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Re: Prayers for Marys(pappy1264) Pru
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OMGoodness!!! <--- Tears of joy!!! What wonderful news!!!! Keep being feisty and crabbing Pru!
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Re: Prayers for Marys(pappy1264) Pru
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03/04/10 03:05 PM
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Mary and I have been speaking about Pru's condition at length. She called me after the surgery today to let me know that there is no uterine tumor, which is what her vet had suspected. In actuality, the vet found that Pru has a condition called megacolon. This condition is known in cats, dogs and rats, but has never been found in sugar gliders before. Merck's vet Manual lists anal infections as a possible cause of megacolon. Some of you will remember that last year Pru had surgery for impacted anal glands. The question is whether the megacolon was present already at that point or not. There is no way we will ever know. Pru's vet has agreed to write up Pru's medical history through and including today's surgery with the results for TGI to distribute to other veterinarians that see gliders. Once I have the documentation in hand, I'll be dispersing it accordingly.
Mary & Pru, I am so glad the surgery went well today and that there is no cancer present
Suz Enyedy Carina & Coobah Allira & Gizmo Picasso, Trinity Joy & Luna DaisyMae; Darwin; Mareki; Mambo; Pika; Cricky; Reggie & Bobo, Pepe & Bittah Suz' Sugar Gliders
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Re: Prayers for Marys(pappy1264) Pru
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03/04/10 03:46 PM
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Thank you for the update Suz.
Glad things went well today. Hugs to Mary and Pru.
Yet another learning curve.
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Re: Prayers for Marys(pappy1264) Pru
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Pru just POOPED all over herself!!!!!!! It's the first time she's "pooped" in over a month!!!! This is awesome!!!!!!!!
Keeper of Handprints on my Heart, You left your Footprints on my soul. My precious loves that left to quickly, Peanut, Katie Isabella, Kiwi, Bonnie and Monroe.
Spread your wings and glide free of pain, Until the day I see you again.
God speed my precious angels. I love you. Mama.
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Re: Prayers for Marys(pappy1264) Pru
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Pat You have not lived until you have done something for someone who can never repay you.....Unknown Rest in Peace our little sweet friends that have crossed over the "Rainbow Bridge". I miss you Boo-Boo, Lucy, BJ, and Fivel
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Re: Prayers for Marys(pappy1264) Pru
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Another case of everyone getting excited over POOP! (only on a glider board!)
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Re: Prayers for Marys(pappy1264) Pru
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Another case of everyone getting excited over POOP! (only on a glider board!) Yep, yep, yep! Way to go, Pru!!!!
Connie 812-890-9734, 24/7 Emergencies/Joey issues SmallWorldSuggies"The greater the challenge, the sweeter the reward" "Glide free Silly "Ozball" Ozzie. You left us 11/21/12..way too soon. You're forever loved, remembered, missed."
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Re: Prayers for Marys(pappy1264) Pru
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Pru's liver and everything inside of her looks GREAT!! (organs) She is on antibiotic, pain meds and a type of stool softener. She does not have any stitches so that she won't get itchy or anything. The incision was made near her pouch. She is in a body collar like she had before without the donut (like my vet does) and cannot get to her surgery site but can still eat fine. For those that may not know, Pru is blind and is 9 years old. She also came from a bad situation where she was used as a breeder. Thank God she found her way to Mary!!
Keeper of Handprints on my Heart, You left your Footprints on my soul. My precious loves that left to quickly, Peanut, Katie Isabella, Kiwi, Bonnie and Monroe.
Spread your wings and glide free of pain, Until the day I see you again.
God speed my precious angels. I love you. Mama.
