, carrots, lean meat, peanuts for treats, peas, yogurt (all natural) and I'll mix in random things like a little mac n cheese if I am eating it or a piece of a chip here or there... small things that I can monitor and I don't let others feed her to make sure peole don't sneek in stuff I don't allow. Fatty stuff.
I do admit I should mix up her routine more often than I do to keep her from being bored of her food. That is my vowe to her.

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Taylor~ I'm glad to hear that Heidi is home and is showing some slow signs of improvement. My concern would be that she is not on an approved steady diet. From what you said, it seems like she gets fruits and veggies and lean meat, but a little of this and a little of that. Is she getting vitamins? What kinds of meat does she eat? Please look at the approved diet link at the top of the page. It shows many diets to choose from. They are staple diets that have vitamins and minerals that the glider needs, along with fresh fruits, veggies and insects too. I hope she shows more improvement as the days go by!!


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Well I have tried some in the past and gotten it flung at me so I stopped doing it. BUT I am willing to try again.
I just went out yesterday and bought all the stuff again...except the wheat germ i forgot that.
I have now gotten her to eat a small amount on her own as well as what I am force feeding so we are on the right track :-)

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I'm glad you are getting something into her. Even if she isn't happy about it, at least she's taking it. I know how exhausted you must be, just know you have all kinds of moral support here! I hope she keeps getting better and better!


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