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My very first
#624744
08/30/08 02:05 PM
08/30/08 02:05 PM
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Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 16,800 St. Johns, Florida
Srlb
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This really sucks...I have never even had a sick glider and all of a sudden, here I am posting here... I lost Bug last night. She just turned two last month. She was always extremely petite and it really always bothered me. We Did a full blood panel and xrays either the end of May, beginning of June, I'll have to look. Every thing was fine. Perfectly normal. I voiced my concern about her size and Tim told me that I was just being paranoid because I wasnt used to small gliders. She ate like there was no tomorrow, her and Snuggle NEVER had any issues over food, and she was always the first one up to eat. Shawna was at my home a couple weeks ago, and I told her then I was concerned about Bug, she was just so small and frail looking. I didnt allow her to breed anymore after Tret was born, because of my concern for her. She got avacado mixture nightly to try to put weight on her... I took her in for a necropsy today. It really is MUCH different standing there watching your own glider than someone elses. Not an easy thing to do, but I HAD to watch...I had to see what happened...what did I do or better yet, what did I not do...what didnt I catch?? All the normal questions that go through ones mind... Tim said this was the first necropsy he will have done on a glider that was fed HPW. He has done them on many many others, all on different diets so he was interested to see what would show. PERFECT liver, heart looked good, stomach was full, intestines were doing their job. He said it was the best looking glider he ever seen and has NO IDEA from looking at her what could have happened. We sent off lots of tissues and organs for a full blown histopath to see if it could have been a genetic thing, or something going on with the brain. Her death is a complete mystery. Even if I would have taken her back in, nothing at all would have shown up...I am thinking it had to be genetic possibly?? Anyone else have any ideas?
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Re: My very first
[Re: Srlb]
#624764
08/30/08 02:27 PM
08/30/08 02:27 PM
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Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 956 Homestead, FL
Adri
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I'm sooo sorry for your loss.... I'm sorry I have no other suggestions as to what may have taken her. Hopefully the pathology report will be able to shed some light.
Adri Mother of 2 Adrian, Sofie Slave to many glidin' gliders www.sugarsensation.comWithin the heart of every stray lies the singular desire to be loved.
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Re: My very first
[Re: Adri]
#624815
08/30/08 04:08 PM
08/30/08 04:08 PM
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Posts: 13,979 Wisconsin
Feather
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I am sorry for your loss, may your memories of little Bug comfort you in the days to come.
Deepest Sympathy,
Kimberley Feathers-Sweetie, Mister Peanut & Big Mack Fur-Guinan, Mr. Spock, T'Mir, Cho, Toothless, Maverick & Maharet T'Pol, Elizabeth & Curzon TY, TJ, Light Fury, Madison & T'Pring Forever in my heart, Gizmo, Tucker, Khayman and the rest of my babies over the
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Re: My very first
[Re: Feather]
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08/30/08 06:04 PM
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MagicMan
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Re: My very first
[Re: Srlb]
#624954
08/30/08 06:40 PM
08/30/08 06:40 PM
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Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 11,015 MA
pappy1264
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Peggy, I am so terribly sorry for your loss. I would think genetic, based on all that seen on necropsy. My prayers are with you tonight. Godspeed little one....
Timmy, Gidget(RIP), Bandit, Petey(RIP), Phoebe, Jake (RIP) Piper(RIP), Pru(RIP), Paige, Cole, Molly(RIP), Oliver, Wyatt, Roo(RIP), Romeo, Pennie, Mandy(RIP), Madison, Garth, Kikipoo, Stasia, Bella, Petunia(RIP), Helen, Sydney, Kizzy and Sweet Pea's mom, Mary
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Re: My very first
[Re: pappy1264]
#624969
08/30/08 07:01 PM
08/30/08 07:01 PM
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Posts: 21,060 Kansas
LSardou
Glideritis Anonymous
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Peggy, I'm so sorry about the loss of your little Bug. Sometimes we just will never understand or know the laws of nature. Bug was loved and blessed with a wonderful mommy. Godspeed sweet little one...
