Okay well, Ashley said he is doing generally okay. He's still eating, drinking, and urinating. From what she can tell there is still tiny specks of blood but it's significantly better than yesterday. She did talk to the vet and he feels that Nicias is improving but that Ashley should just keep him updated and bring him in if anything changes.
I don't think I'm forgetting anything...

How is he tonight? How are both gliders?

Ashley was told to call if she had any problems at all. She has not called either of us. She has a final at 7:30 AM...so we are not trying to bother her while she tries to get what little rest she can due to taking care of her boy.

I am keeping everything up to date with Ivy uinder her post...so read there.

Well so far things are okay.
He goes between trying to rip his collar off and eating when he's awake and is pretty stubborn about meds but that's better than a lot of other things.

Ashley said he hasn't peed any blood since I talked to her last, and we put a nice piece of white fleece in there to help moniter that.

What we're going to do once the meds are finished with I don't know. You'd think he'd had given up on trying to take the collar off by now. And we're pretty sure that unless he keeps the collar on until he's fully healed, he will attack himself. Of course this is only our assumption but our assumption is based on his behavious so far.
Any advice for long e-collar wear would be nice.

Have you seen this 'new' style ecolar...you might want to give this one some thought. Alternative ecolar

The pictures don't work

Check out this thread for some advice from people about longer term e-collar wear...

http://www.glidercentral.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/334295/fpart/4

Thanks guys for the help and the concern, Nicias is doing better or at least seems to be doing better. Still won't be able to take that collar off of him quite yet though.
Maybe he'll change his behavior soon? Hope so. I just finished feeding him a little bit ago. He ate quite a bit of his BML mixture and nibbled/licked a piece of honeydew melon. Dani and I both have been kind of forcing him to take bits of water here and there through a syringe. (P.S. I've been giving him pedialite here and there as well as the water. Gwen said that the electrolytes would help as well as it being a fluid would keep him hydrated. We like hydration, yes!) Other than that, he does have his moments where he actually calms down when it comes to the thrashing and sleeps here and there (FINALLY!). Things are looking better and aren't as crazy.

We'll probably let him roll around in this little cat tent later tonight to see how he reacts. Poor guy is all pent up.

So Nicias is a naughty little boy.

Today around 2 PM, I had noticed that he had JUST started hissing while attempting to pee. He wasn't straining at all while peeing, and was able to pee quite a bit. Contacted the vet right away and got him in for an appointment. The vet said that it was his rectum that was bothering him, somehow; he must have bitten himself after he was brought back to us after being neutered. Which is interesting since we had him pretty well and he managed to slip from us only a couple of times.
Anyway, Nicias does not have a bladder or urinary infection (YAY!!!) he's clear and can go; he just bit himself causing him to hurt a little. There is a little pus here and there, but as long as we wipe him clean couple times a day and keep him on Baytril he'll be fine. We hope...

On a good note, the vet examined his neuter site and he's perfect! He's healed up quite nicely and has a nice little line instead of a gaping hole. Makes sense since he's been in an e-collar this whole time.

Well all in all, the collar won't be coming off. Nicias and I were both hoping to take it off tonight.

He's been eating a lot of yogurt, some fruit here and there and loves to drink gatorade from a dropper. Hopefully he'll be feeling better very very soon.

I'm glad to hear he's healing up! As long as he didn't take too big a bite out his hind quarters, it shouldn't be too long before he gets to take the collar off!

There was no pus at all yesterday. Hooray

Still no puss, but he's still hissing here and there when he pees.

But he's still looking better. His cloaca looked close to normal yesterday. Just a tiny scab and a little swelling but most of the swelling and color has gone away.

Which is good

And he got a new E-Collar because the old one was grungy even though we constantly cleaned it.

Ashley and Dani are taking Nici into the E vet. Our vet is out of town and Nici is hissing and refusing liquids apparently now...not sure of any further details, I only spoke with Dani very briefly online before she left to go to Ashley's.

I am hoping everything is ok. He is her first glider and she adores him beyond belief. He was pretty neglected before she got him and he is the sweetest little guy. Very needy. She is going through a lot right now trying to get him well again and out of that collar...and this is a step in the wrong direction, and not by her choice. Nici has had a hard time with this neuter.

I will update when I get more info...unless one of them get on here first, but they are supposed to call me when they know more...send your prayers their way...he is a strong boy...and I hope he is ok. Hoping to bring better news next update.

This is basically the extension to my first actual topic/post. Nicias was looking pretty good until I got home tonight around 5:00 PM. I had been out for only 45 minutes to an hour, and Nicias was looking just fine previously to me leaving him. He was hydrated and had eaten, was climbing and bouncing around like the mad little guy that he is. He was actually urinating regularly mind the hissing. So, got back home and found him in a corner of his kennel that I had him in, he was hissing with varying pitches; not accepting liquids or food and definetly not urinating. I had picked him up and found that his cloaca was swollen once again.

Well, after calling an emergency after hours line for the vet that I had previously taken Nicias to, I finally got a response which proved to be of now help what-so-ever. The guy sat with me on the phone for just about 15 minutes telling me that the doctor was out of state and had not given him any type of communication/numbers to contact him by.
Well, called another after hour vet and was told to bring Nicias in after explaining the situation. After sitting there for a nice long while; Dani and I were told that he needs to be kept over night, given a couple more tests to see whats going on, because as far as they know his swelling his causing the build up in his bladder; therefor he can not release it. Anyway, they also want to try to put in another catheter and give some cortisone to help bring down his swelling.
So tomorrow we get to go back and get him, and if not tomorrow then Monday EARLY morning at 7:15 AM. So then we'll get another overview of what is going on if there is anymore. They had expressed the fact that he may have blockage or stones/crystals of some sort.

