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Re: Heating Pad [Re: ] #669217
11/06/08 06:51 PM
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Well I have taken the heating pad back to the store and will look into less dangerous methods of heat for my little girl tomorrow while I am out at Walmart.

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I dont know if it's been mentioned, but I cover my guys up with a blanket. Just a cheap blanket. Like the heated ones. Un heated though.
it really keeps the heat in.
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Re: Heating Pad [Re: chattrbabe] #669240
11/06/08 07:09 PM
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How long have you had your gliders? And how well does it keep the heat in?

Re: Heating Pad [Re: ] #669482
11/07/08 12:42 AM
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So thats what I've heard. But you don't always have to use them as pads! it might work as a small size heat generator. As long as it generates heat and make sure the glider won't be able to touch it. I think it'll be fine. You guys just don't like Pocket Pets, it's like a taboo here. Jeez. Sure they give out heating rocks probably because the gliders are too young. I'm not going to say any more on Pocket Pets. I don't really know anything about them except from what I've heard. ANYWAY I'm testing out the heating pad in a cage with thermometers and stuff this weekend...if I get the heating pads by then.

Re: Heating Pad [Re: ] #669484
11/07/08 12:44 AM
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people don't listen maybe because they "might" have a reason to or they some how figure a safe way out to use it. You never know how smart someone can be laugh

Re: Heating Pad [Re: ] #669486
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OOPS

my reply were meant for Daron (not all him/her but you get the idea), I didn't know there are 2 pages >.<

Re: Heating Pad [Re: ] #669526
11/07/08 02:04 AM
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90 degrees is really too hot for gliders.

A cool room of 70 degrees is just fine. Just put several large sqares of fleese into the sleeping pouch to hold the body heat of the glider.

Over the years, and I have owned gliders for over twelve years, a few times my glider room got down to 60. However, with double fleesed pouches and two large square fleese blankies and two gliders or more in a pouch.. everyone was just fine. Have to admit though, I was in a panic mode for a bit as my glider room is usually kept at 80 degrees all year round.

Re: Heating Pad [Re: Judie] #669715
11/07/08 12:37 PM
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If the house is warm enough to keep you comfortable then its warm enough to keep your gliders warm. Put an extra tiny blanket in there pouch & or cover the cage with a blanket. I found my rect from lowes, I paid $25 for my oil heater & it keeps my glider room at 73 degrees. They actually sell the same heater at Lowes for $15 that doesnt have the decorative plastic cover but still the same heating capabilites. Im an Insurance Agent, & I cant tell you houw many house fire claims my agency has paid over the last 12 years. To my knowledge none of them were being used for pets, but they were being used for humans in bed while they were sleeping(not uncommon). One was in the boonies & by the time the FD got there the family lost their entire home & all posessions and the homeowner has 2nd & 3rd degree burns(rare situation).

Re: Heating Pad [Re: ] #669726
11/07/08 01:06 PM
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It's not that we choose not to like them, it's the fact that they give out wrong information, sell joeys way too young, are mill breeders with sick, inbred gliders and only care about the $$$ they are making. People here care about thier pets and will give you the correct information to keep them happy, healthy & safe. If you don't want the truth, don't ask.


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Re: Heating Pad [Re: gliderma] #669777
11/07/08 02:36 PM
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Well put. Thank you.

Re: Heating Pad [Re: ] #669786
11/07/08 02:57 PM
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Just using a cage cover doesn't help with my kids since it gets down to around 60 in my room in the winter. frown

I have a heat emitter that I left on 24/7 last year because I didn't have a fleece cover and the blankets I was using didn't keep the heat in. roflmao Now though, I have a fleece cage cover over the top, sides, and front of my cage, 4 pieces of fleece on the top, and a comforter over the front, sides, and top. I only have to leave my emitter on for maybe 30minutes (gets the cage to around 78) then I turn it off and close 'er up! Fleece is an excellent insulator. heart But, so far, the coldest my room has gotten is 65 so we'll see for this winter...I also have a blanket over one of my windows because you can just feel the cold air coming off of it...brr! And this year, the cage is against an inside wall near my tv so I can get some heat off of my tv for them too. But, if you decide to use a heat emitter, make sure you put pouches in different areas of the cage. Ex: a pouch in a colder area and one in a warmer area.

