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Nicodemus' unkown facial swelling #812270
07/27/09 01:38 AM
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First off I want to thank every one at the sgga who helped me through this - especially sugarglidersuz, with out your help i don't know what i would have done. Cora you too.

For those of you who weren't there or didn't know,one of my gliders that i had brought with me has as of right now the only thing I can say is an unknown facial swelling. He WAS examined by a vet (Dr Gimre)- here's what he recorded.

Age is thought to be 5 or 6 years old

Weight 84 grams

Symptoms:
Fur yellowed / stained
Matted, watery eyes
Droopy ears

Diagnosis:
Primary possibilities
1) sinusitis - inflammation of a sinus of the skull
2) molar infection
3) impaction
Secondary
possible Glaucoma

Prescription
Deoxacyclene

This was done at the hotel at midnight so there wasn't any specialized tests done. Pretty much an oral exam and a good look at his eyes.

As of now there hasn't been any change in how he is doing - he is still active and isn't dehydrated.

I have a question that i didn't think to ask anybody at the time.
It was recommended that i separate him from his mate so i can have a better idea of how much he is eating (due to the underweight). I have a cage right next to hers, but i wonder if it would be ok or possibly better to put them back together in a single cage in the morning?

I'm going to take him in to our regular vet asap.

I'll keep updating everyone and please keep us in your thoughts and prayers


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Re: Nicodemus' unkown facial swelling [Re: DavidW] #812271
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Originally Posted By: DavidW
I have a question that i didn't think to ask anybody at the time.
It was recommended that i separate him from his mate so i can have a better idea of how much he is eating (due to the underweight). I have a cage right next to hers, but i wonder if it would be ok or possibly better to put them back together in a single cage in the morning?


wave David, I'm so glad to see that you made it home safely!
Since you are monitoring the food intake only, I would say that it's alright to keep them together during the day time.

I will be keeping your little one in my prayers. Good Luck at the vets tomorrow. hug2

Re: Nicodemus' unkown facial swelling [Re: LSardou] #812278
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I am so sorry to hear this David! And I am so sorry I wasn't there for moral support, but it sounds like you had the best of the best there to help out! Keep us updated on Nicodemus!

Re: Nicodemus' unkown facial swelling [Re: ] #812645
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David - thank you for posting an update! I was just about to PM you. I would, personally, keep them separate for the night (or until he is healthy). BUT, I would let them have supervised playtime together.

Keep us updated and take care. hug2


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Re: Nicodemus' unkown facial swelling [Re: Mel2mdl] #812844
07/28/09 01:09 AM
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I have great news!

this morning when i checked everyone, Nicodemus was looking pretty good. The swelling is gone but his eyes were still watering, and slightly matted. I took him in to the vet and he was given another oral exam this time he was anesthetized and i was told no problems with his teeth, they also did an eye pressure test and that was normal as well. Dr. Jordan suspects bacterial conjunctivitis and prescribed antibiotic drops and said to continue with the oral Doxycycline. Hopefully i should start seeing improvement in 3 to 5 days.

I am going to keep him separate during the night until he gains 20 or so grams. I asked Dr. Jordan about keeping them separated for the night so i can more accurately monitor his eating and then putting them back together in the morning he said that should be ok.

once again thanks to everyone who helped me out. I will keep updating until he is well.


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Re: Nicodemus' unkown facial swelling [Re: DavidW] #812917
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clap That is good news! I'm praying for a full recovery! Keep updating please.


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Re: Nicodemus' unkown facial swelling [Re: Mel2mdl] #813163
07/28/09 03:03 PM
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Suz is awesome!!!! will be looking for updates as well!!!!


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Re: Nicodemus' unkown facial swelling [Re: DavidW] #813179
07/28/09 03:27 PM
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Hey David. I am glad you made it home safe and sound. It was great to meet you and thanks for the company at Bucca, that was awesome!!!
I am glad to hear your baby Nicodemus is doing better angel
"We" will keep sending out more prayers for him angel
It was great to meet you at the SGGA

Pat


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Re: Nicodemus' unkown facial swelling [Re: ozzi] #813233
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That's wonderful news David! I hope that things will heal up quickly for your little fella. Your a wonderful glider daddy! hug2

Re: Nicodemus' unkown facial swelling [Re: LSardou] #813324
07/28/09 08:01 PM
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His eyes are looking almost normal!! any the swelling is completely gone and hasn't returned.

as far as his diet I.m going to start a new thread for that.

Originally Posted By: ozzi
Hey David. I am glad you made it home safe and sound. It was great to meet you and thanks for the company at Bucca, that was awesome!!!
I am glad to hear your baby Nicodemus is doing better angel
"We" will keep sending out more prayers for him angel
It was great to meet you at the SGGA

Pat


Pat it was great meeting you too. I hope to see you again.

Originally Posted By: LSardou
That's wonderful news David! I hope that things will heal up quickly for your little fella. Your a wonderful glider daddy! hug2


I'm trying really hard to be. It makes me feel terrible that i hadn't been paying enough attention to notice his weight loss tho. He use to be a little on the heavy side.


