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Re: Please pray for Lyah-Update not good
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She didn't quite make it home. She was in the pouch with Myst, and went to the Rainbow Bridge, curled up as if asleep, about 5 minutes before I got her home. I'll update with what the outlined treatment would have been if she'd made it. She had pneumonia. And a new gelpack for the reopened abscess in her lower teeth.
Jen/Colin Commander Riker 12 16 02-10 04 12 you will be FOREVER missed Sinbad, Gabby, Baby, and Alley
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Re: Please pray for Lyah-Update not good
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Oh Lord no Jen! I'm so sorry ..so so so very sorry!!!!! OMG..I thought she would be better. .. MASSIVE HUGS Take a break to calm down a bit for the moment. She's not in pain anymore Jen. She WAITED for YOU..her mama to get her. She was with Myst too. She loves you and will always be watching you. I'm rambling..I'm sorry! Call if want, need to or whatever!!!! LOVE, HUGS and Prayers sent
Keeper of Handprints on my Heart, You left your Footprints on my soul. My precious loves that left to quickly, Peanut, Katie Isabella, Kiwi, Bonnie and Monroe.
Spread your wings and glide free of pain, Until the day I see you again.
God speed my precious angels. I love you. Mama.
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Re: Please pray for Lyah-Update not good
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Re: Please pray for Lyah-Update not good
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Re: Please pray for Lyah-Update not good
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12/10/07 11:39 PM
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OH NO JEN! Poor dear, poor you, and poor Myst as well. I am so very sorry for your loss, hun! :Hug2: :Hug2: :Hug2: :Hug2: :Hug2: :Hug2: :Hug2: :Hug2:
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Re: Please pray for Lyah-Update not good
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OH Jen, My heart breaks for you and Myst as well. I am so sorry. I wish I had something better to say. I am just so sorry.
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Re: Please pray for Lyah-Update not good
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For My Lyah... When I Get Where I'm Going (Brad Paisley with Dolly Parton) When I get where I'm going On the far side of the sky The first thing that I'm gonna do Is spread my wings and fly
I'm gonna land beside a lion And run my fingers through his mane Or I might find out what it's like To ride a drop of rain
Yeah when I get where I'm going There'll be only happy tears I will shed the pain and struggles I have carried all these years And I'll leave my heart wide open I will love and have no fear Yeah when I get where I'm going Don't cry for me down here
I'm gonna walk with my grand daddy And he'll match me step for step And I'll tell him how I missed him Every minute since he left Then I'll hug his neck
Yeah when I get where I'm going There'll be only happy tears I will shed the pain and struggles I have carried all these years And I'll leave my heart wide open I will love and have no fear Yeah when I get where I'm going Don't cry for me down here
So much pain and so much darkness In this world we stumble through All these questions I can't answer So much work to do
But when I get where I'm going And I see my Maker's face I'll stand forever in the light Of His Amazing Grace!
Yeah when I get where I'm going (when I get where I'm going) There'll be only happy tears Hallelujah I will love and have no fear When I get where I'm going Yeah when I get where I'm going...There's a clip here (almost at the bottom of the page, but it's there): Artist: Brad Paisley Song: When I get where I'm going Album: Time Well Wasted: http://musicdownloads.walmart.com/catalog/servlet/ArtistServlet?id=2933
Jen/Colin Commander Riker 12 16 02-10 04 12 you will be FOREVER missed Sinbad, Gabby, Baby, and Alley
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Re: Please pray for Lyah-Update not good
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Jen, I'm so very sorry for your loss. Lyah was always special to you in her special needs. You gave her love, patience and understanding for all her fears and pain. She is at peace now. No more seizures, no more pain, no more fear, just sweet peace.
May your heart find that soon too.
620-704-9109 Judge not until you have walked in their shoes and lived their lives. What you see online is only part of the story.
I could have missed the pain But I'd of had to miss the dance
The soul would have no rainbow if the eyes had no tears.
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Re: Please pray for Lyah-Update not good
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Oh Jen, Honey I am so sorry. My thoughts and prayers are with you and Myst.
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Re: Please pray for Lyah-Update not good
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Oh, God, Jen, I am so, so sorry. I am crying for you. I know how much it hurts, even when you know she isn't suffering at all any more. I just was able to come back and check for an update, the last time I looked, you were going to get her. Honey, she loved you, and she waited, so she could take her final journey with you and Myst, because she knows you would guide her.