Aido, I still think 90 is wayyyy too hott though once you factor in the fact that they're sleeping in fleece pouches. Initially, that would make it around 95 in the pouches...talk about a cooked sug. Anyone up for suggie pie? laugh (ya, I know most of the heat won't stay in the cage but it'll stay in the pouches since they're fleece and fleece is an insulator)

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Re: Heating Pad [Re: Kiiru] #669926
11/07/08 07:38 PM
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I never said that I support them ((PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets) and I never asked questions about them. I was just doing my research and people just happen to talk about them. I never saw them before, and never met them either. Oh and a friend of mine did tell me about people getting burned from heating pads. But I will test the heating pads that I'm getting before I use it in the cage. It's not like I didn't do my research or anything! Oh and if it wasn't for (PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets selling gliders at the fairs in different states, not much people would of known anything about gliders! Everyone who is selling gliders here are making money too! But they just happen to care more about the gliders that they are selling. Which is good! I'm not going to say anymore on (PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets, I don't know a lot about them and I DON'T plan on getting anything from them.

AND what if I support using heating pad/rocks? [censored] is wrong about that? You don't really have to use it like it's suppose to! The main reason why I use it is because it's "small" and it generates "heat"! and ok fine 90 degrees would be too hot, I'll fix it so the temp of the cage would be around 80s. And I do worry about my glider's safety and health. ONE of the top reasons why I will test everything out.

Re: Heating Pad [Re: ] #669940
11/07/08 07:55 PM
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"Oh and if it wasn't for (PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets selling gliders at the fairs in different states, not much people would of known anything about gliders! Everyone who is selling gliders here are making money too! But they just happen to care more about the gliders that they are selling."

People that buy gliders from fairs still don't know anything about them! And most of the people here that sell gliders, only do so to knowledgeable homes and yes they charge for them-it costs money to take care of them properly.
As far as the heat rock & heating pad, it seems you have already made up your mind to use them, so why even ask? They are not safe, not necessary and not recommended. That should be enough. We don't make things up to give people a hard time. Most people here are very experienced and know what they are talking about. I learn more all the time!


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Re: Heating Pad [Re: ] #669947
11/07/08 08:12 PM
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Aido A heatpad is not for the use in which you want to use it.

I do not even live in the same country as (PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets and I don't sell my gliders or even any glider products so I have no vested interest in this like you seem to think everyone has.

I do however proudly volunteer with a well respected Australian wildlife rescue and rehabiliation organization. I also have just completed a University course on the above as well as attending numerous short courses and training days with top Australian wildlife vets and experts on all facets of wildlife care and health management. I have been very lucky to be able to do all this and it has enabled me to learn so much more about sugar gliders as well as other native Australian animals.

Bottom line that comes out of all these, is heatpads DO have their uses with experienced care and constant observation for only orphaned or very ill animals who cannot regulate their own temperature correctly. Even with these animals, the temperature range must be monitored all the time and concerns of overheating, dehydration etc are very real. They should not be used to keep a healthy animal warm. Not only can an electrical item be dangerous, creating an artificial heat source so close to an animal that doesn't normally require one, can possibly cause health issues in the long term.

If you have more than one glider, nice thick fleece pouches or blankets, a cover to prevent draughts and perhaps a room controlled heater is all that is needed. They have an ability when in a group of two or more, to generate an amazing amount of heat in a pouch or nestbox. Gliders can acclimatise well to temperatures providing it isn't extreme changes and that they have companions to warm up with.