:rbridge: Eva 10-5-2009 & Nicodemus 11-15-2009

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Re: Nicodemus' unkown facial swelling [Re: DavidW] #813351
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this could be some of the reason he had quit eating,maybe it was too painful for him. i'm also having a problem w/one of my girls not eating as well as she used to,but she checked out all ok,so i am still stumped.
talk @ ya L8R


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Re: Nicodemus' unkown facial swelling [Re: josefine] #813356
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well the swelling has been gone since Sunday after noon (I checked him at my first gas stop), hopefully he isn't in any pain. he seems to be very picky please see the diet thread what to do when he won't eat fruits or veggies?


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Re: Nicodemus' unkown facial swelling [Re: DavidW] #814054
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David,
Am so glad to hear that Nicodemus is doing better I will let doc know the final verdict. Was great meeting you and I look forward to seeing you and Nicodemus at next year SGGA.


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Re: Nicodemus' unkown facial swelling [Re: Dani4Hedgies] #814203
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David, We've been keeping up with each other in the PM, but I thought I'd better post here, too wink I'm so glad that Nicodemus is doing so much better already. Hopefully Dr. Jordan is right about it being conjunctivitis and the drops will take care of the infection. It certainly seems to be helping so far thumb Thanks for the continued updates hug2


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Re: Nicodemus' unkown facial swelling [Re: sugarglidersuz] #814314
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Hey David :O)
I was just checking in on Nicodemus and I see Suz's post. Thanks for the update Suz angel
Glad to hear Nicodemus is doing well angel

Pat


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Re: Nicodemus' unkown facial swelling [Re: ozzi] #814589
07/30/09 08:53 PM
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I just spent an hour searching for Nicodemus' medicine, my cats got up on my desk an knocked it off then they batted it under the couch.
Anyways I've got pictures.

first how he looked the day i got him.
http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq1/DavidW_sg/Nicodemus008.jpg
http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq1/DavidW_sg/Nicodemus007.jpg
http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq1/DavidW_sg/Nicodemus006.jpg

this is yesterday
http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq1/DavidW_sg/041.jpg

and today his eyes look really clear
http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq1/DavidW_sg/002-1.jpg
http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq1/DavidW_sg/001-1.jpg

I also noticed his ears are up again looks like we may be well on the road to recovery dance

Thank you everyone for your support thanks
I will keep updating.

Last edited by DavidW; 07/30/09 08:55 PM. Reason: spelling

:rbridge: Eva 10-5-2009 & Nicodemus 11-15-2009

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Re: Nicodemus' unkown facial swelling [Re: DavidW] #814615
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dance YEAH Nicodemus' looking good!!!! dance
I am so glad David. Thanks for the update thumb

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Re: Nicodemus' unkown facial swelling [Re: ozzi] #814698
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been wondering about your boy!!! Thanks for the update!


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Re: Nicodemus' unkown facial swelling [Re: Cora] #814702
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YAY! Way to take care of your baby David!

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That is great news David! I'm so happy for you and Nicodemus! Your doing a wonderful job with him. Thank you for the update, I had been wondering how he's been doing. And it sounds like he is in the perfect hands!

It was so nice to meet you at the SGGA and I cant wait to see you again next year!

Please keep us updated on how he does.


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Re: Nicodemus' unkown facial swelling [Re: Sherri] #814760
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I'll be there!! wouldn't miss it for the world...

next year I'm going to take everyone to the vet a week before we go, and going to set money a side for emergency vet care.I've learned form this last SGGA.


****I urge everyone to set a side money for emergency vet care if you are traveling with your suggies you never know what might happen, and after hours vet care is really EXPENSIVE!!!!*******


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Re: Nicodemus' unkown facial swelling [Re: DavidW] #814764
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he sure is a cute little guy take good care of him and spoil him

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Glad that your baby is doing better.


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Glad to hear he is doing better. That last picture of him really shows it.

Keep up the good work and keep loving on that little man.


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Hey Dave how's Nicodemus doing? I hope all is well angel
Pat


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Re: Nicodemus' unkown facial swelling [Re: ozzi] #815896
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I was thinking of him today also Pat!!! I guess great minds think alike! smile


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Dave is such a nice guy. I am glad we go to go to dinner together. I know he was very concerned at the SGGA about
Nicodemus. I hope he is all better now thumb
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He seems to be better but I'm still having trouble get him to eat. I'm still giving him the meds, I've still got 1 more week of them. His ears are not drooping any more and his eyes are clear. I'm going to pick up my scale to night so i can track his wieght.

Pat if you're going to the next sgga we can do it agian. Reguardless of the problems i had, i still enjoyed being there.


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Re: Nicodemus' unkown facial swelling [Re: DavidW] #816780
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Originally Posted By: DavidW
He seems to be better but I'm still having trouble get him to eat. I'm still giving him the meds, I've still got 1 more week of them. His ears are not drooping any more and his eyes are clear. I'm going to pick up my scale to night so i can track his wieght.

Pat if you're going to the next sgga we can do it agian. Reguardless of the problems i had, i still enjoyed being there.

I am glad he is doing better but hope he starts eating more.
If I do go next year we will have to do it (Bucca) again and I think we will be able to recruit some other people to join us as well.
Pat


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Re: Nicodemus' unkown facial swelling [Re: ozzi] #816786
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David,
I am so glad see that Nicodemus is doing so much better. I remember reading that some meds can put them off their food for awhile I think I saw some suggestions of other food that works when their gliders were on meds and weren't eating much. Hopefully someone can chime in what those foods were. We will continue to keep you and Nicodemus in ours pray that this trial passes soon for you and him.


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