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Re: been to the vet and NEED HELP [Re: USMom] #406710
10/28/07 10:30 PM
10/28/07 10:30 PM

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How is Scruff doing today? Please update us and let us know.

Re: been to the vet and NEED HELP [Re: ] #406717
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I'm hoping for a good update, too...


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Re: been to the vet and NEED HELP [Re: Kitkatt1216] #406872
10/29/07 02:06 AM
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I spoke with her on the phone Sun morning-she said he'd improved, and I advised caution in optimism and to watch close since these little guys can do that right before becoming critical. She said he would be going back to the vet either Sunday, or Monday, and she'd update after. I hope he's doing okay. worried


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Re: been to the vet and NEED HELP [Re: USMom] #407021
10/29/07 12:11 PM
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I just went to the vet, and they say they can't to a blood chemistry panel. Scruff has lost wright, but is putting it back on and is about 3g away from his normal weight. They gave me instead: Baytril "spiked", Calcium (Neo Cal Gluc), Enulose/Lactulose, and Flagyl (because apparently the third fecal test they did on him in the last two months has come up positive.
They gave me calcium, but without the test how do they know what his calcium levels are? They say they weill probably have to sedate him to take blood from his jugular to get enough to test him. I'm very nervous about this, because I'm afraid that too much could kill him.

What do you guys think? I'm not very trusting of him, does all of this sound right, or is anything coming across kinda sketchy?

Re: been to the vet and NEED HELP [Re: ] #407024
10/29/07 12:18 PM
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I don't know about the meds, but the blood test info they gave you is correct. Jen will have more info for you on this. I think they took blood from Dex during his surgery.


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Re: been to the vet and NEED HELP [Re: ] #407196
10/29/07 03:32 PM
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they say they can't to a blood chemistry panel


why? and for what would they then draw blood? He's already had all you can do short of that.

Typically a glider needs to be sedated for a blood draw, and it comes from the vena cava-in the chest near the scent gland, not the jugular, typically. Leg (femoral artery) and tail veins are very iffy as to whether you can get enough, and usually will only work for minor issues such as calcium, blood glucose, or cbc. We got enough on Riker from the Femoral for his T4 thyroid and calcium, but it wasn't enough for a chemistry. Dr. Folland can consult on that with whatever vet.
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and Flagyl (because apparently the third fecal test they did on him in the last two months has come up positive.

positive for what?

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but without the test how do they know what his calcium levels are


it's possible they got that when they did the CBC. That is enough to test calcium levels, and may be among the numbers they gave you...it would list as CA

What did they 'spike' the Baytril with...the calcium? and did they say what the Enulose/Lactulose was for? The possible fluid? The elevated white count indicates a probable infection somewhere, and the Baytril is a good broad spectrum when you don't know what you're dealing with.

Sorry for all the questions-they're being a bit sketchy on details. The broad spectrum antibiotic addresses infection, Flagyl speaks to parasite infestation-likely a flagellate like giardia or trich, but what else are they covering with the other stuff, or are they just trying to cover bases?

It is safe to take approximately 1 percent of a glider's body weight in blood. A good vet can judge how much more they can safely take, and what can be tested for with what they get...if you're looking at specific areas, sometimes less can suffice. Again, Dr. Folland did very well with Chronos...he weighed about 122 grams when he had his blood chemistry done (down from 156).


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Re: been to the vet and NEED HELP [Re: Xfilefan] #407659
10/30/07 12:38 AM
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sorry its been taking me so long to answer- the antibiotics were spiked with pekt- i dont know what that is. the flagyl is for flagellate parasites which they told us twice, with two different stool samples, that he was cleared and didnt have them anymore. the enulose\lactulose is supposed to clear up any liquid and redirect it into his stool. but i dont know about the calcium... i checked the labs that they gave me and the CA is not filled out so i can only assume that they didnt check it yet. i dont really want to give it to him because we give him powdered calcium everyday and in all the research ive done it says that too much calcium can cause kidney problems, which can cause extreme dehydration and seizures. and they said that they can take the blood because hes still to small to sedate.

im having a really hard time with two to vets ive been working with... i DO NOT like dr. byron who everyone seems to love- they are unorganized, they leave out important directions ect. AND NO ONE WILL TALK TO ME! i had to send my boyfriend today cuz i was at work and when i called to ask questions they blew me off- 3 different times. they wont even tell me if they tested his calcium levels.
The emergency place keeps telling me that hes no longer in critical condition so its not an emergency and i should come during the day. then i try to make an appt. and they say they dont have anything til thurs. but if they cant take blood then i have to come back again- well each visit is $55 even if they dont do anything-that adds up- i feel like im throwing money at them and all they can say is sorry come back later.

and if its something with his liver (which it sounds like) than it is an emergency!!!!!

im going to call jen's vet tomorrow morning to get his opinion, maybe he can shed some more light

im so frustrated and i know that this is serious and i just want to figure it out and try to fix him!

Re: been to the vet and NEED HELP [Re: ] #407661
10/30/07 12:39 AM
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but on the bright side he has lots of energy today and is eating like a piggy =) =) =)

Re: been to the vet and NEED HELP [Re: ] #407670
10/30/07 12:51 AM
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Know that there is little he can tell you, as an owner, on the phone, due to legal restrictions. He cannot diagnose without seeing your glider.

What he CAN do, is tell you whether, based on weight, he can have enough blood drawn, suggest testing for a vet to do, and may be able to help explain what the meds might be for-let them know that the clinic you're going to won't tell you why or answer your questions. Specifics to treatment and such have to be given to a vet directly. They should also be able to tell you what the pekt is-I have no idea on that one.

Some extra calcium for a short time shouldn't hurt him, even if his levels are normal, but you wouldn't want it to continue, and I'd want to know why before giving it as well.

Here is another vet that might prove helpful-my regular one I see often. Also, if you start the conversation with them by saying that you know they can't diagnose him, and there's no actual medical advice they can give, but you were hoping they could clarify some treatments he's been given, and offer suggestions for your vets, you'll get farther. Let them know what work has been done, and be ready with the cbc numbers you do have. vets are understandably wary when an owner calls who is not their patient, and mine have been abused a couple times for not giving information they simply can't give out, as much as they want to help. I have very understanding vets for the most part, and so far they do what they can for the people I refer to them.

I know you're frustrated...hopefully we can at least get a little clarification going. hug2

Foothill Animal Clinic / Wasatch Exotic
Dr. Laurel M. Harris, DVM
2675 East Parley's Way
Salt Lake City, UT 84109
(801) 485-4736

What is your little guy's weight, btw?


Jen/Colin :bb: Commander Riker 12 16 02-10 04 12 you will be FOREVER missed :wfb: Sinbad, :wfb: Gabby, :grey: Baby, and :grey: Alley
Re: been to the vet and NEED HELP [Re: Xfilefan] #408323
10/31/07 12:32 AM
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so a little update- my vet finally called me back!!! he said that because its still not safe to sedate him yet- due to his low weight, he suggested that we just start him on medication for his liver. i hesitate just because we dont know for sure that it is his liver, but on the other hand if that is the problem i want to start him on meds asap. so im supposed to call him tomorrow and let him know

Re: been to the vet and NEED HELP [Re: ] #408354
10/31/07 01:57 AM
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Milk Thistle is an option that won't damage him if there's not an issue, but should help improve function...it's herbal. That's what Chronos took. So that's an option that won't harm him while you're waiting, if you're worried.


Jen/Colin :bb: Commander Riker 12 16 02-10 04 12 you will be FOREVER missed :wfb: Sinbad, :wfb: Gabby, :grey: Baby, and :grey: Alley
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