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Re: Please pray for Lyah-Update not good
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Sweet Jen.... ...I am so sorry. Karin
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Re: Please pray for Lyah-Update not good
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Jen I am so sorry for your loss of Lyah. She waited till she was with her 2 best friends You and and Myst. We are all thinking of the 3 of you at this time.
Have a Good Day Brenda & Mr. Magoo
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Re: Please pray for Lyah-Update not good
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12/11/07 05:06 AM
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Re: Please pray for Lyah-Update not good
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Jen:
I am so very sorry. I was praying so hard she would make it through this. I agree that she waited to be with you. I am at least glad you got to be with her before she left and she was not alone. Godspeed sweetest little angel Lyah. Again, I am so very sorry.
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Re: Please pray for Lyah-Update not good
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12/11/07 12:55 PM
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Oh Jen, I'm so very sorry I know how much you loved her over the years you had with her. My heart cries for you
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Re: Please pray for Lyah-Update not good
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12/11/07 02:09 PM
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Jen I'm so sorry! I agree that it's as if she hung on for you and for Myst. She went in her comfort zone and allowed herself then to go at peace. YOU gave her that, and did your very best and then some for her (quite the drive in 30 mins to the vet!!). HUGS to you and Myst!!
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Re: Please pray for Lyah-Update not good
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12/11/07 04:17 PM
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You'd think by the time you sent 9 gliders to the Bridge it would get easier. It doesn't. Anyway, I promised to give 'the rest of the story'. She was to be in an incubator the next two days had she made it home, glass with a wet washcloth (and open water dish would help too) for humidity, at a temp of about 90 degrees. I bought fishtank thermometers to monitor the temp in the incubator as well. I also purchased an oil filled radiant heater (about $60 at Walmart if anyone else ever gets in this situation-it has legs and castors for stability and to keep it up off the carpet, and so you can move it easy) to keep the glider room warm enough both while she was in the incubator and when she was able to go back to her cage (see...I was hopeful). Hope may have been beside the point. I can describe what I saw when I picked her up-clues she likely had less than a 30% chance, things over the years I'd learned to look for, and while I didn't ignore them, my biggest fear was she'd die alone and the vet did absolutely everything possible for her already. She was still breathing hard and laying splayed out when I went into the incubator at the vet's to get her, head/shoulders out of the pouch opening (it was laying down in there). The breathing wasn't AS hard as it had been the night before, and instead of her nose being white/greyish-white with a blue tinge on bottom...it was faintly pink with a blue tinge. We knew she had pneumonia, but no fluid in the lungs. According to the receipt, she did receive a bronchiodilator while there-or at least it's the only med on there I'm not familiar with Dr. Harris had mentioned: Aminophyllin 25 mg/ml (no dosage and I wouldn't put that anyway). She had not been grooming. While she didn't have food or pee/poop on her, her fur was slightly greasy and unkempt looking, with a lot of cracks (she had a GORGEOUS coat, even thru all her trials). I picked up the pouch she was in, and opened the one I'd brought with Myst in it, she looked down and went right in on her own, then looked up at me. I could still see a little of her third eyelid on the left side, but not on the right...her eyes were bright but you could see in her face and how she moved so carefully and slowly how sick she still was. She not only let me pet her on the head talking to her, but for the FIRST AND LAST time in her life she not only allowed me to rub her chin, but closed her eyes as if it comforted her when I did. Myst snuggled with her, and I closed the pouch to take them home. I'd left the car running with the heat on full to keep it warm for the trip home. Paid the bill, then we left for the trip up the mountain. I stopped twice on the way home to open the pouch and check on her. The first time she looked at me. The second she was curled up asleep, but I held the pouch up to the dome light to make sure she was still breathing-she was, and it seemed a bit easier than earlier. (Didnt' know if that was a good thing or not, but we were 20 min from home at that point, and I was dripping from the heat in the car-90 degrees was the ideal though so heat stayed on). If you take this drive at the speed limit it's about a 40-50 minute trip, particularly UP the mountain, as that grade is murder and unless I'm in 4th