Did Dr. T check her heart tissue?
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Re: My very first
[Re: Srlb]
#625021
08/30/08 07:57 PM
08/30/08 07:57 PM
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Posts: 21,060 Kansas
LSardou
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Peggy, I'm wondering if she had thrown a clot...since all the organs thus far are showing negative, it could be something to consider.
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Re: My very first
[Re: BeckiT]
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08/30/08 08:41 PM
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TaterTots
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I'm sorry.
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Re: My very first
[Re: BeckiT]
#625044
08/30/08 08:45 PM
08/30/08 08:45 PM
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Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,945 Miami, Fl
reeny
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OMG! Peggy I feel so badly for you! I will keep you and Bug in my thoughts.
Reeny & "The Flower Patch Gang" Blossom & Buttercup Bella & Bug Mona & Poppy Hannah & Lucas Petunia & Payton Petals Fiona & Fiorello Lili & Tulip & Krinkles www.moonovermiamigliders.com
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Re: My very first
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08/31/08 12:31 AM
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PixTrix
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Peggy, I am very sorry to hear of Bug. I, too, lost a glider a little while ago. I took his body to the vet and the vet could not find anything wrong with him, other than the fact that he died. Hot Cocoa was fed HPW as well. His organs looked perfectly healthy and there wasn't anything peculiar about them. Many hugs are sent your way, Peggy! Jen
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Re: My very first
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08/31/08 02:22 AM
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akoehler
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Peggy...I am so sorry for your loss
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Re: My very first
[Re: sugarlope]
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08/31/08 04:23 PM
08/31/08 04:23 PM
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Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 5,916 Cornersville TN I'M HOME :)
cyndiekb
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Peggy I am so sorry about Bug. She sounds like Sprite did. Starving to death/eating like a piggy. I pray you will get something back in the lab reports. Not knowing just plain stinks. I'd like to tell you it will get better but I have not reached that point and hearing about Bug is a set back for me too. I hope you at least have Bug to put her to rest like she deserves to help bring closure. Unless you have been there you just can't know the pain. I am sorry you now know THAT pain. HUGS, Tears, love to you and to Bug.
cyndiekb I & miss you HALEY My runaways 4/04 Lilo, 5/04 Dash & Angel Sprite Says GO STEALTH!! at AtticWorx
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Re: My very first
[Re: Lynsie]
#626042
09/01/08 08:40 AM
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Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 7,297 Quincy, IL
glidrz5
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Peggy, I'm very sorry for your loss.
Chris Illusion, Malcom, Isabell, Annabelle, Zach, Isis, Aly & Indy AND Miss Emmy & Miss Chloe kitties My Angels: You are always in my heart. You've flown to the rainbow and wait there for me Someday I will join you together to be
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Re: My very first
[Re: Srlb]
#626459
09/01/08 09:23 PM
09/01/08 09:23 PM
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Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 3,204 Sedona, AZ
ozzi
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Oh Peggy that is so sad. I am so sorry to read of your loss of Bug.
My deepest sympathies....
Pat
Pat You have not lived until you have done something for someone who can never repay you.....Unknown Rest in Peace our little sweet friends that have crossed over the "Rainbow Bridge". I miss you Boo-Boo, Lucy, BJ, and Fivel
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Re: My very first
[Re: ozzi]
#626664
09/02/08 06:57 AM
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Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,788 Cleveland, Ohio
sugarglidersuz
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Peggy, I'm so very sorry It's so sad but true that losing a glider is incredibly difficult - especially when there are no concrete answers as to why Hopefully the pathology tests will come up with an answer for you. (I have a tiny glider, too - my little Luna. I always have worries in the back of my mind because she's so very tiny ) Again, I'm so very sorry about Bug
Suz Enyedy Carina & Coobah Allira & Gizmo Picasso, Trinity Joy & Luna DaisyMae; Darwin; Mareki; Mambo; Pika; Cricky; Reggie & Bobo, Pepe & Bittah Suz' Sugar Gliders
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Re: My very first
[Re: kthiessen]
#626814
09/02/08 01:10 PM
09/02/08 01:10 PM
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Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 8,899 Jacksonville, FL
Xfilefan
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Aw, hugs , Peggy. I don't have anything except did they rule out something like a broken neck/back from maybe a sudden fall? It's all I can think of that I didn't see mentioned.
