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Re: Fawkes Has Lymphoma - Part 3 [Re: Srlb] #626408
09/01/08 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted By: Srlb
Have you tried to sprinkle his veggies with HP Wombaroo powder by chance?


No - Since I just barely got him eating again, I don't want to alter the taste of his food and turn him off of it.

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So I am taking this to mean there has been no ill side effects from this treatment right? That has to be a good sign.


There were no side effects from the Elspar that I could see - obviously I couldn't ask him if he felt tired or sick, etc. But he didn't appear to be negatively affected. The prednisone gives him a cough that goes away within 10 seconds of swallowing. I believe this has something to do with the sensation it makes on his throat, but will be talking to Dr. Kate about it to make sure. The good side effects of the treatment - increased appetite and energy!

Originally Posted By: Srlb
If you were to do another treatment, when did you say you would have to do it?


3 - 4 weeks from the first dose, so somewhere between 18-25th of September.

I thought about the measuring, but a lot of it is flat. The way I try to explain it is that the tumor is like a fried egg. The large lump that I noticed first is like the yolk, but then it spreads out flat all around the area in sort of a haphazard way. Then he has the smaller roundish tumor under his arm, which has the same "egg" effect. I would almost have to figure out a way to safely trace the tumor on his fur. And I'm not so sure I could "Sharpie" my boy without TOTally coloring outside the lines, so to speak...

Re: Fawkes Has Lymphoma - Part 3 [Re: LSardou] #626413
09/01/08 08:44 PM
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Gina, It looks exactly the same as the tumors that we treated at the UofA..... The Melanoma in Medical terms is referred to as the PS1273 - we had several Dermatologists that used the same magnets that I gave you. After 6 weeks of exposure the tumors necrosed and deterioated.

I think that things were starting to work with the therapy (magnets). smile

If you haven't received the therapy wheel, go ahead and put his magnets back in his sleeping pouch but don't do the rotation just yet.

I am anxious to hear what the Vet says when she sees this.


Fantastic! I'll get the magnets back in his pouch tonight. I don't have the wheel yet, Bourbon was looking for a box to ship it out in, so hopefully she found one this weekend.

I thought this was weird the way it just kept growing & growing. I'm going to email Dr. Kate pics tonight & call her in the am...

Re: Fawkes Has Lymphoma - Part 3 [Re: sugarlope] #626414
09/01/08 08:45 PM
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Your both still in my thoughts. I'm so glad to hear hes eating (Something is better then nothing!). He liked ensure..Have you tried different flavors? Maybe he'd like another flavor. (I can imagine your kitchen right now...Like 20 different half used jars of stuff since hes being picky, lol!) I hope he eats more! Is he drinking any, and, have you tried crickets? I know they arnt very good..But he might enjoy chasing them since hes being so energetic recently. Your such a great suggie mommy, he's so lucky!

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Re: Fawkes Has Lymphoma - Part 3 [Re: ] #626419
09/01/08 08:47 PM
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Celeste - it's funny you mentioned the drinking, because that's one thing I did notice with this new treatment (Elspar/Prednisone), he is SO thirsty. He is always drinking water. I'm sure part of it has to do with his increased activity, but I bet that is a side effect of one of the drugs...

Re: Fawkes Has Lymphoma - Part 3 [Re: ] #626438
09/01/08 08:58 PM
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Well, drinking lots is better then being dehydrated! Maybe put some juice in it for a little treat for him? And I saw he had a problem pooping now. Pumpkin juice is recommended, but I'm not entirely sure how much. I think 2 tbspoons, but don't hold me to that! I bet its nice to see him running around again though! ^^. Best of luck with him..I'm still lurking! grin hug2

Re: Fawkes Has Lymphoma - Part 3 [Re: ] #626453
09/01/08 09:13 PM
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Thank you for the update Gina! I get very worried if I don't see you write something...within a few hours. LOL

Prayers being said for Fawkes and you too. You need lots of strength yourself right now. HUGS


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My precious loves that left to quickly, Peanut, Katie
Isabella, Kiwi, Bonnie and Monroe.

Spread your wings and glide free of pain,
Until the day I see you again.

God speed my precious angels. I love you. Mama.
Re: Fawkes Has Lymphoma - Part 3 [Re: SugarBlossoms] #626500
09/01/08 10:20 PM
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I've been following this thread for awhile. I'm glad that he's started eating a bit again! When I was on pred a few months ago, I gained a ton of weight because I couldn't control my hunger. I was hungry all of the time...even 1 hour after eating a big meal. So hopefully some of that effect will happen to Fawkes (I say "some" because hopefully he won't gain 40 pounds like I did..haha!).

Good luck with the treatments. hug2 You both will be in my thoughts and prayers!