Most of my gliders live outside. They live in wooden nestboxes in aviaries which are fairly well weatherproofed but still outside. In Winter, they get fleece blankets with their euc leaf bedding but in Summer it's just leaves. The heat that generates out of a nestbox on a Winter morning is outstanding! I can promise you it gets way colder than any inside room. I have few concerns at all with the cold and my gliders. Summer and overheating are more of an issue.

Re: Heating Pad [Re: gliderma] #669977
11/07/08 08:51 PM
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I not saying the people know a lot about gliders. I'm saying that they wouldn't have known that gliders exist as pets if it wasn't for (PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets (some people anyway)

And yes I had already made up my mind. But I never asked anything about heating pads. Since I'll be using one I like to read more about them. People are saying they are not safe to use in the cage with the gliders. I AGREE! The glider "might" get burned. But like I said they generates heats and they are small so it probably is safe and sometimes necessary to use outside of cage.

Re: Heating Pad [Re: ] #669983
11/07/08 08:54 PM
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Oh Marz. Since your gliders are outside in a wooden nest, how cold does it gets outside?

Re: Heating Pad [Re: ] #669989
11/07/08 09:00 PM
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like how cold in the winter can outside of wooden nest get. And how warm is the inside in that cold?

Re: Heating Pad [Re: ] #670504
11/08/08 08:15 PM
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A little information about heating pads.. while I don't advise using them, for those concerned about uncontrolled temperatures (especially in incubatord) owning a rheostat can be a great measure of regulating the heat emitted. It works by setting a maximum temp that the heat pad will emit and not allowing it to go above that. ZooMed sells them:
http://www.zoomed.com/db/products/EntryD...SI7czoxOiIwIjt9


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Re: Heating Pad [Re: ] #670538
11/08/08 09:37 PM
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my glider room stays btween 72 and 78. I use a safe space heater like Becki..................in fact Im thinking we have the same one.................anywho I just skimmed through this but noticed some folks were keeping their gliders a little on the warm side!! Good Luck!!


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Re: Heating Pad [Re: Cora] #670565
11/08/08 10:42 PM
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our power was off the other day (they had shut it off for like 30 minutes in our whole area to repair a damaged line). I wasn't home at the time and didn't think anything of it until I went to feed the gliders a few hours later - the heater wasn't on. But, the gliders were up early, playing hard, a lot harder than they normally do. So, I turned the power back on for the heater and the room was 66*. Seeing how happy they were out playing at that temp, I set the heater to 68* instead of the 76* where it had been, and just offered extra blankies if they want them. It's nice having 2+ extra hours of play time each night smile

Re: Heating Pad [Re: BeckiT] #670806
11/09/08 10:27 AM
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Becki I have also found that keeping the room around 70 degree's seems to make the gliders come out and play more. I have kept my glider room around this temp for well over a yr now and if the temp should get up 72-74 they sleep more.
One of the key factors is to change temp gradually so they can acclimate to it. Sudden temp change does not let them adjust well. I heat my house by wood pellet stoves one up stairs and one downstairs my entire house is set at 68-70 degree's. I keep a small space heater in the gldier room set at 70 degree's just in case it gets cold in their room.

I would say if you use a heat rock or a heating pad you are asking for trouble. If you have never seen an animal that had bitten an electrical cord before you have no idea what they go though and what the consequence's are. It is not pretty and it almost always has a death sentence to it. I have seen it (not any of my pets as I know better). Also if they lay on a heating pad that is too hot it burns the skin and it becomes necrotic and sloughs off leaving no way to to stitch it closed and it is very painful. It has to slowly regrow skin to fill in the area IF the animal survives.

As for Pocket Pets/heat Rocks/and anything else they have to offer = If you saw them and the poor gliders they are selling you would have things to say about them also.
If you research on here and read about the people who have no idea what they offer and the heart break they went though with sick dying gliders you would understand.

Aidolove I must ask you do you whom do you use for an exotic vet and are they available 24 hours a day?


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