Jen/Colin Commander Riker 12 16 02-10 04 12 you will be FOREVER missed Sinbad, Gabby, Baby, and Alley
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Re: My very first
[Re: Xfilefan]
#627179
09/02/08 11:13 PM
09/02/08 11:13 PM
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Posts: 6,254 Kansas
queenduck
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Jen, no trauma. She has been a tiny glider for the past few months, never was a big glider, but had lost some weight. That is why Peggy had her in several times for full blood work and all kinds of stuff, they never found anything wrong. And.. she ate and ate and ate, she ate well and everything came out well, she just didn't gain weight, even with extra fattening foods and such. But no trauma, just a slow decline, then all of a sudden it was rapid.
Alicia aka Queenduck, Bentley's Nana
We need role models who are going to break the mold ~ Carly Simon
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Re: My very first
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#627193
09/02/08 11:28 PM
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Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 11,583 Sycamore Illinois
Karin
Glideritis Anonymous
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Hey P...I forgot to send you one of these . Karin
Miss Lily and Bud Prada and Armani Tessa, Deuce and Cami Tira and Misu Deja and Vu Glider Daydreams
"Life is not about waiting for the storm to pass...It is about learning to dance in the rain!"
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Re: My very first
[Re: Karin]
#627335
09/03/08 02:17 AM
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Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 8,899 Jacksonville, FL
Xfilefan
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One other thing that occurred-Riker didn't eat hardly at all-but was a tub (hypothyroidism-or no activity)... However, on the other end of the scale would be hyperthyroidism-or constant eating and no gain, which could also stunt development/growth in a young glider one could think....? Would that be worth looking into? I've been told in gliders that the thyroid itself is about the size of a pinhead-extremely tiny, and too small to get an ultrasound of, though magnification of something like an MRI might be possible- however, a blood panel would do if it's feasible at this point. I'm not sure which they run for that one, or all of them, Riker and Mareki had the T4 panel. Just a thought-don't know if it would be at all possible from a necropsy standpoint, but it could explain the symptoms she had. Since the glider isn't needing it, though, it would also be possible to remove and look microscopically-but I have no idea if that would have any value or not-looking at it may have nothing to do with function.
Last edited by Xfilefan; 09/03/08 02:19 AM.
Jen/Colin Commander Riker 12 16 02-10 04 12 you will be FOREVER missed Sinbad, Gabby, Baby, and Alley
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Re: My very first
[Re: Srlb]
#627601
09/03/08 03:30 PM
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Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 8,899 Jacksonville, FL
Xfilefan
Serious Glideritis
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Serious Glideritis
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Blood work was done, not too long ago, and it all came back fine. That is why this is so frustrating. But what tests were done? We had to do the T4 panel specifically, no ohers-everything else came back normal on Riker, too-and barely enough blood was taken to run it. He was close to 170 grams when blood was drawn. It is not something run routinely in a panel.
Jen/Colin Commander Riker 12 16 02-10 04 12 you will be FOREVER missed Sinbad, Gabby, Baby, and Alley
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Re: My very first
[Re: Xfilefan]
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09/03/08 04:36 PM
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Brittney
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Sending best wishes. I'm so sorry for what you're going through. sounds like you were the best suggie mamma you couldn've been and then some! Hopefully you can get to the bottom of this.
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