Re: Fawkes Has Lymphoma - Part 3 [Re: ] #626658
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Gina, From the picture, I can tell that it's definitely not a scab (as you've noted) because there is still fur on it. I agree with you & Linda that it appears to be necrosing. It will be interesting to hear what your vet has to say about it.
Still lurking here and still sending lots of hugs & prayers your way hug2 hug2 hug2

off_topic P.S. Did you ever get the toys?


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Re: Fawkes Has Lymphoma - Part 3 [Re: sugarglidersuz] #626688
09/02/08 08:41 AM
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Gina, our concept of 'glider food' is a bit warped, really. Most of it is already people food in disguise. What is the difference between baby food meat and meat boiled whole? Water and a blender. But my gliders will go crazy for baked turkey or roast beef in a crock pot cooked without seasonings-and it's probably better for them than the post processing of babyfood.

When Gim was critical he went on a "whatever he would eat' diet for months. He should have died then (he actually did, in fact, and was brought back with CPR), but we had him another two years even with that failing liver. Both he and Chronos amazed every vet that met them.

Here are some foods that might tempt Fawkes's appetite, provide some variety, and most important-none of it will hurt him. (Well, it wouldn't be great for him as a lifelong thing, but temporarily is all right) Some of it has some sugars (so do the foods we use as part of approved diets, if you get down to chemistry-glucose, fructose, etc)-not a lot of refined white sugar though, and possibly a small amount of salt-which won't hurt if not overdone.

Blueberry muffin
banana bread or muffin
If you have a Mimi's cafe, the honey soaked bran muffins were a hit here
Quaker granola (honey and nut kind)-softened or not
ice cream or sorbet (no chocolate), milkshake or whipped cream, melted-don't overdo tho.
cheese
macaroni and cheese (people kind-not too much)
Creamed corn
plain cooked spaghetti noodles
baked (in bag works well and keeps it tender) or crock pot cooked chicken, turkey, beef
mashed potatoes-cooked according to people directions
au gratin potatoes
warmed canned veggies (peas, corn, green beans, sweet potatoes, asparagus, white potatoes, chick peas, whatever)-you can try even a tiny bit of butter to get him interested
bread/rolls (not too much, they're usually enriched with iron)
make a chicken dumplings & veggies for dinner and pull some for him

If the components are okay for him-give them a try. You don't want huge amounts of salt and the same spices are still a no-onion, garlic, etc-but there are a lot of things you can try that will help round out the nutrition he's getting at least if you can find things he likes. The salt and fat content of his diet will go up a bit, but not too much if you're careful. Gim basically ate what we did as long as it wasn't harmful, and I was exremely careful about adding salt or butter, but it was in his mashed potatoes just as the recipe said to make it-he ate it when he would eat nothing else-I can't remember everything but everything above he had, and then some.

If you haven't tried Boost as an alternate to the Ensure, it might be worth a try.

Once Gim's health started coming back we got him back on more proper 'glider food' again (though he'd still get some of his favorite people foods as treats now and then), but had we refused to try, he wouldn't have made it-he wouldn't eat and trying to force it down stressed him into bringing it back up every time.

And Riker's tried french fries a few times-they're one of his favorite rare treats. He also loves green bell pepper off a pizza. Shhh.

I take prednisone tapers (corticosteroids) 3 or 4 times a year when my neck/back get inflamed too bad-the thirst is normal. It will have to be tapered off gradually if he is ever okayed to come off of it.

The one thing I haven't seen mentioned in relation to the steroids (although I might have missed it) is the increased chance of infections-including in wounds, or respiratory, from it's use. Watch for that, and start an antibiotic immediately if you think he might be getting an infection AT ALL-ask your vet for a recommendation, considering his other meds, for one to keep on hand in reserve for if it should be needed. Infections caused by steroid use can progress very quickly and become severe faster than normal, because of how steroids affect the immune system. Have a dose calculated so you know how much to give already if it's needed.

I've not been able to get on much, but I always read here first when I do. All our thoughts and prayers are with you guys! hug2


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Re: Fawkes Has Lymphoma - Part 3 [Re: Xfilefan] #626758
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K...stopped by the store after work to try and remember other things we fed when the glider wouldn't eat, and both SOME nutrition, and keeping food processing through the system was at issue. Here's some more things Gim and Chronos had:

popcorn
cheesecake (filling only)
banana cream pie
Scrambled eggs (made with milk) with cheese on it
flour tortilla
rice
pudding
graham crackers
fettuccini alfredo (with or without chicken)
pasta primavera with white sauce (no onions, etc)
pot pie
pancakes (plain)
cream of asparagus soup
chicken nuggets (fingers, strips)

Babyfoods:
Gerber Sweet Corn Casserole
Gerber sweet potatoes with glazed carrots (very sweet-in a tub with a purple lid)

Last edited by Xfilefan; 09/02/08 11:42 AM.

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Re: Fawkes Has Lymphoma - Part 3 [Re: Xfilefan] #626790
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