gear all the way up usually can't make over 50/55 mph (speed limit is 65). I got home with her and jumped into action...got the new water and nestbox in the incubator-decided on that instead of a pouch-and made sure the fleece lining was in and the reptile mat heater positioned tight on the side, then went to get her out of the pouch-that had taken maybe 3 minutes. She still looked asleep. Got Myst out, then reached in to get her. She was very warm, and very limp-something was wrong. I told my son to take Myst out of the incubator and put her into the cage. She was gone. In the last 5-10 minutes she'd stopped breathing. Handling her was like she was simply asleep yet but there was no breathing, no heartbeat. Her eyes were about 1/4 of the way open. I massaged her chest a minute, but felt CPR would only prolong her suffering, and let her go. I held her against my chest and told her how much I loved her, and I was SO sorry. I tried to close her eyes, but they wouldn't. I held and pet her for about half an hour, when rigor finally started. Then made some calls, and got the box that she will be buried in after the spring thaw ready-lined with fleece and with her toys, as with all my others. Myst was in with her when she died, but I wanted to make sure she understood, and had my son get her out and show her Lyah's body (and what happened next is a first for me here)...Myst looked at her, crabbed at her, and hid. I'm not sure if she was afraid, or angry at her sister for leaving her. She is definitely upset. After getting Lyah in her box and into the freezer, I came here to update. You could tell Myst had been grooming her on the ride home-her coat looked 100 times better than it did when she left the vet's office. She'd been trying to take care of her big sister. One of the surprising things is that her ears were relatively up instead of flat on her head when she died. That is unusual. Hopefully this is everything. I'm not quite myself today, so I wouldn't be surprised if I left something (or a few somethings) out...but it will suffice. I'll attach Lyah's final pictures to this post. Later I'll make another with her story and pictures of her life, I also wanted to thank all who supported and prayed for my little girl-it means more than you know. Here are the pictures: http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd243/shadowdancersfabrics/Lyah/Lyahpostmortem1121107.jpghttp://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd243/shadowdancersfabrics/Lyah/Lyahpostmortem2121107.jpghttp://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd243/shadowdancersfabrics/Lyah/Lyahprevetincubator121007.jpghttp://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd243/shadowdancersfabrics/Lyah/Lyahprevetinincubator121007.jpghttp://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd243/shadowdancersfabrics/Lyah/Lyahscoffinpostmortem121107.jpg
Jen/Colin Commander Riker 12 16 02-10 04 12 you will be FOREVER missed Sinbad, Gabby, Baby, and Alley
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Re: Please pray for Lyah-Update not good
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Last edited by Usha77; 12/11/07 04:54 PM.
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Re: Please pray for Lyah-Update not good
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Losing our beloved babies will never get easier. It can't when you have a heart as big as yours. God knew you would be a keeper of little angels so he gave you a huge heart so you would never run out of love. Lyah is in peace now, playing happily with all of her friends and newfound glider buddies. She's in your heart always and you in hers. I believe you will see her again one day. She'll be there with open "wings" saying 'see mama, we are all here' It hurts bad losing a precious baby as you have many times over. There is a reason some are chosen for this and others not. It certainly doesn't feel as if we are loved when these things happen and we sure wish we weren't the "chosen" ones to go through it. We have many roads from which to choose from Jen. God lays out the roads, it's up to us to choose the path. He is there to help pick us up when we fall or crash. Look to heaven, Lyah is there now with all of the others. You're path leads to her..you are trully the Gliders' Angel. If not for you, Lyah, Chronos and the others would never had known love or had a chance at life. If not for you Jen..MANY gliders wouldn't have survived at all. It's your love, compassion and determination that keeps many of us going when our gliders become ill. To your Lyah and all of your babies, you are everything and everyone to them. They will never leave you girl, you were always there for them. They loved you then and they love you now moreso.
Keeper of Handprints on my Heart, You left your Footprints on my soul. My precious loves that left to quickly, Peanut, Katie Isabella, Kiwi, Bonnie and Monroe.
Spread your wings and glide free of pain, Until the day I see you again.
God speed my precious angels. I love you. Mama.
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Re: Please pray for Lyah-Update not good
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Oh Jen. I'm so sorry That story made me cry.. my hubby Jay said "awww" when I told him. I've told him all about Lyah. for you and Myst
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