I don't believe I'm leaving anything out, but right now bear with me. My last 24 hours have not been the best, and I hope to god Nicias is going to make it through all of this and live a nice long healthy glider life without anymore troubles.
If anyone has any helpful suggestions or anything at all please let me know.

Well sending prayers for your little one hope he gets better and they actually figure out whats wrong with him and take care of it.

Thank you, I certainly do too. Especially after the nice debt he's putting me in at the moment.

I can't wait til you bring him home and he is safe and sound! It is nothing you did or did not do Ashley...all you did was love him and in his best interest get him neutered so he could get a friend after being lonely all his life.

Hope he comes home well soon!

the tests that need to be run is a urine culture and sensitivity a fecal float gram stain and fecal culture and urinalysis and that will cover everything from parasitic to bacterial infection in his body, do this before meds. baytril will work best for most bacterial infections. the c and s will tell you the correct med for the problem. but this need to be done before putting the glider on meds so it shows up. hissing is usually a uti and that shows crystals and baytril is usually reccommended to treat uti infections.

He was already on Baytril. Quick urinalysis showed nothing...so C&S will be the way to go at this point.

and prayers he gets better real soon! Did you bring him to the Animal Emergency Clinic in St. Paul?

Thank you Brenda! Yes I ended up bringing him to the clinic in St. Paul. I heard that was where you brought one of your's too? Did Dr. Bush deal with your glider as well?

Yeah, Dr. Bush saved Lan's life after his post-neuter SMing in July! I really like Dr. Bush. Nicias is in good hands.

I'm really glad to read/hear. Especially after the craziness that I most recently dealt with over the phone.

So I called in when I woke up this *ahem* afternoon to find out if I could take Nicias home tonight or not. Well, ended up being swapped off by doctors or staff members over the phone trying to get my questions, of what was the latest, answered. This female doctor that I had not talked to at all the night before started rambling about surgery and some procedures that they'll be doing to try to better Nicias and the doctor will inform me of what was the latest later.

Well, I ended up voicing my concern and about the "surgery" that no one had contacted me about or asked for my decesion on. I was briefed on what this surgery would've been, which has bothered me a bit. Basically, they would've taken Nicias's bladder and stappled it to his stomach if he wasn't passing urine; which he is! Yay! But he needs to stay overnight to be monitered once again. Booooo. So I'll be kept posted on how things are going.

YAY!!! Nici is peeing!!!

Sorry your baby is going to be away again...right now it is the best place for him...even thought it is an EXPENSIVE place for him. You know we will figure out something to help you Ashley...something.

You and Dani will have to come over again for drinks, food, movies and guitar hero again...we will help keep your head on straight!

Here's the "alternate" e-collar that someone was trying to show you earlier...

http://s191.photobucket.com/albums/z164/...Together052.jpg

I stumbled on this by accident when Willy Wonka kept kicking off a traditional e-collar. It's made of Nich bandage (available at the vet's office) and breathable clear medical tape. You get a length of Nich that's twice as long as your glider's neck to shoulders...then just keep adding clear medical tape until they can't reach themselves.

It's a LOT more comfortable on the suggie, and there's no need for "special" feeding or sleeping set-ups. The only drawback is that you'd want to take it off every other day to make sure there's nothing bad happening underneath.

Ley, my heart goes out to you! You've had more than your share of trouble with something that was supposed to have been so simple as a neutering. I was there with Willy Wonka, too...so I know your emotional roller coaster.

Thanks Gwen, thanks everyone for your support!

So Dani and I just brought Nici home, and he isn't wearing a collar. Yay! The vet told me he had been observed all day without a collar on to see how he would act and they had no problems. So tonight I'm keeping the collar off unless he starts acting up again (let's hope not).
Tomorrow I'll be calling the New Brighton vet to follow up with Dr. Hedges on Nicias seeing that the emergency vet faxed his paperwork over there. This will be interesting considering that I was told that Dr. Hedges is out of town for a week.
We were told that supposedly someone there should also be able to help us with Nici and then we'll possibly be purchasing meds. Until then, no meds and a lot of worrying with the little noises that he'll be making.

P.S; We're going to feed him solid foods tonight! Yay!

YAY NICI! It will be nice to see you without that ratty collar. Poor little buddy...even though I know you hate me...I am always the bringer of bad things to you...holding you down after the neuter...holdong you down to put on that collar, holding you down yet again to put on that collar. Hopefully you will see tonight that I love you little guy and that I was never trying to hurt you...lol.

Anyways...Ashley wins new mommy of the year award! Barely had this guy half a month and still sticking though all the hardships with her little man like a trooper. You keep it up girl! For a first time ever suggie mommy you are doing GREAT given your circumstances.

And now Nici...you keep your fuzzy little butt out of trouble tonight! No more worrying your momma!

Keep up the awesome work you guys! Nicias, please let yourself heal up!

So Nicias is at home, collar-less, and on a higher dosage of Baytril. Hopefully that will take care of it.

So far he's been pretty good about things but he still hisses a lot but he is getting urine out at least. He's gotten a bit thinner and went from being a happy boy all the time to depressed and skiddish, but I think he's just shaken from the E vet.

And let's just say... that after all this... I hate CareCredit. So much. Jerking us around in Nicias' time of need. They are going to be getting some unhappy phone calls in the next few days...