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Re: Prayers for Marys(pappy1264) Pru
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03/04/10 08:46 PM
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Ok, been a LONG TIME since I have been seen here but after today, I wanted to post. Thank you to EVERYONE for the good thoughts, prayers and words of encouragement. Pru has been amazing through all this and truly seems to be beyond explaination in how she has been through this and is still so strong. I don't know what tomorrow holds, but we are facing it together. Yes, she has megacolon. It can still be a death sentence, as it remains to be seen if we can manage it. One thing they did today was to put saline up inside her. This was for two reasons. One to make sure it was not a complete blockage (Pru has not pooped in over a month. All that has come out is very minute amounts of black liquid that would just smear, not even drip, the amound was so small. It was also very smelly.) Pru did have her anal glands removed last May, after an anal gland infection that caused her glands to abcess over. Five weeks on two meds (they were able to get a tiny bit out of one to do a c/s, so we know the meds were correct), the abcess did not heal and thus they had to be removed. My vet had never done it before, but spoke to Jens' vet and got pics from Erin (thank you both) that helped give her direction. Pru healed well from that surgery, but continued to 'huff'. We could not find a 'reason' and the strange thing is she would sometimes do it when not pottying (while eating, playing, etc). And btw, it is NOT the same sound I have heard my gliders make when they had UTI's. I now know the discomfort was from her insides were slowing down and things were backing up. This is still a very serious situation but she is holding her own. She is on antibiotics, pain meds, a stool softener and a gut motility drug to try to get things going again. It is also a possibility I will have to continue to do the 'saline thing' to keep things soft, we will see. She did poop today (never been so happy to have a smelly, poop covered animal in my life!) She is very tired tonight, keeping her on heat as she is having a little problem with regulating her temp (which we expected). Her incision is about an inch, and she is completely wrapped up. It is closed with glue, so there will be no 'itch' as it heals. She lapped little amounts of yogurt mixed with a tiny bit of pedialyte and took her meds. I go in and out to keep checking, but trying to let her rest, it was a LONG DAY TODAY for both of us! As Suz said, there will be a write on all this. One thing this has made me take a step back to at the very least ponder if all these gliders with anal gland issues and 'huffing' for no apparent reason may indeed have a cause that until this may not have even thought possible in gliders. It remains to be seen what this will mean in terms of helping other gliders. I will do whatever I can to get info out that may help others. Again, I want to say 'thank you' for your kindness. Life keeps me pretty busy and as usually the case in my life, it can never be 'normal'...lol I miss everyone here and think of you often. And when I meet people who are trying to learn, I always tell them the best place to go to learn.....here. I will keep you posted. I will be logging back out. Things have not changed as far as me needing to keep my babies 'safe and hidden'.
Timmy, Gidget(RIP), Bandit, Petey(RIP), Phoebe, Jake (RIP) Piper(RIP), Pru(RIP), Paige, Cole, Molly(RIP), Oliver, Wyatt, Roo(RIP), Romeo, Pennie, Mandy(RIP), Madison, Garth, Kikipoo, Stasia, Bella, Petunia(RIP), Helen, Sydney, Kizzy and Sweet Pea's mom, Mary
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Re: Prayers for Marys(pappy1264) Pru
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03/04/10 09:45 PM
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Night Pru and Mary I love you both and all of your babies. Pru has been through so much with you, she is a fighter, she got it from you and how much love you give her and your babies. Pru is loved, she knows it thanks to you and how well you take care of them all! MASSIVE MASSIVE for you and tons of glider kisses for Pru!
Keeper of Handprints on my Heart, You left your Footprints on my soul. My precious loves that left to quickly, Peanut, Katie Isabella, Kiwi, Bonnie and Monroe.
Spread your wings and glide free of pain, Until the day I see you again.
God speed my precious angels. I love you. Mama.
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Re: Prayers for Marys(pappy1264) Pru
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03/05/10 01:48 AM
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Mary, I can't begin to tell you how happy I am for Pru. I'm crying as I write this! What a wonderful person you are! You are my hero.
Not only did you save Pru's life, but you have created a path to help other gliders, should it come to something like this. That is such an amazing thing!
I will keep sending prayers for Pru and you and I wait anxiously every day, to see her progress to complete healing.
P.S. It was so good to see a post from you!
Connie 812-890-9734, 24/7 Emergencies/Joey issues SmallWorldSuggies"The greater the challenge, the sweeter the reward" "Glide free Silly "Ozball" Ozzie. You left us 11/21/12..way too soon. You're forever loved, remembered, missed."
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Re: Prayers for Marys(pappy1264) Pru
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Re: Prayers for Marys(pappy1264) Pru
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03/05/10 03:30 AM
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So happy to hear that all went well Mary. We all miss you around hear but we all understand totally .Hugs for you.
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Re: Prayers for Marys(pappy1264) Pru
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03/05/10 07:43 AM
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Mary, You know I was happy to be here for you and will continue to be Thanks for posting an update about Pru yourself. I know that had to be hard for you but it was important for everyone to hear your perspective on Pru's condition and the upcoming treatment & prognosis.
As you said, this may have opened a HUGE door to explaining the cause of so many gliders' anal issues. Only time will tell, but the crack you've created is HUGE!
I am going to move this over to Health & Hygiene since this is such a huge medical breakthrough!
Suz Enyedy Carina & Coobah Allira & Gizmo Picasso, Trinity Joy & Luna DaisyMae; Darwin; Mareki; Mambo; Pika; Cricky; Reggie & Bobo, Pepe & Bittah Suz' Sugar Gliders
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Re: Prayers for Marys(pappy1264) Pru
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03/05/10 11:18 AM
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Mary, I am so glad to hear that Pru made it through the surgery, messy as it was I laughed when I read that she pooped all over herself. I was away from the computer all day yesterday, Pat called me with the news that she was out of surgery and crabbing. Thanks Pat! Give Pru a kiss for me. I hope she continues to do well.
Kimberley Feathers-Sweetie, Mister Peanut & Big Mack Fur-Guinan, Mr. Spock, T'Mir, Cho, Toothless, Maverick & Maharet T'Pol, Elizabeth & Curzon TY, TJ, Light Fury, Madison & T'Pring Forever in my heart, Gizmo, Tucker, Khayman and the rest of my babies over the
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Glide Free, Pru
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03/05/10 03:12 PM
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I just got off the phone with Mary. Sadly, Pru passed away about a half an hour ago while Mary was holding her Mary wanted me to make sure to post that she does not regret the surgery yesterday. She still feels that she had to try to save Pru and without the surgery, death was imminent anyway. She will bring Pru to her vet for a necropsy in the morning and has already spoken to her vet since Pru passed over the Rainbow Bridge. It is Mary's hope that Pru's diagnosis of megacolon will open a window of opportunity in the glider world to help other gliders who may have the same condition heretofore undiagnosed.
Mary also asked me to tell everyone "Thank you" for all the support and love she has gotten during this ordeal.
Pru is now gliding free with Roo and the other gliders who have gone before...
Suz Enyedy Carina & Coobah Allira & Gizmo Picasso, Trinity Joy & Luna DaisyMae; Darwin; Mareki; Mambo; Pika; Cricky; Reggie & Bobo, Pepe & Bittah Suz' Sugar Gliders
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Re: Glide Free, Pru
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I am sorry to hear that Mary! big hugs Glide free little one
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Re: Glide Free, Pru
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I am so sorry, Mary.
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Re: Glide Free, Pru
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Oh No!!! I'm sooo sorry to hear this!! My husband and I were really rooting for Pru.... Glide far and free Pru!!
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Re: Glide Free, Pru
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Pat You have not lived until you have done something for someone who can never repay you.....Unknown Rest in Peace our little sweet friends that have crossed over the "Rainbow Bridge". I miss you Boo-Boo, Lucy, BJ, and Fivel
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Re: Glide Free, Pru
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Oh Mary I am so sorry to hear Pru did not make it You did everything you could for her. She lived a long happy life with you and I am sure she knew how much you loved her. Glide free sweet Pru! Please keep me posted on what you discover about her condition!
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Re: Glide Free, Pru
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Re: Glide Free, Pru
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Mary, I know our words cannot ease the pain in your heart, but may you find comfort in your memories of Pru. Glide Free Little Pru Glide Free
Kimberley Feathers-Sweetie, Mister Peanut & Big Mack Fur-Guinan, Mr. Spock, T'Mir, Cho, Toothless, Maverick & Maharet T'Pol, Elizabeth & Curzon TY, TJ, Light Fury, Madison & T'Pring Forever in my heart, Gizmo, Tucker, Khayman and the rest of my babies over the
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Re: Glide Free, Pru
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I'm so very sorry for the loss of Pru. Mary - I wish written words and virtual hugs could make it all better. Sending you tons of those virtual hugs. Glad Pru is at peace. You are so brave to consider other glider vets being educated by this.
Alden "Animals can communicate quite well. And they do. And generally speaking, they are ignored." Alice Walker
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Kyrie, nothing will ever fill the hole you left in my heart.
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Re: Glide Free, Pru
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I didn't know what to say at the moment I got the call, just knew something was wrong immediately. This is so heart wrenching, there just aren't any words that will take away the pain of losing a precious baby. Pru is precious, for whatever reason, God thought it better for her to be in heaven. God speed little Pru to be with friends Roo, Katie, Monroe, Peanut, Izzy, Kiwi, Lucy and Fivel along with all of the precious babies gliding free without pain catching all of the bugs, chattering and playing.
I love you Pru and miss you. ((((((((HUGS)))))))) to Mary and may sweet memories of Pru help you through the sadness.
Keeper of Handprints on my Heart, You left your Footprints on my soul. My precious loves that left to quickly, Peanut, Katie Isabella, Kiwi, Bonnie and Monroe.
Spread your wings and glide free of pain, Until the day I see you again.
God speed my precious angels. I love you. Mama.
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Re: Glide Free, Pru
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Mary, I'm so very sorry to hear about Pru. I know she appreciates all that you did for her and that she will be waiting for you across the bridge. Many (((((HUGS)))))
Chris Illusion, Malcom, Isabell, Annabelle, Zach, Isis, Aly & Indy AND Miss Emmy & Miss Chloe kitties My Angels: You are always in my heart. You've flown to the rainbow and wait there for me Someday I will join you together to be
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